Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
On Tuesday 06 August 2013 23:40:54 Felix Miata wrote:
> Anyone successfully using this?
yes, all of my three daughters use it to create and modify video clips
> The obvious place to start, I would think, is to open a video file, so that's
> what I tried. Since all the files I have that need commercials removed are
> .ts files, apparently I need something less obvious than "file open", as its
> file picker found none of my .ts files in the directories in which they are
> located.
>
> So, is this yet another program that can't remove commercials from video
> transport stream files? If it can, how? Help doesn't work ("help center" not
> installed, without mention of package name containing "help center"). Do I
> have to "capture" from the .ts files before editing? Is some sort of filter
> missing? The file picker filter list only has 3 entries, none of which I
> recognize as a video file type. Is there a FAQ somewhere that's accessible
> that lists the file types it can work with?
you need to add the video file as a video clip.
Menu: Project -> Add Clip
I did not use it for something serious, just a bit of playing with it,
but AFAIK the reason is simply that kdenlive lets you aggregate multiple clips
to create one final video out of that, e.g. a video clip added with a music
clip etc.
To create the final video you need to render the kdenlive project to a target
video format
Also check
http://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/QuickStart
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Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
On Qui, 2013-08-08 at 04:54 +, Duncan wrote: > http://lwn.net/Articles/grumpy-editor/ unfortunately a little out of date . from http://lwn.net/Articles/263387/ kino have been dropped of rpmfusion tovid stopped ages ago, also not functional . but from http://lwn.net/Articles/262985/ avidemux is OK (not mention before) Cinelerra not compile since Fedora 14 ( https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118#c24 ) but found a package for mageia2 ru http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/SRPMS/cinelerra-4.4-3.mrc.mga2.src.rpm and Lives now is build in russian Fedora http://koji.russianfedora.ru/koji/packageinfo?packageID=185 -- Sérgio M. B. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 23:40:54 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since > Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. So far it is just as unintuitive and > useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch. > This link may help understand why there may be problems http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=112105&p=269759&hilit=kdenlive#p269488 I've used Kdenlive though not for some time but AFAIK it's still fully maintained. HTH -- Jim MacLeod ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
Actually, :-) just noticed that the 1st link has show other versions - show
unstable versions but don't forget to click on the link to the left to make
sure they did build correctly.
John
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> From: John Woodhouse
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> Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013, 9:02
> Subject: Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
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>T his link may help
>
> http://software.opensuse.org/package/kdenlive
>
> Found with the search tool off the opensuse build service page. Always the
> best
> place too look if running opensuse.
>
> http://software.opensuse.org/package/kdenlive
>
> There are also a number of projects kicking about on the build service that
> may
> offer additional facilities in packages that suse feel they can't offer in
> std releases for the usual reasons. Finding them is more difficult. Googling
> opensuse build service version eg 12.3 package name often finds them. There
> is
> an option to show unstable versions on these pages ie not part of the
> official
> release. If you follow the project link a page will come up showing on which
> opensuse releases the package built correctly. This is usually the way to get
> the very latest release of a package. In this case using this method may add
> an
> unofficial multimedia repo to your updates. This can be browsed to see what
> it
> offers. I assume there still is one but I haven't used it for some years.
>
> Just tried the 2nd approach and not much luck but am in the wilds of Wales
> using
> a neighbours wi fi and :-( windoze too.
>
>
>
> John
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
>>
>> From: Felix Miata
>> To: kde@mail.kde.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 4:40
>> Subject: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
>>
>>
>> Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since
>
>> Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. So far it is just as unintuitive and
>> useless very other "video editing" application I've tried,
> which is a bunch.
>>
>> Just getting it installed was no fun. I tried it on 12.1, 12.2 and 12.3. On
>> 12.1 it wouldn't install due to some obsolete mlt5 requirement with only
> a
>> newer mlt6 available. On 12.2 I only managed to get the older v0.6. On 12.3
> I
>> first got a non-functional 0.9.4 because it required an older ffmpeg than
> the
>> one installed. By forcing to the 0.9.6 version from Packman it installed,
> but
>> without having pulled in various packages that I had no expectation of
>> needing (dvgrab, dvdauthor, genisoimage/mkisofs).
