Re: [kde] Constant Konqueror icon
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 09:25, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: OK, the followup. Once I point it out, you'll very likely be saying to yourself Of course! *NOW* it's obvious! =:^) FWIW I know this works as I've disabled the hotspot here. I have two monitors and a trackball set to 13/5 accel to cover it in a single stroke if I want to, and thus rely on the edges and corners to stop me, so they can't be triggering things or I get frustrated! So I use the hotkey trigger only, no edge or corner triggers at all (save for a very small auto-hide panel at the bottom left, containing just two menu icon plasmoids, kickoff, and classic set to bookmarks-only). OK, to configure hotspots, both edges and corners, kde settings, workspace appearance and behavior, workspace behavior, screen edges. Click on a corner or edge button in the screen representation, and set your choice, top left button, no action, in this case. =:^) I agree: the Workspace Behaviour bit should have jumped out at me. It didn't. I /told/ you you'd be saying Screen edges! Of course! *NOW* it's obvious! =:^) FWIW2, pretty much all my kwin-related hotkeys are winkey-something combos. In this case, it's win-g, for desktop grid. WAY easier to remember win-g for desktop/window grid, than whatever the default is, for sure! So it's easy enough to activate, but unlike the hotcorner, /this/ trigger only activates when I want it to, not accidentally, when I'm trying to fiddle with something in the systray, which I have configured to an always-visible panel in the top-left corner. Yes, I also prefer my DE shortcuts to be on the Tux key. With the obvious exception of the System clipboard being Ctrl-XCV. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Constant Konqueror icon
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 05:56, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: I don't believe I've ever seen or read about such an option, so your mention is news to me. =:^/ Oh. I might be confusing it with something else then. Maybe Zim. Not that I'd be likely to use it anyway. But I guess you have a user for whom the changing icon is confusing? That user is me! I just converted to Konqueror from Dolphin but the changing icon means that I can never find Konqueror on the taskbar. My taskbar shows only icons, no text. You're talking about the application menu icon, in the titlebar, right? That'd ultimately be up to the window manager to set/enforce. I am referring to the taskbar icon. I do not recall having ever seen an icon in the titlebar. FWIW, there's the --icon general-kde command-line option, but I believe that sets the original icon, the app can still change it, as konqueror does. Not that I've really used it to know, however, so you might /try/ it. Thanks. Launching Konqueror as konqueror --icon someIcon.png has no effect, but in Okular the effect is to show a blank taskbar icon instead of Okular's regular icon. It still does not show the designated icon. I'll play around a bit, maybe it doesn't like pngs. There's also the various window decorations (under workspace appearance and behavior, workspace appearance). Some of those appear not to even have an app/menu button in the titlebar, and as most titlebar buttons, the app/menu button can be removed or placed elsewhere via button customization for at least most of the others. It's possible some decorations might have one, but (optionally?) not allow it to be changed after it's first set. Thanks. I'll look around for similar taskbar options. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Constant Konqueror icon
Dotan Cohen posted on Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:00:34 +0300 as excerpted: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 05:56, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: I don't believe I've ever seen or read about such an option, so your mention is news to me. =:^/ Not that I'd be likely to use it anyway. That user is me! I just converted to Konqueror from Dolphin but the changing icon means that I can never find Konqueror on the taskbar. My taskbar shows only icons, no text. You're talking about the application menu icon, in the titlebar, right? That'd ultimately be up to the window manager to set/enforce. I am referring to the taskbar icon. I do not recall having ever seen an icon in the titlebar. OK, that explains quite a bit, since one of the first things I did while customizing kde4 was kill the task-manager/bar plasmoid (called manager instead of bar in plasmoid-explorer, I suppose to eliminate the ambiguity between what's normally the panel containing the plasmoid, and the plasmoid itself). I've not used a task-manager widget since probably kde 3.2 era, more or less. Instead, I use alt-tab primarily, with a task-list popup menu on the desktop and (with kde4) the desktop grid (now with integrated expose! =:^) as alternatives. Since I've not used the taskman for so long (well back into kde3), I tend to forget about it even existing, unless someone mentions it specifically. So the thought of it didn't even cross my mind in my original reply, since you hadn't mentioned it specifically. The closest I could get was the app-menu icon in the titlebar (which it seems you don't use, isn't kde's customization wonderful? =:^). That would explain my not recognizing the option, since I normally ignore pretty much anything