[gwenview] [Bug 386463] Usability issue when moving files

[Andrew Crouthamel]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386463

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--- Comment #6 from Andrew Crouthamel  ---
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[gwenview] [Bug 386463] Usability issue when moving files

[Andrew Crouthamel]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386463

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--- Comment #5 from Andrew Crouthamel  ---
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days.
Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and set the bug
status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still
in NEEDSINFO status with no change in 30 days, the bug will be closed as
RESOLVED > WORKSFORME due to lack of needed information.

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[gwenview] [Bug 386463] Usability issue when moving files

[Henrik Fehlauer]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386463

--- Comment #4 from Henrik Fehlauer  ---
> - an accidental click at the wrong position can reset the selection :
> thus +/- is moderately usable
If this was disabled, how would resetting the selection work?

> - Rectangular selection doesn't work well
Please clarify what you mean by that.

> - files are kept selected : thus we have to unselect them,
> else we move accidentally files
Not sure what you are talking about. Is this the same as in bug 295411?

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> In fact, I think it's a KDE Framework component issue,
> since Dolphin has the same issue.
Unfortunately, Gwenview uses custom code, so the issue is only similar in
concept and won't be fixed by changing KDE Frameworks. In addition, file
management and sorting images are slightly different use cases in terms of
specialization.

(However, patches for rebasing Gwenview's Browse modes on Dolphin's code would
be appreciated, as that would also fix the annoying selection vs. focus
problem. Note that KIO also has the stash:/ kioslave nowadays.)

> GUI developers should observe how users use software,
> i.e. record the screen and look for issues.
At least some developers are very well aware how formal usability testing
works. Nobody would oppose initiatives like an extensive eyetracking study, but
"developers should" and "I will" are two different things. Let me know if you
want to spearhead such an effort and need some tips.

> It's a typical FOSS issue : not enough resources / developers to polish GUI
This has nothing to do with FOSS at all. There are terrible closed source GUIs
and excellent free software GUIs. Also, please keep the discussion in this bug
about the issue at hand. If you want to change how KDE develops software,
propose something on the mailing list.

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[gwenview] [Bug 386463] Usability issue when moving files

[fabrice salvaire]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386463

--- Comment #3 from fabrice salvaire  ---
In fact, I think it's a KDE Framework component issue, since Dolphin has the
same issue.

GUI developers should observe how users use software, i.e. record the screen
and look for issues.

It's a typical FOSS issue : not enough resources / developers to polish GUI

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[gwenview] [Bug 386463] Usability issue when moving files

[Henrik Fehlauer]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386463

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--- Comment #2 from Henrik Fehlauer  ---
I noticed that too when watching users perform selections in Gwenview. This is
mostly supposed to be done in the Browse View, but also the Importer is
affected.

Related to "selecting" in general:
Bug 144547 (Missing feature of selecting pictures while viewing them)
Bug 349402 (Selecting more than 6 images to view causes strange behavior)

Maybe something can be done with tags or stars? I feel this is a valid area for
improvements, however to be honest I don't see resources for doing larger
changes in Gwenview currently. Patches welcome :)

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[gwenview] [Bug 386463] Usability issue when moving files

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386463

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDSINFO
 Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO
 CC||pointedst...@zoho.com

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
It's not totally clear what part of Gwenview you're talking about. Would you
mind writing up detailed Steps To Reproduce or else attaching a screen
recording of the issue?

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