Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Friday 08 February 2013 04:35:41 phanisvara das did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:17:07 -0500 Robert mli...@zoominternet.net wrote: Now the issue I am having is I keep being prompted for the password for kwallet to access my email. The exact text is as follows; you can remove mail accounts that you configurd in kmail by going to systemsettings - personal information and deleting the account from there. unless you do that, KDE will continue to download your mail from those accounts. and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your pw. 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Be circumspect in your liaisons with women. It is better to be seen at the opera with a man than at mass with a woman. -- De Maintenon I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your pw. 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no password to ask from you. to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on the (or any, if you have more than one) allows you to change the password. once you set both to (blank), there's no botheration anymore. as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords are still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a password once your user is logged into KDE. The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user pw, when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab focus so you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake the rf mouse up so you can see the pointer move, find the requester and click once on it. That is kwallet, but a fairly diligent search fails to find a configurater for it. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml It is easier to make a saint out of a libertine than out of a prig. -- George Santayana I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. then you don't have the taskbar-thingy installed. in that case, type kwalletmanager in a command prompt (user, not root), and the management utility should pop up, allowing you to remove the password. -- phani. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your pw. 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no password to ask from you. to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on the (or any, if you have more than one) allows you to change the password. once you set both to (blank), there's no botheration anymore. as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords are still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a password once your user is logged into KDE. The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user pw, when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab focus so you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake the rf mouse up so you can see the pointer move, find the requester and click once on it. That is kwallet, but a fairly diligent search fails to find a configurater for it. Cheers, Gene Did you tell Kmail to store the passwords as plain text in the config files always worked for me . I always turned kwallet off it was a PITA i finally gave up on kmail and this akonadia thingClaws Mail is every bit as good which is where i am now . Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:02:00 +0530 phanisvara das listm...@phanisvara.com wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:17:07 -0500 Robert mli...@zoominternet.net wrote: Now the issue I am having is I keep being prompted for the password for kwallet to access my email. The exact text is as follows; you can remove mail accounts that you configurd in kmail by going to systemsettings - personal information and deleting the account from there. unless you do that, KDE will continue to download your mail from those accounts. There in lies the problem. I do not have kmail installed anymore. There has to be a way to stop kde for doing this. Besides KDE should not be doing this automatically. The programs should be doing the requesting. and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. This is not an option. -- Regards Robert Linux The adventure of a lifetime. Linux User #296285 Get Counted http://linuxcounter.net/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:49:08 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Actually, I think you'll find a lot of folks agreeing with you. The new akonadified kmail is more problems than it's worth, and a lot of former kmail users are just that, FORMER kmail users, as a result. I know I am! I am just trying to understand why KDE feels they need to look and feel like windows and have the system do everything for you. As I'm on gentoo and pretty much totally exterminated both akonadi and semantic-desktop from my system (gentoo's build-from-source, so allows an admin to configure support for optional features such as semantic-desktop and akonadi in or out at build-time, I've configured it OUT!) back in the kde 4.7 era, I've forgotten the details and can't simply run it and look, but the general idea is... I am running Sabayon. I am not yet skilled enough to run Gentoo. Go to your akonadi accounts control (I think it's in kde settings, aka system settings, except they're kde settings, not system settings for the most part, no matter WHAT the name is) and find and delete the mail accounts. That should solve that problem. Thank you very much. I found here the account setting for all my mail accounts and removed them. If you don't need akonadi running for anything else, you may be able to configure it not to start with kde, as well. That will save you the resources it uses. But as I said, it's used by several other programs in the kdepim module now too, and if you are using one of those, you'll probably have to let it run... at least until you can find alternatives to those programs and switch for them too. I see only the following in my setup; akonadi_akonotes_resource_0 Notes Local Folders I am not sure what they do or if I really need them. How does one go about stopping akonadi? If that's not specific enough, hopefully someone else with akonadi still installed can get you something more specific, but that's the general idea, anyway... Thank you very much. You have been very helpful. -- Regards Robert Linux The adventure of a lifetime. Linux User #296285 Get Counted http://linuxcounter.net/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Friday 08 February 2013 11:24:05 P .NIKOLIC did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your pw. 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no password to ask from you. to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on the (or any, if you have more than one) allows you to change the password. once you set both to (blank), there's no botheration anymore. as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords are still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a password once your user is logged into KDE. The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user pw, when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab focus so you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake the rf mouse up so you can see the pointer move, find the requester and click once on it. That is kwallet, but a fairly diligent search fails to find a configurater for it. Cheers, Gene Did you tell Kmail to store the passwords as plain text in the config files always worked for me . I always turned kwallet off it was a PITA i finally gave up on kmail and this akonadia thingClaws Mail is every bit as good which is where i am now . Pete . I have considered claws, but there seems to be no way to import the kmail message corpus. Thats a show stopper as it goes back over 10 years. Thats in the 10Gb range here. Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Marriage is a great institution -- but I'm not ready for an institution yet. -- Mae West I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Friday 08 February 2013 11:28:39 P .NIKOLIC did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your pw. 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no password to ask from you. to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on the (or any, if you have more than one) allows you to change the password. once you set both to (blank), there's no botheration anymore. as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords are still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a password once your user is logged into KDE. The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user pw, when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab focus so you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake the rf mouse up so you can see the pointer move, find the requester and click once on it. That is kwallet, but a fairly diligent search fails to find a configurater for it. Cheers, Gene Go to System settings password user account then click on KDE Wallet top of the page untick Enable the KDE wallet subsystemapply problem of KDE wallet solved . Pete I don't have that either. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Eureka! -- Archimedes I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Friday, 2013-02-08, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 February 2013 11:22:31 phanisvara das did opine: Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. then you don't have the taskbar-thingy installed. in that case, type kwalletmanager in a command prompt (user, not root), and the management utility should pop up, allowing you to remove the password. Not present. Installed it, fails with: gene@coyote:/var/log$ kwalletmanager Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Next? ;-) That seems to be just a warning, coming from usage of a deprecated but still functional API. If you didn't get any further output it most likely means that is started successullly and is now showing up in the system notification area. Probably hidden behind the show more arrow. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