specifically taskman related, and makes the not likely to use comment even *MORE* true, since I don't use the taskman AT ALL. No WONDER we seemed to be talking past each other! =:^\ Thanks. I'll look around for similar taskbar options. Obviously, most of my suggestions didn't apply to the taskman since it's not what I had in mind at all, but perhaps there's similar options for it, somewhere. All the above said, now that I know you're talking about taskman, I *DO* dimly remember reading about various options related to it in, for instance, the various kde4 release announcements and covered in the various reviews I've read, plus the limited exposure I get to it when bisecting a settings-related bug, thus having most of my settings reset to defaults, temporarily. (I really hate that for two reasons. First, I can barely tolerate the default color-scheme, which comes close to making me physically sick. Second, all my carefully configured keyboard shortcuts disappear, and the lost productivity is like I'm trying to remote-control a mars rover or something. I'm always /very/ relieved when those bits of the config get restored in the normal bisect process, and I'm not both attempting to kill the gag reflex at the color and having to work with the ugliness even longer than normal because it's taking me longer to get anywhere without my keyboard shortcuts!) I'm /guessing/ that the option you're referring to might be related to grouping, since if all the konqueror task icons are grouped into one in taskman, that one icon can hardly show the individual icons for all of what might be fifty different konqueror windows, so in that case using the app icon would make the most sense. Given that, it may be that there's an option to use it when there's only one app window open, too. Of course that's all dim memory and supposition, since I don't use taskman in normal usage, but I /think/ that's more or less how at least one of the task grouping options works, in general. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Constant Konqueror icon
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 15:36, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Second, all my carefully configured keyboard shortcuts disappear, and the lost productivity is like I'm trying to remote-control a mars rover or something. http://marsandme.blogspot.com/ I'm /guessing/ that the option you're referring to might be related to grouping, since if all the konqueror task icons are grouped into one in taskman, that one icon can hardly show the individual icons for all of what might be fifty different konqueror windows, so in that case using the app icon would make the most sense. Given that, it may be that there's an option to use it when there's only one app window open, too. Of course that's all dim memory and supposition, since I don't use taskman in normal usage, but I /think/ that's more or less how at least one of the task grouping options works, in general. No, I hate grouping. Even though I'm no mousemaid, I like to see what applications I have open in the taskbar. I just tried the Present Windows function that I think you refer to when you mention Expose, I like it but cannot figure out how to disable the upper-left corner hotspot. My clock is there and I do take the mouse pointer over there to access my calendar. It is not in the Desktop Effects settings, not in the Keyboard settings, not in Shortcuts and Gestures settings... where else should I look? Thanks, Duncan. I've filed an issue for the Konqueror icon: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280713 -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Constant Konqueror icon
How does one configure Konqueror to always use it's own icon, and not to use the favicon or .desktop icon of the location to which it is browsing? I've looked through all the options but cannot find it. I remember this issue coming up once before, but I cannot find reference to it. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Constant Konqueror icon
Dotan Cohen posted on Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:04:07 +0300 as excerpted: How does one configure Konqueror to always use it's own icon, and not to use the favicon or .desktop icon of the location to which it is browsing? I've looked through all the options but cannot find it. I remember this issue coming up once before, but I cannot find reference to it. I don't believe I've ever seen or read about such an option, so your mention is news to me. =:^/ Not that I'd be likely to use it anyway. But I guess you have a user for whom the changing icon is confusing? You're talking about the application menu icon, in the titlebar, right? That'd ultimately be up to the window manager to set/enforce. FWIW, there's the --icon general-kde command-line option, but I believe that sets the original icon, the app can still change it, as konqueror does. Not that I've really used it to know, however, so you might /try/ it. There's also the various window decorations (under workspace appearance and behavior, workspace appearance). Some of those appear not to even have an app/menu button in the titlebar, and as most titlebar buttons, the app/menu button can be removed or placed elsewhere via button customization for at least most of the others. It's possible some decorations might have one, but (optionally?) not allow it to be changed after it's first set. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
