Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2013-03-10 Thread dE .
See, that's a different problem.

To see how exactly it works, you to refer man's man page; cause I
don't know how exactly man works. It happens that man can have
different man pages with similar names.

However if you try and open a man page pointing to it's exact path,
e.g /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.bz2, kio wont remove the .bz2 extension.
So this sounds like a new bug.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Example, enter man:ls.  It's opened in Chrome normally, but it says
 there's two ls man pages.  Whichever one I select, it simply tries to
 download a temporary *.bz2 file.


 On 09/03/13 05:06, dE . wrote:

 On second thought, it works fine.

 How does the problem persist in your case?

 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM, dE . de.tec...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like they didn't fix the bug; or there must've been a bug in this
 bugfix.

 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On 27/08/12 18:17, dE . wrote:


 On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


 Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It
 only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.

 This is what happens when I type man:tar:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

 When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

 So nothing changed.



 You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.



 I'm now on 4.10, and the problem persists :-(



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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2013-03-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Example, enter man:ls.  It's opened in Chrome normally, but it says 
there's two ls man pages.  Whichever one I select, it simply tries to 
download a temporary *.bz2 file.



On 09/03/13 05:06, dE . wrote:

On second thought, it works fine.

How does the problem persist in your case?

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM, dE . de.tec...@gmail.com wrote:

Looks like they didn't fix the bug; or there must've been a bug in this bugfix.

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:

On 27/08/12 18:17, dE . wrote:


On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It
only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.

This is what happens when I type man:tar:

   http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

   http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

So nothing changed.



You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.



I'm now on 4.10, and the problem persists :-(



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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2013-03-08 Thread dE .
On second thought, it works fine.

How does the problem persist in your case?

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM, dE . de.tec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like they didn't fix the bug; or there must've been a bug in this 
 bugfix.

 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27/08/12 18:17, dE . wrote:

 On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It
 only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.

 This is what happens when I type man:tar:

   http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

 When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

   http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

 So nothing changed.


 You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.


 I'm now on 4.10, and the problem persists :-(

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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-28 Thread dE .

On 08/28/12 05:32, Duncan wrote:

dE . posted on Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:47:10 +0530 as excerpted:


On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It
only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.

This is what happens when I type man:tar:

   http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

   http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

So nothing changed.

You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.

4.1?  Do you mean 4.9.1, or is this a timewarped post from 2007/2008?

=:^)



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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-27 Thread dE .

On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It 
only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.


This is what happens when I type man:tar:

  http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

  http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

So nothing changed.


You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.
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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-27 Thread Duncan
dE . posted on Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:47:10 +0530 as excerpted:

 On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It
 only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.

 This is what happens when I type man:tar:

   http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

 When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

   http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

 So nothing changed.
 
 You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.

4.1?  Do you mean 4.9.1, or is this a timewarped post from 2007/2008?

=:^)

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and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman

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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-20 Thread dE .
The svn build I mean.

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On Aug 19, 2012 10:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using KDE 4.9 and it's not fixed.  Only man pages that don't have
 alternatives are displayed.  But most have POSIX vs Linux versions, and the
 selection page doesn't work.

 There should be a way to set the man page viewer in an easy way.


 On 19/08/12 09:16, dE . wrote:

 The default browser is used for opening the man page. So you have to set
 it to konqueror in order to do so.

 the man page bug not opening in other browsers is fixed in KDE 4.9

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 On Aug 18, 2012 8:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
 mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and have the man page
 of foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without having to open a
 terminal or anything.

 However, since I installed Chromium and making it my default
 browser, now man: brings up Chromium instead.  That doesn't work;
 instead of displaying the man page, it downloads the *.bz2 from the
 local file system :-/

 How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles KDE's man:
 command?

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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-20 Thread dE .
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287551

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On Aug 21, 2012 3:26 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure where to look for this.  Do you know the commit so I can
 apply it here?


 On 20/08/12 10:45, dE . wrote:

 The svn build I mean.

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 On Aug 19, 2012 10:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
 mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using KDE 4.9 and it's not fixed.  Only man pages that don't
 have alternatives are displayed.  But most have POSIX vs Linux
 versions, and the selection page doesn't work.