>>
>> The obvious place to start, I would think, is to open a video file, so
> that's
>> what I tried. Since all the files I have that need commercials removed are
>> .ts files, apparently I need something less obvious than "file
> open", as its
>> file picker found none of my .ts files in the directories in which they are
>> located.
>>
>> So, is this yet another program that can't remove commercials from video
>
>> transport stream files? If it can, how? Help doesn't work ("help
> center" not
>> installed, without mention of package name containing "help
> center"). Do I
>> have to "capture" from the .ts files before editing? Is some sort
> of filter
>> missing? The file picker filter list only has 3 entries, none of which I
>> recognize as a video file type. Is there a FAQ somewhere that's
> accessible
>> that lists the file types it can work with?
>>
>> TIA
>> --
>> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
>> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
>>
>> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>>
>> Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
This link may help
http://software.opensuse.org/package/kdenlive
Found with the search tool off the opensuse build service page. Always the best
place too look if running opensuse.
http://software.opensuse.org/package/kdenlive
There are also a number of projects kicking about on the build service that may
offer additional facilities in packages that suse feel they can't offer in std
releases for the usual reasons. Finding them is more difficult. Googling
opensuse build service version eg 12.3 package name often finds them. There is
an option to show unstable versions on these pages ie not part of the official
release. If you follow the project link a page will come up showing on which
opensuse releases the package built correctly. This is usually the way to get
the very latest release of a package. In this case using this method may add an
unofficial multimedia repo to your updates. This can be browsed to see what it
offers. I assume there still is one but I haven't used it for some years.
Just tried the 2nd approach and not much luck but am in the wilds of Wales
using a neighbours wi fi and :-( windoze too.
John
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>
> From: Felix Miata
>To: kde@mail.kde.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 4:40
>Subject: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
>
>
>Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since
>Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. So far it is just as unintuitive and
>useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch.
>
>Just getting it installed was no fun. I tried it on 12.1, 12.2 and 12.3. On
>12.1 it wouldn't install due to some obsolete mlt5 requirement with only a
>newer mlt6 available. On 12.2 I only managed to get the older v0.6. On 12.3 I
>first got a non-functional 0.9.4 because it required an older ffmpeg than the
>one installed. By forcing to the 0.9.6 version from Packman it installed, but
>without having pulled in various packages that I had no expectation of
>needing (dvgrab, dvdauthor, genisoimage/mkisofs).
>
>The obvious place to start, I would think, is to open a video file, so that's
>what I tried. Since all the files I have that need commercials removed are
>.ts files, apparently I need something less obvious than "file open", as its
>file picker found none of my .ts files in the directories in which they are
>located.
>
>So, is this yet another program that can't remove commercials from video
>transport stream files? If it can, how? Help doesn't work ("help center" not
>installed, without mention of package name containing "help center"). Do I
>have to "capture" from the .ts files before editing? Is some sort of filter
>missing? The file picker filter list only has 3 entries, none of which I
>recognize as a video file type. Is there a FAQ somewhere that's accessible
>that lists the file types it can work with?
