Re: [kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-24 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:00:29AM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

> > I have a teensy weensy problem with mounting removable storage media.
> > In short form:
> > [...]
> > B)
> > - insert media
> > - use the appearing popup to display contents in Dolphin
> >   -> I get permission denied message
> > - open Dolphin
> > - click the media's item
> >   -> the content is displayed and a second Dolphin opens with the same path
> 
> As it turned out, I had not done a full upgrade after all... many packages
> were still installed in the 15.12 version. But I saw no message of package
> or library conflicts, so I was unaware of it.
> 
> Once I marked all available "kde apps" packages to be upgraded to their
> 16.04 version in my package manager, everything went back to normal:
>
>
I revoke that last statement... after a reboot, the problem is still there.
I open the storage media popup, click on a storage media item, the dropdown
menu opens (which, as mentioned, did not happen before I upgraded
everything), and I select dolphin. Again, I get permission denied. Then I
open dolphin manually and click on the media item, and then I get as many
additional dolphin windows as I tried to open the media via the popup menu.

Unmounting via the plasma popup works, though.

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Re: [kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-24 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 06:56:02PM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Hello fellows,
> 
> a week or so ago I did the upgrade from 4.14 to 5.7.0. Once I got around all
> package-manager-related complications, the system is stable and works as
> expected for the most parts. I've not had a single crash yet. :)
> 
> I have a teensy weensy problem with mounting removable storage media.
> In short form:
> [...]
> B)
> - insert media
> - use the appearing popup to display contents in Dolphin
>   -> I get permission denied message
> - open Dolphin
> - click the media's item
>   -> the content is displayed and a second Dolphin opens with the same path


As it turned out, I had not done a full upgrade after all... many packages
were still installed in the 15.12 version. But I saw no message of package
or library conflicts, so I was unaware of it.

Once I marked all available "kde apps" packages to be upgraded to their
16.04 version in my package manager, everything went back to normal: now
when I click a media item in the storage media popup, I get the usual
dropdown menu with possible actions. I didn't have that menu and was
wondering where it went. I actually didn't miss it and thought it was
removed, since it meant one less click to access the media.

Tata
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Re: [kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 09:57:24AM +0200, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

> >So the degree to which I can be of help is rather limited.  However, the
> >problem reads to me like a missing polkit invocation in the failing path.
> >I'd dig around to find the commandline used in both paths, and 
> 
> To me this sounds more like a timing problem. I'd hope that the mounting
> process is independent of dolphin (or whatever other application would try
> to acces the mountpoint). The fact that you can wait, launch dolphin
> manually and find the new volume in the side-bar (or Places thingy) would
> support that interpretation.
> 
> Or do you get the same issue if you wait a reasonable time (for instance
> until the popup menu closes itself again) and then use the "Open in
> Dolphin" menu? In that case there must indeed be something wrong with the
> way dolphin is invoked by that menu action.

The first time I clicked the popup away, opened it again and clicked the
item, I got a Dolphin window and a message about not being able to open a
URL. I clicked it away too soon to note the actual URL.

I tried it again now and gave it some time. The popup did not go away by
itself. And even after a few minutes of waiting, I still get permission
denied.
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Re: [kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-21 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday July 20 2016 23:19:14 Duncan wrote:

>So the degree to which I can be of help is rather limited.  However, the 
>problem reads to me like a missing polkit invocation in the failing 
>path.  I'd dig around to find the commandline used in both paths, and 

To me this sounds more like a timing problem. I'd hope that the mounting 
process is independent of dolphin (or whatever other application would try to 
acces the mountpoint). The fact that you can wait, launch dolphin manually and 
find the new volume in the side-bar (or Places thingy) would support that 
interpretation.

Or do you get the same issue if you wait a reasonable time (for instance until 
the popup menu closes itself again) and then use the "Open in Dolphin" menu? In 
that case there must indeed be something wrong with the way dolphin is invoked 
by that menu action.

R.
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Re: [kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-20 Thread Duncan
Frank Steinmetzger posted on Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:56:02 +0200 as excerpted:

> Hello fellows,
> 
> a week or so ago I did the upgrade from 4.14 to 5.7.0. Once I got around
> all package-manager-related complications, the system is stable and
> works as expected for the most parts. I've not had a single crash yet.
> :)
> 
> I have a teensy weensy problem with mounting removable storage media.
> In short form:
> 
> A)
> - insert media
> - open Dolphin
> - click the media's item on the Places panel
>   -> the content is displayed and all is fine
> 
> B)
> - insert media
> - use the appearing popup to display contents in Dolphin
>   -> I get permission denied message
> - open Dolphin
> - click the media's item
>   -> the content is displayed and a second Dolphin opens with the same
>   path
> 
> Does this sound familiar to anyone?
> 
> @Duncan: revdep-rebuild and @preserved-rebuild return empty results. ;)

Since my name was mentioned...

I have all the automagic mounting stuff turned off here, no policykit, 
udisks, etc, installed.  If I want something mounted, I mount it.  When I 
want it umounted, I umount it.  KDE/plasma-lite, in that regard and a 
number of others.  (FWIW I patch plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop 
sources to drop the baloo requirement.  There's a gentoo bug with the 
patches for anyone else interested but the gentoo/kde project isn't, so 
it's closed.)

So the degree to which I can be of help is rather limited.  However, the 
problem reads to me like a missing polkit invocation in the failing 
path.  I'd dig around to find the commandline used in both paths, and 
compare them.  Presumably the failing one is missing the bit that invokes 
polkit to get the permissions to do the mount.

With a bit of luck you can get confirmation here whether it works on 
other distros (along with their upstream kde plasma and frameworks 
release numbers).  You can also search kde bugzilla to see what comes up 
there, and presuming it's not gentoo specific, can cc a bug or file a new 
one if necessary.

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[kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hello fellows,

a week or so ago I did the upgrade from 4.14 to 5.7.0. Once I got around all
package-manager-related complications, the system is stable and works as
expected for the most parts. I've not had a single crash yet. :)

I have a teensy weensy problem with mounting removable storage media.
In short form:

A)
- insert media
- open Dolphin
- click the media's item on the Places panel
  -> the content is displayed and all is fine

B)
- insert media
- use the appearing popup to display contents in Dolphin
  -> I get permission denied message
- open Dolphin
- click the media's item
  -> the content is displayed and a second Dolphin opens with the same path

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

@Duncan: revdep-rebuild and @preserved-rebuild return empty results. ;)
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