 There should be a way to set the man page viewer in an easy way.


 On 19/08/12 09:16, dE . wrote:

 The default browser is used for opening the man page. So you
 have to set
 it to konqueror in order to do so.

 the man page bug not opening in other browsers is fixed in KDE 4.9

 --**__---
 Support software for non profit, buy Android phones.

 On Aug 18, 2012 8:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
 mailto:rea...@gmail.com
 mailto:rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

  In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and have the
 man page
  of foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without having to
 open a
  terminal or anything.

  However, since I installed Chromium and making it my default
  browser, now man: brings up Chromium instead.  That
 doesn't work;
  instead of displaying the man page, it downloads the *.bz2
 from the
  local file system :-/

  How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles
 KDE's man:
  command?


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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It 
only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.


This is what happens when I type man:tar:

  http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

  http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

So nothing changed.


On 21/08/12 05:17, dE . wrote:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287551

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On Aug 21, 2012 3:26 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm not sure where to look for this.  Do you know the commit so I
can apply it here?


On 20/08/12 10:45, dE . wrote:

The svn build I mean.

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On Aug 19, 2012 10:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
mailto:rea...@gmail.com
mailto:rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using KDE 4.9 and it's not fixed.  Only man pages that
don't
 have alternatives are displayed.  But most have POSIX vs Linux
 versions, and the selection page doesn't work.

 There should be a way to set the man page viewer in an easy
way.


 On 19/08/12 09:16, dE . wrote:

 The default browser is used for opening the man page.
So you
 have to set
 it to konqueror in order to do so.

 the man page bug not opening in other browsers is fixed
in KDE 4.9

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 Support software for non profit, buy Android phones.

 On Aug 18, 2012 8:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com
 mailto:rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com
 mailto:rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com
mailto:rea...@gmail.com mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

  In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and
have the
 man page
  of foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without
having to
 open a
  terminal or anything.

  However, since I installed Chromium and making it
my default
  browser, now man: brings up Chromium instead.  That
 doesn't work;
  instead of displaying the man page, it downloads
the *.bz2
 from the
  local file system :-/

  How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles
 KDE's man:
  command?



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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-19 Thread dE .
The default browser is used for opening the man page. So you have to set it
to konqueror in order to do so.

the man page bug not opening in other browsers is fixed in KDE 4.9

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On Aug 18, 2012 8:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and have the man page of
 foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without having to open a terminal or
 anything.

 However, since I installed Chromium and making it my default browser, now
 man: brings up Chromium instead.  That doesn't work; instead of
 displaying the man page, it downloads the *.bz2 from the local file system
 :-/

 How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles KDE's man:
 command?

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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I'm using KDE 4.9 and it's not fixed.  Only man pages that don't have 
alternatives are displayed.  But most have POSIX vs Linux versions, and 
the selection page doesn't work.


There should be a way to set the man page viewer in an easy way.


On 19/08/12 09:16, dE . wrote:

The default browser is used for opening the man page. So you have to set
it to konqueror in order to do so.

the man page bug not opening in other browsers is fixed in KDE 4.9

-
Support software for non profit, buy Android phones.

On Aug 18, 2012 8:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
mailto:rea...@gmail.com wrote:

In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and have the man page
of foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without having to open a
terminal or anything.

However, since I installed Chromium and making it my default
browser, now man: brings up Chromium instead.  That doesn't work;
instead of displaying the man page, it downloads the *.bz2 from the
local file system :-/

How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles KDE's man:
command?

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[kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and have the man page of 
foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without having to open a terminal 
or anything.


However, since I installed Chromium and making it my default browser, 
now man: brings up Chromium instead.  That doesn't work; instead of 
displaying the man page, it downloads the *.bz2 from the local file 
system :-/


How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles KDE's man: command?

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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-18 Thread Duncan
Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:12:59 +0300 as excerpted:

 In KDE, I'm very used to simply type man:foo and have the man page of
 foo pop up immediately in Konqueror without having to open a terminal
 or anything.
 
