[kde] Re: Link (impossibly generic systemsettings and system monitor): GNOME KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name

2011-07-25 Thread John Woodhouse
Big Snip

I have found that having all apps named via a K at the start infuriating in the 
past. Also that the name often doesn't have any bearing on the function of the 
app. In some cases this may be due to language and as most software uses an 
English language naming convention I can understand why people might like that.

System Settings - In my view this is probably the messiest aspect of kde4. I 
can understand why people might feel that it isn't really system settings but 
in some respects some of it is. As to K's ;-) I didn't have any problem with 
Kcontrol really and in real terms there is no reason why it shouldn't still be 
called that but in my view a more apt title would be Settings. That can grow 
without problem and bears no relationship to control panel or the like. Not 
that I hate windoze and everything to do with it.


Once in it as it stands I have to wonder. Account details for instance, surely 
that should be admin. Then there is Common Appearance and Behaviour against 
Workspace Appearance and Behaviour.  Both sound vaguely similar to me - 
Desktop Settings. And then there is File Associations, now just where should 
that be.

To me the whole thing needs breaking down to further levels to allow people to 
get to what ever they are after. Eg The 2 I mentioned might come under Desktop, 
we know we are in settings so there is no need for anything else. Desktop can 
then be broken down further. Other top level names might be Admin, Network, and 
yes even System to cover things like launches at start up, back ground 
searches, associations etc. Software is likely to be another candidate as well 
but many regard KDE's attempts at that with disdain. I have already had 
problems with it so have others. It's best left to the distro's really and they 
should maintain it,


John

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[kde] Re: Link (impossibly generic systemsettings and system monitor): GNOME KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name

2011-07-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/24 08:45 (GMT+0100) Peter Nikolic composed:

 WHat was wrong with the old  Personal Settings   name  as in KDE 3.x.x  i

Personal Settings was not a KDE moniker, but one used by openSUSE and maybe 
some other distros.

 could never understand the need for change except to pre-empt this exact
 problem, After all  the settings in question are for the individual user so if
 user 1 logs out and user 2 logs in user2 may want/need different  stiings 
 hence
 thay are not System but on a Per user basis

Not that there's any justification for what Gnome devs did, but what _was_ 
wrong with KControl? KControl still makes more sense to me, as it doesn't 
imply global settings management, as opposed to user-specific settings 
management, which is most of what they do.
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