Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs

2013-11-08 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 05/11/2013 14:27, Michael wrote:
 Am Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:40:40 + schrieb Anne Wilson
 cannewil...@googlemail.com:
 
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 On 01/11/2013 15:30, Michael wrote:
 What I doubt, is that all are absolutely fine and happy
 with his style.
 
 Please stop assuming that you answer for others.  Clearly you
 don't.
 
 Huh? I never said I answer for others, I just *assume* stuff and I 
 *think* others might be a tad or more annoyed, period. I am not
 the spokesman of all others here, I am just one single guy thinking
 he is (mostly) right. And I guess you think you are right too. So
 where is the difference? That we disagree and only your point can
 be true?
 
The difference is simple.  You assume you know what people think.  I
know without a doubt that people are individuals, and there is no way
of generalising about them.  There's no more to be said about this.

Anne
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs (was: KDE's rough edges... what are your experiences?)

2013-11-07 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Wednesday 30 October 2013 21:59 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

 That's composition.  Spelling is their/there/they're.

Actually, that's grammar. And now I'll STFU ;)

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Thomas Tanghus
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs

2013-11-05 Thread Michael
Am Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:40:40 +
schrieb Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com:

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 On 01/11/2013 15:30, Michael wrote:
  What I doubt, is that all are absolutely fine and happy with
  his style.
 
 Please stop assuming that you answer for others.  Clearly you don't.

Huh? I never said I answer for others, I just *assume* stuff and I
*think* others might be a tad or more annoyed, period. I am not the
spokesman of all others here, I am just one single guy thinking he is
(mostly) right. And I guess you think you are right too. So where is
the difference? That we disagree and only your point can be true?

Michael
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs (was: KDE's rough edges... what are your experiences?)

2013-11-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 03:59:00PM +0100, Michael wrote:

  That's composition. ;-) Spelling is their/there/they're.
 
 Oops, then either the dictionary / wordbook used (dict.leo.org) is
 somewhat inaccurate or I use the german word Schreibstil wrong. :)

I had English advanced classes in Grammar school, and exams were split
into comprehension (understanding text) and composition (writing text).
I got that word from there.

 Either way, what I tried to express there was the style one uses when
 writing. 

I don't think that went amiss. :)
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs (was: KDE's rough edges... what are your experiences?)

2013-11-01 Thread Michael
Am Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:40:04 +0100
schrieb Myriam Schweingruber myr...@kde.org:

 Hi Michael,
 
 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Michael
 michael.the.optim...@gmail.com wrote:
  Am Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:20:15 + (UTC)
  schrieb Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net:
 
  Michael posted on Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:59:12 +0100 as excerpted:
 
 ...
 
 Most of the time I simply skip what Duncan writes, as it usually
 doesn't help me personally, but he sure has a great amount of
 knowledge.

No doubts about his knowledge. And I am fine with your level of
tolerance when it comes to his writing style and of course what you do
with it. As I am new on this list, I have no idea how often he answers
your questions or if you even ask here questions. But that you tend to
ignore / skip his mails entirely does tell me a lot about how much you
like his exuberant mails. ;-) Still, that you do NOT complain about it
is your choice. I did just choose differently, that's it.


 If it annoys you, just don't read it? You don't have to.

Well, that does not scale well if I explicitly ask others about their
opinion about a rather controversial subject. It is hard enough to
accept a thread in the lines of KDE sucks in your own home-yard, to
simply ignore some of the opinions and answers given would be just rude
and (possibly) detrimental to the whole thing too.


 @Duncan: maybe a (very short) section of tl::dr at the top of your
 mails could be useful for many, instead of burying the essential
 information in the length of the mail.

Hum... it sure looks like you like his mails, you even found time to
think about a possible solution. Chances are, because you are
annoyed. Even if just a bit.


 While I know my way around in searching and diagonal reading long
 texts, most people will have a hard time trying to extract the
 relevant information, so why not put the important stuff in a 3-liner
 at the top, and keep the rest for those who enjoy reading you?

Well, his texts are not only long, they are *needlessly* long! Sure, one
could accept that another guy goes two steps up, and one step down,
two steps up and one step down while walking stairs. But he could
talk to that guy too and try to convince him of doing just one step at
a time up when walking the stairs. That would be more economical for
the stair-walking guy and the one watching does not go crazy while
watching. He might even opt in to not watch at all at some point. ;-)
Anyway, I don't see any problem others might have understanding his
texts, they are just repetitive and overly detailed. Finding the small
pieces of information one seeks is not hard, it is just needlessly
time-consuming... and thus: annoying.

regards
Michael
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs

2013-11-01 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 01/11/2013 15:30, Michael wrote:
 What I doubt, is that all are absolutely fine and happy with
 his style.

Please stop assuming that you answer for others.  Clearly you don't.

Anne
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs

2013-10-31 Thread Anne Wilson
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On 30/10/2013 19:44, Michael wrote:
 I guess most people are somewhere in between, skimming/reading my
 
 epistles with varying degrees of impatience.
 I doubt that! :-) I guess most are at least annoyed to a certain 
 degree, but most do not care enough to do anything about it
 either. Ignorance is a bliss, which I don't possess apparently. ;-)
 
 
 
Doubt away!  I skim Duncan's replies, but when you need it, his depth
of information is invaluable.  Many people have cause to thank him.

Early last century one Dale Carnegie wrote a book called How to win
friends and influence people.  Perhaps you should read it.

Anne
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Re: [kde] Spelling style on MLs (was: KDE's rough edges... what are your experiences?)

2013-10-31 Thread Duncan
Myriam Schweingruber posted on Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:40:04 +0100 as
excerpted:

 @Duncan: maybe a (very short) section of tl::dr at the top of your mails
 could be useful for many, instead of burying the essential information
 in the length of the mail.

Thanks.  I mentioned elsewhere but you probably missed it.  I'm /trying/ 
to develop the tl;dr summary habit where size suggests I should use it, 
as I agree it's a (the?) reasonable compromise, but at present I'm afraid 
I miss it more often than I include it. =:^\

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and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman

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