[kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-18 Thread andre_debian
Hello,

How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze ?

The command "aptitude install kde .."
could do that but with the 4.6 version
and I want the 4.9.

I downloaded the KDE 4.9 package on the KDE site,
but no howto to compile and install the package.

Thank for a help.

andré
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-18 Thread dE .
I think its not possible cause of old QT libs.

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On Aug 18, 2012 7:50 PM,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze ?
>
> The command "aptitude install kde .."
> could do that but with the 4.6 version
> and I want the 4.9.
>
> I downloaded the KDE 4.9 package on the KDE site,
> but no howto to compile and install the package.
>
> Thank for a help.
>
> andré
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-19 Thread Harry Miller
One can do it, but its going to be a pain as you have to compile qt on your own 
plus all the little deps like strigi which will overwrite your distro packages 
and possibly cause alot of problems later on. I'd suggest using a more 
up-to-date distro since andre evidently isn't that familiar with compiling from 
scratch. 
or hope that someone has a repo with kde 4.9 available for squeeze. 

--- On Sun, 8/19/12, dE .  wrote:

From: dE . 
Subject: Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze
To: kde@mail.kde.org
Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 12:30 AM

I think its not possible cause of old QT libs.

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On Aug 18, 2012 7:50 PM,   wrote:

Hello,



How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze ?



The command "aptitude install kde .."

could do that but with the 4.6 version

and I want the 4.9.



I downloaded the KDE 4.9 package on the KDE site,

but no howto to compile and install the package.



Thank for a help.



andré

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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-20 Thread andre_debian
Hello Harry,

I founded this link available for Kubuntu :
www.thepowerbase.com/2012/08/how-to-install-kde-4-9-available-immediately-for-kubuntu/

On Debian Squeeze :
# add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports -y
kubuntu-ppa/backports
Executing: 
gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring 
/etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring 
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver 
keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys

Debian seems not accepted to work with a backport Ubuntu ...

Bye, see you.

andré


On Sunday 19 August 2012 16:44:04 Harry Miller wrote:
> One can do it, but its going to be a pain as you have to compile qt on your
> own plus all the little deps like strigi which will overwrite your distro
> packages and possibly cause alot of problems later on. I'd suggest using a
> more up-to-date distro since andre evidently isn't that familiar with
> compiling from scratch. or hope that someone has a repo with kde 4.9
> available for squeeze.
>
> --- On Sun, 8/19/12, dE .  wrote:
> I think its not possible cause of old QT libs.

> Support software for non profit, buy Android phones.
> On Aug 18, 2012 7:50 PM,   wrote:
> The command "aptitude install kde .."
> could do that but with the 4.6 version
> and I want the 4.9.
> I downloaded the KDE 4.9 package on the KDE site,
> but no howto to compile and install the package.
> Thank for a help. andré
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-20 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 20/08/2012 at 12:52, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

> On Debian Squeeze :
> # add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports -y
> kubuntu-ppa/backports
> Executing:
> gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
> --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
> --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
> --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
> 
> Debian seems not accepted to work with a backport Ubuntu ...

This creates file 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-wheezy.list
with content like this:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu wheezy main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu wheezy main

Since there is no wheezy directory on kubuntu-ppa launchpad site, apt-get 
update will fail.

If you care, you must use correct sources.lists entries:
(for Ubuntu 12.04:)
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main 
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main 

OR (for Ubuntu 11.10:)
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu oneiric main 
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu oneiric main 

Please note that these packages were made with Ubuntu in mind and perhaps no 
one has ever tested them on Debian. It is unlikely they will break your 
system, but most certainly they may break your KDE installation. Pay special 
attention to any warning messages you may encounter while installing these 
packages.

Oh, and get rid of your current KDE installation before you proceed. Almost 
certainly these packages are in conflict with each other, even if no one has 
marked them so.
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-20 Thread dE .
4.9 will be available on Debian testing once wheezy freezes.

