Re: After upgrade from Debian 11 to Debian 12: plasmoids stopped working.
On Sunday September 24 2023 16:09:57 A. F. Cano wrote: >Maybe the old "System Load Viewer" should be removed? Not everyone run the "latest & supposedly-greatest" KDE version, so no. It would be nice though if the install interface only proposed gadgets that work, or a compatibility selector (let's not forget people who want to download-only something for an older system!). R PS: I have a built-in hardware indicator for system load that doesn't require me to waste CPU cycles on it. It's called fan 8^)
Re: After upgrade from Debian 11 to Debian 12: plasmoids stopped working.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:37:51PM +0200, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Tuesday September 12 2023 15:57:03 A. F. Cano wrote: > > >Another data point: On a Mac Pro, Debian 12 (kde-full 5:142) > >with 2 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPUs E5320 @ 1.86GHz, 4 cores each: > >"Individual Core Usage" -> "Sensor Details" shows all 8 cores. > > > >"Individual Core Usage" works fine > >"System Load" produces no output. > > > >Any idea what the problem could be? I'm reluctant to upgrade my main system > >if things like this are going to break. Can I provide some spefic data that > >might help pinpoint the problem? > > I don't know what backend your plasmoid uses, but 2 things you could try to > see if more traditional utilities also have problems: > > 1) From a shell, run `sensors-detect` (as root, let it run all the tests it > proposes) followed by `sensors`. > > 2) Also from a shell, run `solid-hardware list details` > > R. Apparently the "System Load Viewer" is obsolete. I couldn't make it work. But there is a very similar plasmoid called "System Monitor Plasmoid" that works. WHen downloading it the system gave me a choice of versions. I chose the latest: 2.7 and it works. This is the version by Barry Strong (thanks Barry!). Maybe the old "System Load Viewer" should be removed? Augustine
Re: After upgrade from Debian 11 to Debian 12: plasmoids stopped working.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:37:51PM +0200, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Tuesday September 12 2023 15:57:03 A. F. Cano wrote: > > >Another data point: On a Mac Pro, Debian 12 (kde-full 5:142) > >with 2 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPUs E5320 @ 1.86GHz, 4 cores each: > >"Individual Core Usage" -> "Sensor Details" shows all 8 cores. > > > >"Individual Core Usage" works fine > >"System Load" produces no output. > > > >Any idea what the problem could be? I'm reluctant to upgrade my main system > >if things like this are going to break. Can I provide some spefic data that > >might help pinpoint the problem? > > I don't know what backend your plasmoid uses, but 2 things you could try to > see if more traditional utilities also have problems: > > 1) From a shell, run `sensors-detect` (as root, let it run all the tests it > proposes) followed by `sensors`. > > 2) Also from a shell, run `solid-hardware list details` > > R. Found a bit more: it appears that ksysguard has been obsoleted and is replaced by ksystemstats. Not surprisingly ksystemstats was not installed. As soon as I did "Individual Core Usage" started working. "System Load" and "SysMon" still don't work. Does anyone have some clue as to what additional package might need to be installed? or is this a fundamental incompatibility of those 2 plasmoids and Debian 12 and testing? Thanks. Augustine PS: I don't see my responses in the list. This is the only list I subscribe to where this happens. Does this happen to everybody? Is there a setting that does this? Can I change it?
Re: After upgrade from Debian 11 to Debian 12: plasmoids stopped working.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:37:51PM +0200, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Tuesday September 12 2023 15:57:03 A. F. Cano wrote: > > >Another data point: On a Mac Pro, Debian 12 (kde-full 5:142) > >with 2 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPUs E5320 @ 1.86GHz, 4 cores each: > >"Individual Core Usage" -> "Sensor Details" shows all 8 cores. > > > >"Individual Core Usage" works fine > >"System Load" produces no output. > > > >Any idea what the problem could be? I'm reluctant to upgrade my main system > >if things like this are going to break. Can I provide some spefic data that > >might help pinpoint the problem? > > I don't know what backend your plasmoid uses, but 2 things you could try to > see if more traditional utilities also have problems: > > 1) From a shell, run `sensors-detect` (as root, let it run all the tests it > proposes) followed by `sensors`. Mmm... This seems geared to temp sensors, but here's the output: $ sudo sensors-detect # sensors-detect version 3.6.0 # System: Gateway NV79 [V1.05] (laptop) # Kernel: 6.1.0-12-amd64 x86_64 # Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz (6/37/2) This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions, unless you know what you're doing. Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors. Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): yes Module cpuid loaded successfully. Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595... No VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors... No VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors...No AMD K8 thermal sensors... No AMD Family 10h thermal sensors... No AMD Family 11h thermal sensors... No AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors... No AMD Family 15h thermal sensors... No AMD Family 16h thermal sensors... No AMD Family 17h thermal sensors... No AMD Family 15h power sensors... No AMD Family 16h power sensors... No Hygon Family 18h thermal sensors... No Intel digital thermal sensor... Success! (driver `coretemp') Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor... No Intel 5500/5520/X58 thermal sensor... No VIA C7 thermal sensor...No VIA Nano thermal sensor... No Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe. Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): yes Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'... No Trying family `SMSC'... No Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'... No Trying family `ITE'... No Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'... No Trying family `SMSC'... No Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'... No Trying family `ITE'... No Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports. We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (YES/no): yes Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290... No Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290... No Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290... No Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290... No Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble on some systems. Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): yes Using driver `i2c-i801' for device :00:1f.3: Intel 3400/5 Series (PCH) Module i2c-dev loaded successfully. Next adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 3000 (i2c-0) Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): yes Client found at address 0x50 Handled by driver `at24' (already loaded), chip type `spd' (note: this is probably NOT a sensor chip!) Client found at address 0x52 Handled by driver `at24' (already loaded), chip type `spd' (note: this is probably NOT a sensor chip!) Next adapter: i915 gmbus ssc (i2c-1) Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): yes Next adapter: i915 gmbus vga (i2c-2) Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): yes Next adapter: i915 gmbus panel (i2c-3) Do you want to scan it?
Re: After upgrade from Debian 11 to Debian 12: plasmoids stopped working.
On Tuesday September 12 2023 15:57:03 A. F. Cano wrote: >Another data point: On a Mac Pro, Debian 12 (kde-full 5:142) >with 2 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPUs E5320 @ 1.86GHz, 4 cores each: >"Individual Core Usage" -> "Sensor Details" shows all 8 cores. > >"Individual Core Usage" works fine >"System Load" produces no output. > >Any idea what the problem could be? I'm reluctant to upgrade my main system >if things like this are going to break. Can I provide some spefic data that >might help pinpoint the problem? I don't know what backend your plasmoid uses, but 2 things you could try to see if more traditional utilities also have problems: 1) From a shell, run `sensors-detect` (as root, let it run all the tests it proposes) followed by `sensors`. 2) Also from a shell, run `solid-hardware list details` R.
