[kde] Kmail passwords

2012-01-22 Thread Peter G Nikolic
Hi All


I have a problem that is annoyin to say the least  

I older versions of Kmail it would very happily store the mail passwords in 
the config file  now it does not althou i tell it to store them system versions 
as in sig block   but just in case 


KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4)  64 bit 

every time i close down the system and restart it i have to re enter ALL the 
passwords for Kmail (thats 11 passwords)  . I do not like the Kwallet thing 
and do not wish to use it at allhow do i convince Kmail to behave   

Thanks pete .



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Re: [kde] Kmail passwords

2012-01-22 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2012-01-23, Duncan wrote:

 Meanwhile, of course, with 4.8 kde is introducing the new ksecrets
 framework, designed to be api compatible with gnome-keyring (tho the
 backends are different),

Just to clarify: secret service is actually a new API for services providing 
secure local storage. One implementation of such a service is gnome-keyring, 
though a lot of GNOME based programs still use the old, gnome-keyring specific, 
API.

There is some progress on a KDE based implementation for both the service and 
the client part of a secret service setup.
The service component will at some point be run as part of a KDE workspace 
setup, offering its services to any client application developed for the secret 
service API.
The client library will allow KDE applications to access any other service 
implementation, e.g. when the KDE application is running in a setup which uses 
gnome-keyring as the storage service.

The KWallet API will be implemented in terms of the new API, thus making 
KWallet using applications use the currently running secret service.

 and over the next several kde versions, it's
 likely various apps will switch to ksecrets from kwallet, leaving kwallet
 deprecated, altho I'm guessing it'll remain available thru the kde4
 series.

Indeed.

 But whether it'll be in kde 5 or whether ksecrets will take over
 for kde5 and they'll drop kwallet, remains to be seen.

I don't think this is a question of if. It is more a question of whether we 
will see a stand-alone or shared service implementation being used by common 
workspace setups.

In any case this won't change anything for the thread starter until there is a 
service implementation that does not store the data in an encrypted file but in 
plain text based file(s).

Cheers,
Kevin

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