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On Aug 19, 2012 8:15 PM, "Harry Miller"  wrote:

> One can do it, but its going to be a pain as you have to compile qt on
> your own plus all the little deps like strigi which will overwrite your
> distro packages and possibly cause alot of problems later on. I'd suggest
> using a more up-to-date distro since andre evidently isn't that familiar
> with compiling from scratch.
> or hope that someone has a repo with kde 4.9 available for squeeze.
>
> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, dE . * wrote:
>
>
> From: dE . 
> Subject: Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze
> To: kde@mail.kde.org
> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 12:30 AM
>
> I think its not possible cause of old QT libs.
>
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> On Aug 18, 2012 7:50 PM, 
> http://mc/compose?to=andre_deb...@numericable.fr>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze ?
>
> The command "aptitude install kde .."
> could do that but with the 4.6 version
> and I want the 4.9.
>
> I downloaded the KDE 4.9 package on the KDE site,
> but no howto to compile and install the package.
>
> Thank for a help.
>
> andré
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-20 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 20/08/2012 at 14:55, "dE ."  wrote:

> 4.9 will be available on Debian testing once wheezy freezes.

I suppose you meant "releases". Wheezy is frozen for almost two months right 
now.

We can expect release of Wheezy around January/February 2013. At this time, 
KDE 4.10 will be around a block. So Debian KDE maintainers might as well 
decide to skip 4.9 entirely, pretty much as they did with 4.5.

Or do you have any official statement available? If so, I am most eager to read 
it.
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-20 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 20 August 2012 16:37:49 Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 at 14:55, "dE ."  wrote:
> > 4.9 will be available on Debian testing once wheezy freezes.

> I suppose you meant "releases". Wheezy is frozen for almost two months
> right now.
> We can expect release of Wheezy around January/February 2013. At this time,
> KDE 4.10 will be around a block. So Debian KDE maintainers might as well
> decide to skip 4.9 entirely, pretty much as they did with 4.5.

> Or do you have any official statement available? If so, I am most eager to
> read it.

I too !

Waiting to beginning of 2013, maybe more, is too long ...

Actually, on Wheezy (unstable) the package KDE = 4.9 or less ?

André
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-20 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 20/08/2012 at 19:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

> Actually, on Wheezy (unstable) the package KDE = 4.9 or less ?

On both Wheezy and unstable there are 4.8.4 packages. Wheezy will ship with 
it [0], and due to Debian freeze policy, we won't see 4.9 in unstable.

It may end up in semi-official repository [1] sometime during a freeze, but it 
has never been confirmed (I wouldn't count on it). It has been confirmed that 
KDEPIM from 4.8.4 will be packaged [2] - look at it in this external 
repository or in experimental.

If you need to use KDE 4.9, you may:
- compile it yourself. Perhaps upgrade to Wheezy before, since it has newer Qt 
and Qt development packages available.
- use another distribution. Kubuntu is Ubuntu-based (which, in turn, is 
Debian-based), so it has administrative tools you should be familiar with. 
There are also openSUSE, Arch, Gentoo and many others that has KDE 4.9 
available.

[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/05/msg00066.html
[1] http://qt-kde.debian.net/
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/06/msg00047.html
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Re: [kde] How to install KDE 4.9 on Debian Squeeze

2012-08-21 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 20 August 2012 20:11:22 Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 at 19:02, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> > Actually, on Wheezy (unstable) the package KDE = 4.9 or less ?

> On both Wheezy and unstable there are 4.8.4 packages. Wheezy will ship with
> it [0], and due to Debian freeze policy, we won't see 4.9 in unstable.
> It may end up in semi-official repository [1] sometime during a freeze, but
> it has never been confirmed (I wouldn't count on it). It has been confirmed
> that KDEPIM from 4.8.4 will be packaged [2] - look at it in this external
> repository or in experimental.
> If you need to use KDE 4.9, you may:
> - compile it yourself. Perhaps upgrade to Wheezy before, since it has newer
> Qt and Qt development packages available.
> - use another distribution. Kubuntu is Ubuntu-based (which, in turn, is
> Debian-based), so it has administrative tools you should be familiar with.
> There are also openSUSE, Arch, Gentoo and many others that has KDE 4.9
> available.
> [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/05/msg00066.html
> [1] http://qt-kde.debian.net/
> [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/06/msg00047.html
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Thanks Miroslaw,

Ubuntu offers the possibility to upgrade
or install KDE 4.9 easily, not Debian ... !
I will see to migrate to Ubuntu.

I tried to compile the package KDE 4.9,
success with QT, some packages "dev",
and, at a moment, the system asks for some
"kde-headers" (?) ... without more precision :
blocked !

I need KDE 4.9, because I use Kmail
and the bugs have been resolved
with the 4.9 version.

I hope that Wheezy will be prompted released
or avalaible even in testing ...

Now I use TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment),
seems to be KDE 3.X and works good even kmail.

See you.

andré
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