Re: [kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-18 Thread ianseeks
On Thursday 11 Jul 2013 15:52:09 Graham Lauder wrote:
> I'm having a problem with deleting duplicate emails in Kmail2
> 
> I get an error message
> 
> "Unable to fetch item from backend (collection 58) : Unable to retrieve item
> from resource: Invalid item retrieved"
> 
> I upgraded my system and imported my mail from my old Kmail and have had the
> problem since.  Every time I run filters I end up with a lot more
> duplicates.
Filtering always produces duplicates, its a known issue that seems to be way 
down the order of priorities.
Turn off the autofiltering i.e. don't apply to incoming emails. Once all new 
emails are downloaded then select all the emails in the inbox with 'ctrl-a' 
and then 'ctrl-j' to apply all the filters and you are less likely to get 
duplicates.
 
> 
> I searched the bug database and found
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288040
> 
> Problem is there has been no response there.
> 
> I uninstalled kmail and then reinstalled, no joy.  Could it be something to
> do with Akonadi because after reinstall nothing had changed.  Can I remove
> Akonadi and start again some how without breaking other stuff.  Kmail is
> becoming pretty much unusable which is a shame because I love it to bits
> when it's going right.
> 
> Cheers
> GL
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Re: [kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-11 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 11/07/13 04:52, Graham Lauder wrote:
> I'm having a problem with deleting duplicate emails in Kmail2
> 
> I get an error message
> 
> "Unable to fetch item from backend (collection 58) : Unable to
> retrieve item from resource: Invalid item retrieved"
> 
> I upgraded my system and imported my mail from my old Kmail and
> have had the problem since.  Every time I run filters I end up with
> a lot more duplicates.
> 
> I searched the bug database and found 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288040
> 
> Problem is there has been no response there.
> 
> I uninstalled kmail and then reinstalled, no joy.  Could it be
> something to do with Akonadi because after reinstall nothing had
> changed.  Can I remove Akonadi and start again some how without
> breaking other stuff.  Kmail is becoming pretty much unusable which
> is a shame because I love it to bits when it's going right.
> 
Like many others I felt beaten and migrated to Thunderbird for the
present, but I'm still experimenting with KMail, as it beats the socks
off all the others when it's working well.  V. 4.10 works without any
of the problems I've seen on earlier versions, once you have it
working right, but it's still horribly slow.  I understand that there
has been a considerable re-code for 4.11 that should deal with that.

You don't mention which version you are running, but anything prior to
4.10 is too old.

Meanwhile, this is what I suggest you try.

First, make sure that KMail is not running.  Then copy
~/.local/share/akonadi to ~/.local/share/akonadi-old and
~/.config/akonadi to ~/.config/akonadi-old.

Start SystemSettings > Personal and remove all the resources.
Go back to Dolphin and remove the original ~/.local/share/akonadi and
~/.config/akonadi - the copies you made ensure that you can back-track
if necessary.

Now go back to the SystemSettings page and carefully add the necessary
resources.  You should see the resource reading in your mail folders.
 Then start Kontact/KMail and it should be working properly.

Hope that helps

Anne
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Re: [kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-11 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:18:47 +1200, Martin Skjöldebrand  
 wrote:



On Thursday 11 Jul 2013 16:40:41 Graham Lauder wrote:

There seems to be a database issue and possibly there might be a fix at  
db

level I don't know but it appears that Kmail has been abandoned by the
devs given the lack of response on bugzilla.


While I just took up Linux desktop again on my HP laptop (because I  
managed to

nuke my Windows installation) and can't help with the problem as such, it
seems the kde-pim list is active and possibly more useful for KMail2  
issues.


Thanks for that I'll give them a try



And no, KMail isn't being abandoned. And yes from what I've seen  
elsewhere
it's possible to run KMail2 without Akonadi, but don't take my word for  
it. It
seems a lot of weird things originate with the backend systems Akonadi  
and

Nepomuk rather than KMail2 itself.

BTW, what happens if you try CTRL+* on a folder with duplicates?


