[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #9 from Nate Graham  ---
Sorry you don't like the design. I think it is fine the way it is. Moving your
eyes an inch to the right doesn't seem like a huge problem, and if we
duplictaed the default action in the popup, we would certainly get complaints
about the redundancy. If we *removed* the default action and put everything in
the popup, we would get complaints about discoverability and extra required
clicks. Design is a compromise between use cases, and I don't think there is
any way we can change this to accommodate your preferences without regressing
things for everyone else.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread David
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #8 from David  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #7)
> You don't need to click on a vault's list item to select it first. You can
> just click the "Unlock and open" button for whichever vault you want to
> open, which is even faster and more direct than what you are doing in that
> video.

I realize one doesn't need to click the vault to then click the right-side
button, but the point is: one finds a vault by looking at its name. If you are
to open a vault, you must first locate it, and the natural way of doing it is
by following the left side. Once you have visually located it, you then proceed
to open it, and that implies a large jump to the right side and making sure
that your movement still aligns with the vault's space as you move the mouse
there (either that, or a visual inspection as you move the mouse starting from
the right side that the item you're pointing at is the correct one, for which
you need to verify on the left side).

I'm pretty sure that if you setup 3 or more vaults or USB drives and ask random
people to open the one in the middle, they would gravitate towards either the
left-click menu or an awkward move to the right like in the video.

If you are browsing a folder list structure in dolphin or krusader for example,
you don't put the 'expand' or 'open' button at the right, you expect it to be
close to the start of the name rather than make the user first locate the
folder and then move the pointer to the right across the horizontal space that
contains the folder.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #7 from Nate Graham  ---
You don't need to click on a vault's list item to select it first. You can just
click the "Unlock and open" button for whichever vault you want to open, which
is even faster and more direct than what you are doing in that video.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread David
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #6 from David  ---
Created attachment 142971
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=142971=edit
vault_mouse_trajectory

And here's a video so that you can verify that the drop-down is a shorter
trajectory and more visually intuitive compared to the right button if you have
more than 1 vault.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread David
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #5 from David  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #3)
> > But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down, such as USB 
> > storage devices
> Cannot reproduce. Can you attach a screenshot?

My bad, this was also removed, and IMO it was useful too.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread David
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #4 from David  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #3)
> > But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down, such as USB 
> > storage devices
> Cannot reproduce. Can you attach a screenshot?
> 
> > which IMO is easier to click
> This cannot possibly be true. The button shown on the list item requires one
> click, because it's always visible; the buttons in the dropdown necessarily
> require two clicks--one to show the dropdown, another to click on it.

The button is at the right side, which is quite distant from the vault's name
and icon. The dropdown shows at the left, right where the vault's name and icon
are placed. I usually select the vault that I want by visually locating it's
name.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham  ---
> But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down, such as USB 
> storage devices
Cannot reproduce. Can you attach a screenshot?

> which IMO is easier to click
This cannot possibly be true. The button shown on the list item requires one
click, because it's always visible; the buttons in the dropdown necessarily
require two clicks--one to show the dropdown, another to click on it.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread David
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

--- Comment #2 from David  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> It doesn't need to be in the dropdown; the main action which is always
> visible is now "unlock and open". If the dropdown had a duplicate copy of
> whatever action was the main one, that would be redundant, and we would
> rightfully get bug reports about it. :)

But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down (which IMO is easier
to click), such as USB storage devices.

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[Plasma Vault] [Bug 444451] Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"

2021-10-28 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL
 CC||n...@kde.org
 Status|REPORTED|RESOLVED

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
It doesn't need to be in the dropdown; the main action which is always visible
is now "unlock and open". If the dropdown had a duplicate copy of whatever
action was the main one, that would be redundant, and we would rightfully get
bug reports about it. :)

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