[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #12 from Maik Qualmann  ---
Yes, Lightroom... Ok, then the best workaround is to add a new duplicate
"Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject" entry as a sequence before the default entry.

Maik

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #11 from Maik Qualmann  ---
Git commit 3902d36b83a3853a87f27031eae58de81cdd3a2e by Maik Qualmann.
Committed on 19/08/2019 at 19:39.
Pushed by mqualmann into branch 'master'.

fix wrong namespace container in editor after move

M  +34   -18   core/utilities/setup/metadata/advancedmetadatatab.cpp
M  +4-0core/utilities/setup/metadata/advancedmetadatatab.h
M  +21   -20   core/utilities/setup/metadata/namespacelistview.cpp
M  +3-4core/utilities/setup/metadata/namespacelistview.h

https://invent.kde.org/kde/digikam/commit/3902d36b83a3853a87f27031eae58de81cdd3a2e

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread bugzilla_noreply
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

caulier.gil...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #10 from caulier.gil...@gmail.com ---
To Maik comment #8

"@Gilles, do you know an application that uses "Xmp.lr.HierarchicalSubject"
with capital letter (H)and as TAG_XMPSEQ? I think that the 2nd alternative in
our advanced metadata should actually be for Darktable and the capital letter
is just a mistake."

You right. The H capitalized is a mistake :
https://www.exiv2.org/tags-xmp-lr.html

i'm sure that Exiv2 has used 'H' in the past...

But wait a minute... Exiftool use 'H'... ahaha

https://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/XMP.html#Lightroom

Gilles

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Daniel Laidig
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #9 from Daniel Laidig  ---
I did some digging and at least in 2010, Gilles did... ;) See bug 221460
comment 12.

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #8 from Maik Qualmann  ---
@Gilles, do you know an application that uses "Xmp.lr.HierarchicalSubject" with
capital letter (H)and as TAG_XMPSEQ? I think that the 2nd alternative in our
advanced metadata should actually be for Darktable and the capital letter is
just a mistake.

Maik

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #7 from Maik Qualmann  ---
If saved with OK, there are no errors, otherwise other entries can double, I
will fix it. If Darktable actually reads both variants, let digiKam save it as
BAG, so there are no problems in other applications. Both variants are not
possible in the image metadata anyway.

Maik

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #6 from Maik Qualmann  ---
At the moment I have only the Windows version available. But see that double
entries make problems that should not be. I'll watch it tonight.

Maik

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Daniel Laidig
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #5 from Daniel Laidig  ---
I was testing with the 6.2.0 Appimage. Thanks for the info that I can add the
same namespace multiple times. This is certainly an improvement for my current
setup. :)

When looking at the default config for Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject, I noticed
that Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject is set to TAG_XMPBAG and the alternative name
is Xmp.lr.HierarchicalSubject (capitalized) as TAG_XMPSEQ. From what I
understand now, this looks digikam always write the non-capitalized version
only (as Bag) and if not found during reading, it will try to read the
capitalized version as Seq only. Considering that you wrote in comment 1 that
you use the "capitalized alternative Xmp.lr.HierarchicalSubject as Seq" (which
seems not the current behavior any more), doesn't that mean there is another
issue and digikam might not be able to read tags from its own sidecars from
older versions any more?

In any case, while I very much appreciate your comments that help me configure
digikam to be usable for my workflow, I would be very happy if out-of-the-box
compatibility between digikam and other applications is as high as possible. I
guess this would either mean making the reading more fault tolerant or adding
another default entry.

Is as good as possible out-of-the-box compatibility with darktable and other
applications also something you are aiming for or is this something where I
should just tune my config?

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #4 from Maik Qualmann  ---
Which digiKam version do you use? A namespace can exist multiple times since
some versions. Simply create a new "Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject" as "TAG_XMPSEQ"
and move it before the default entry. Then it first tries to read as
"TAG_XMPSEQ" and then falls back to the default entry. The same when writing,
both variants are written.

Maik

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2019-08-19 Thread Daniel Laidig
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

Daniel Laidig  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Daniel Laidig  ---
I stumbled across the same issue yesterday. In an effort to achieve
compatibility between digikam and darktable, I used Settings > Metadata >
Advanced to only enable Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject for tags, only to then find
out that my tags are deleted by a digikam->darktable->digikam roundtrip.

Then I tried the workaround suggested by you, Maik, i.e. creating a new entry
that is a duplicate of Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject but with TAG_XMPSEQ instead
of TAG_XMPBAG and enabling only that one. That seems to make the roundtrip
work, but I guess you might lose tags now if they are stored in a
standard-compliant way.

What darktable does, btw, is to accept both Bag and Seq when reading xmp
sidecars but then to always write the sidecar back using a Seq. Wouldn't this
be an option for digikam as well (reading both, saving as Bag)? I see that the
functions MetaEngine::getXmpTagStringSeq and MetaEngine::getXmpTagStringBag are
almost identical. Why not change them so they try to find the specified item
(Bag or Seq) first but if this not found and there is only the other type, this
one is read instead?

I don't have experience to judge if there would be unintended side effects. But
regardless of what is conforming to the standard, I think compatibility and
avoid data loss is more important.

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2018-12-19 Thread Loukournan29
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

--- Comment #2 from Loukournan29  ---
(In reply to Maik Qualmann from comment #1)
> Darktable stores Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject as Seq. This does not conform to
> the Adobe standard that provides a Bag. We use the capitalized alternative
> Xmp.lr.HierarchicalSubject as Seq. Since I can not determine at the moment
> which program it will use thius variant, I will not change it. Create a new
> entry that corresponds to the Darktable format and deactivate the default
> entry.
> 
> Maik

Thanks Maik for your comment,
I intend to create a new entry, but I lack precise documentation about each
field of an entry. I already try to create a second entry with the same Name,
but digikal cant manage them properly (see bug 402283). Which field DO match
with the corresponding XMP metadata ? Are they casesensitive ?

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[digikam] [Bug 402288] The default Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject setting does not read darktable tags

2018-12-18 Thread Maik Qualmann
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402288

Maik Qualmann  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Maik Qualmann  ---
Darktable stores Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject as Seq. This does not conform to
the Adobe standard that provides a Bag. We use the capitalized alternative
Xmp.lr.HierarchicalSubject as Seq. Since I can not determine at the moment
which program it will use thius variant, I will not change it. Create a new
entry that corresponds to the Darktable format and deactivate the default
entry.

Maik

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