>
>TIA
>--
>"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
>words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
>
> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
>
>Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
Felix Miata posted on Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:18:20 -0400 as excerpted: > On 2013-08-07 15:07 (GMT+0100) Sérgio Basto composed: > >> On 2013-08-06 at 23:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down >>> (since Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look >>> at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. > >> rpmfusion ship it for Fedora , > >> repoquery -q kdenlive --nvr kdenlive-0.9.6-2.fc19 > > Same system has F19, so I installed this, which uses a newer 0.8.8 mlt > version. Its file picker also only offers the same three file types to > open, > none of which I recognize as common video file types. > >>> So far it is just as unintuitive and useless very other "video >>> editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch. > >> have you a better suggestion ? > > I was hoping someone would provide me with either a usable suggestion, > or an explanation what it is I'm missing. I have NOT used it personally, but I've seen some article teasers on it, I think mostly on LWN, which is known for its quality Linux/FLOSS coverage, AND for its reasonably high quality comments, which many times point out other options or otherwise provide very useful information -- so be sure and scan them too. Doing a quick search there, these three candidates look interesting (newest first): LWN Feature: Keeping up with Kdenlive, Sept. 19, 2012, by David Philips. Includes several screenshots and a full (but not too detailed) run-thru from dependencies list and configuring/compiling, thru actually using the program to assemble a video from multiple sources, to hitting the big render button to get a finished product. http://lwn.net/Articles/516662/ BTW, that article links the kdenlive user's manual online at kde userbase, and that link *IS* live as I just tested it: http://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual Back to LWN: Teaser for "Intro to kdenlive" from opensource.com, the first of several articles they were doing on it (Nov 16, 2011). This is just the LWN teaser for the first of the opensource.com series, not an LWN feature, but the opensource.com series is six parts (part 1 intro, which I checked and which this parts list comes from, so it's still live, 2 advanced editing techniques, 3, effects and transitions, 4, color correction, 5, audio, 6, workflow and conclusion), which means it should get into some decent detail. http://lwn.net/Articles/467564/ Meanwhile, for a broader picture both in terms of where kdenlive would fit into the process and of other options as well, altho it's a bit dated now, LWN's "Grumpy Editor" series had a three-part series on the whole video editing process (Part 1, capture, 2, editing, 3, dvd authoring), back in late 2007 and early 2008. This is actually the coverage I was remembering. Part 2 covered (obviously an earlier version of) kdenlive, as well as some others. Here's the grumpy editor mainpage, which list those and others. (You might wish to bookmark the page for other reviews if you like these, or if you're familiar with lwn, just remember to check their grumpy editor series if you're looking for something, as I basically did here, altho I remembered this coverage specifically as well.) http://lwn.net/Articles/grumpy-editor/ As I said it's nothing I'm personally involved with, but I believe it's a pretty safe guess that will get you farther than you are now. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
On Qua, 2013-08-07 at 13:18 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-08-07 15:07 (GMT+0100) Sérgio Basto composed: > > > On 2013-08-06 at 23:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down > >> (since > >> Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. > > > rpmfusion ship it for Fedora , > > > repoquery -q kdenlive --nvr > > kdenlive-0.9.6-2.fc19 > > Same system has F19, so I installed this, which uses a newer 0.8.8 mlt > version. Its file picker also only offers the same three file types to open, > none of which I recognize as common video file types. > > >> So far it is just as unintuitive and > >> useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a > >> bunch. > > > have you a better suggestion ? > > I was hoping someone would provide me with either a usable suggestion, or an > explanation what it is I'm missing. in window of project with right click , you can add a clip , and works for my videos , open button is to open projects . Well, you have (in rpmfusion): kmediafactory dvdstyler bombono-dvd openshot and flowblade (this is in package review https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2855#c30 have last src.rpm and spec , I can give you a place to download the rpms for F19 , I'm building it right now ... ) from Fedora itself: pitivi if you try one of than and like it , let me know because I'm still looking one to edit my videos ... Best regards, -- Sérgio M. B. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
On 2013-08-07 15:07 (GMT+0100) Sérgio Basto composed: On 2013-08-06 at 23:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. rpmfusion ship it for Fedora , repoquery -q kdenlive --nvr kdenlive-0.9.6-2.fc19 Same system has F19, so I installed this, which uses a newer 0.8.8 mlt version. Its file picker also only offers the same three file types to open, none of which I recognize as common video file types. So far it is just as unintuitive and useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch. have you a better suggestion ? I was hoping someone would provide me with either a usable suggestion, or an explanation what it is I'm missing. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive
On Ter, 2013-08-06 at 23:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since > Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. rpmfusion ship it for Fedora , repoquery -q kdenlive --nvr kdenlive-0.9.6-2.fc19 > So far it is just as unintuitive and > useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch. have you a better suggestion ? -- Sérgio M. B. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