Same error message.  Although I just tried it on a new folder that didn't  
have any imported mail in and it worked a treat.  Seems like there may be  
an issue with the importer


Cheers
G




/Martin S
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Re: [kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand
On Thursday 11 Jul 2013 16:40:41 Graham Lauder wrote:

> There seems to be a database issue and possibly there might be a fix at db
> level I don't know but it appears that Kmail has been abandoned by the
> devs given the lack of response on bugzilla.

While I just took up Linux desktop again on my HP laptop (because I managed to 
nuke my Windows installation) and can't help with the problem as such, it 
seems the kde-pim list is active and possibly more useful for KMail2 issues.

And no, KMail isn't being abandoned. And yes from what I've seen elsewhere 
it's possible to run KMail2 without Akonadi, but don't take my word for it. It 
seems a lot of weird things originate with the backend systems Akonadi and 
Nepomuk rather than KMail2 itself.

BTW, what happens if you try CTRL+* on a folder with duplicates?

/Martin S
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Re: [kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-10 Thread Graham Lauder

On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:09:26 +1200, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:


Graham Lauder posted on Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:52:09 +1200 as excerpted:


I uninstalled kmail and then reinstalled, no joy.  Could it be something
to do with Akonadi because after reinstall nothing had changed.  Can I
remove Akonadi and start again some how without breaking other stuff.
Kmail is becoming pretty much unusable which is a shame because I love
it to bits when it's going right.


This is definitely a case of YMMV, but FWIW, I came to the same
conclusion some versions ago, and switched to claws-mail here, which I'm
very happy with.  It's gtk, but with the appropriate box checked in the
kde color settings kcontrol module, kde's colors take, and because claws-
mail considers script and commandline integration a bullet-point feature,
it's unlikely to change up the back end and break everybody's scripts as
well as create huge numbers of bugs in the app itself, as kmail did when
it akonadified.




I've taken to using Opera mail and I'm getting to like it more and more  
but of course it doesn't have the Calendar.  It's disappointing when a  
programme just get's worse and worse rather than a continual line of  
improvement.  The old Kmail on my wifes openSUSE 11.2 box works fine. No  
issues, rock solid.  I'm not sure what to do beyond posting on bugzilla.   
There seems to be a database issue and possibly there might be a fix at db  
level I don't know but it appears that Kmail has been abandoned by the  
devs given the lack of response on bugzilla.


Cheers
G


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Re: [kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-10 Thread Duncan
Graham Lauder posted on Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:52:09 +1200 as excerpted:

> I uninstalled kmail and then reinstalled, no joy.  Could it be something
> to do with Akonadi because after reinstall nothing had changed.  Can I
> remove Akonadi and start again some how without breaking other stuff.
> Kmail is becoming pretty much unusable which is a shame because I love
> it to bits when it's going right.

This is definitely a case of YMMV, but FWIW, I came to the same 
conclusion some versions ago, and switched to claws-mail here, which I'm 
very happy with.  It's gtk, but with the appropriate box checked in the 
kde color settings kcontrol module, kde's colors take, and because claws-
mail considers script and commandline integration a bullet-point feature, 
it's unlikely to change up the back end and break everybody's scripts as 
well as create huge numbers of bugs in the app itself, as kmail did when 
it akonadified.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

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[kde] Kmail2 problem

2013-07-10 Thread Graham Lauder
I'm having a problem with deleting duplicate emails in Kmail2 

I get an error message 

"Unable to fetch item from backend (collection 58) : Unable to retrieve item 
from resource: Invalid item retrieved"

I upgraded my system and imported my mail from my old Kmail and have had the 
problem since.  Every time I run filters I end up with a lot more duplicates.

I searched the bug database and found 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288040

Problem is there has been no response there. 

I uninstalled kmail and then reinstalled, no joy.  Could it be something to do 
with Akonadi because after reinstall nothing had changed.  Can I remove 
Akonadi and start again some how without breaking other stuff.  Kmail is 
becoming pretty much unusable which is a shame because I love it to bits when 
it's going right.

Cheers
GL 
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