 However, since I installed Chromium and making it my default browser,
 now man: brings up Chromium instead.  That doesn't work; instead of
 displaying the man page, it downloads the *.bz2 from the local file
 system :-/
 
 How can I set Konqueror to be the program that handles KDE's man:
 command?

AFAIK, there's not direct way to do it, for reasons I explain, but it 
should be possible using the wrapper script method I demonstrate below.

This kde functionality is one of a number of kioslaves, kde i/o-slaves, 
that allow kde apps (mostly file and web browsers) to present various 
types of information virtually, not in its native format, but in a 
virtual format made to appear as if it were part of the filesystem, or 
in this case, present a different type of file as if it were a web page.

Try this to see the various kioslaves and see what they can do.  This 
will work best in dolphin, but will /sort/ /of/ work, to some degree or 
other depending on how well the particular app can handle the chosen type 
of data, in any kde app that lets you open a file dialog.

1) In the path line, switch to edit mode if necessary.

(kde4's file path lines have two modes, the traditional type-it-in aka 
edit aka edit-path mode, and the newer breakcrumbs aka navigate 
mode.  You can switch between them by clicking the end of the address 
line or by context/right clicking outside the textbox if in edit mode and 
selecting edit or navigate from the resulting menu.  In konqueror you'll 
need to open a file-open dialog, as its address bar is designed for 
internet address use.)

2) Once in edit-path mode, erase any existing path, including the /.

3) Immediately to the left of the textbox, you should now see file, 
with a down-arrow indicating a dropdown menu.  Click it.

4) The resulting menu will have a bunch of entries in addition to file, 
depending on how many of the available kioslaves you or your distro has 
chosen to install.  Note especially the other at the bottom, with a 
submenu where you should find the man listing.

5) Have fun browsing around.

In addition to dolphin and konqueror, you can try this in kwrite (from 
the file-open dialog).  Try it with the programs type, for instance.

As another example, if you have a cdrom, from dolphin/konqueror, the 
audiocd type allows you to browse virtual directories on the cd 
containing ogg/flac/mp3 virtual files (if your distro ships the 
necessary libs, some don't ship mp3 especially, due to patent concerns, 
etc), which you can copy elsewhere to have kde directly convert/encode to 
the corresponding filetype on-the-fly as it's copying.  (The settings 
for audiocd's encode quality, default cd device, etc, are in kde settings 
under hardware, audio and video, audio cds.)


6) If you try browsing the man type/kioslave, you'll get a virtual 
directory containing all manpages, but here presented as virtual HTML 
documents, plus virtual subdirs for each type, a User Commands virtual 
dir for man section 1, File Formats for man (5), etc.  If you enter a 
subdir, you get just the manpages-as-html-files corresponding to that 
section.


This is where you can see the man kioslave actually doing its thing.  If 
you open any of the virtual files with kwrite, you'll see the html 
source code that the kioslave generated.

Which is where the problem comes in.  If you look at the filetype for any 
of these man kioslave virtual files, you'll see them listed as HTML 
Document.  Of course you COULD switch the open-with association back to 
konqueror as top priority, but that would switch it for ALL files of type 
HTML Document...

FWIW, here, I have firefox set as my preferred browser, so they all open 
in firefox.  Firefox actually does a good job at displaying most of them, 
but I did see that apparently due to some internal firefox setting, any 
*.conf manpage (like xorg.conf, for instance), gets displayed as plain-
text, even tho kde's giving firefox the same sort of tempfile using the 
file:// protocol as it does with the other manpages, so it /must/ be a 
setting specific to *.conf files in firefox itself, that's forcing the 
plain-text display.


So what the kde man kioslave is doing is generating the html code on the 
fly, then passing it to whatever browser as a tempfile.  The only way 
you're going to change what browser gets the file, at least directly, is 
to change kde's top-ranked open-with for HTML Documents... which will 
unfortunately change it for all such documents.


And I really do NOT recommend konqueror as default browser, given kde's 
clear treatment of it as a toy, not for ordinary users to use as their 
normal browser, including with secure websites, etc.  (See the lack of 
security certificate management for YEARS after declaring