[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Ilya Bizyaev]

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Gerion]

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--- Comment #9 from Gerion  ---
(In reply to Will Chen from comment #8)
> (In reply to Gerion from comment #6)
> > Additionally, what do you think of an extension of the plasmoid?:
> > - On the smartphone: Share some text with KDE Connect.
> 
> The feature overlap could also create a collision in the UI I think. (Or
> have I misunderstood? Is this about Clipboard, or Share?) 

I meant that for the Share option. I though about how convenient it would be to
replace Clipboard by Share.
I, for example, regularly use the clipboard sharing for URLs, which currently
involves theses steps:
1. Long click on Android on the URL.
2. Press copy.
3. Press "PP" in qutebrowser.

Using sharing in the current form would involve:
1. Long click on Android on the URL.
2. Press Share.
3. Select KDE Connect.
4. Mark the text in KWrite.
5. Press Ctrl-C / Rightclick->Copy.
6. Press "PP" in qutebrowser.

> > - The plasmoid on the PC pops up, shows: "Text {xy} was shared. How do you 
> > want to continue: 1. Copy, 2. Open with program 3. Save to file". For the 
> > open with program, maybe some autorecognition works, which opens URLs with 
> > a Browser/Gwenview/... where the default is opening with KWrite etc.
> 
> Efficiency/steps-wise, I think adding a prompt on PC for what to do would
> create mostly the same situation as the current behaviour of popping up
> KWrite. You can already Copy/Save/whatever right away as soon as KWrite pops
> up— I suppose opening with other programs would be half a step less— Can
> Gwenview open web addresses? Or would that only be useful for web browsers?

Yes, Gwenview (most KDE programs) opens URLs directly, if the type is suitable.
For example, clicking on a picture link in KMail opens Gwenview, since KDE has
some autodetection to what MIME type the URL points. Maybe sharing with KDE
Connect does exactly this yet (I have not tried it): Open the best program
suitable, in case of text this would be KWrite.


> > Also, it is possible to share certain part of a text within another app on 
> > Android? For example some intresting parts of a chat message. On Android, I 
> > would long press on that, choose the interesting part and press copy.
> 
> If I understand this correctly, from the menu that says "Copy", there should
> also be/is a "Share" option that lets the text be send to KDE Connect, I
> think.

AFAIK, this option does not exist and since this is Android core functionality,
it is not something that KDE (Connect) can change.

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Will Chen]

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--- Comment #8 from Will Chen  ---
(In reply to Gerion from comment #6)

> Hmm, interesting thought. If I get it right, this is always equal on both 
> sides, isn't it? I'm really interested in a mode:
> - Share only on request from PC to Smartphone.
> - Share always from Smartphone to PC.
> - (Maybe also: Share always from PC to PC.)

I think I *personally* would probably leave the "Clipboard" plugin disabled and
prefer to use the "Share" plugin even if the former did have such a mode, so as
a single user I suppose I don't agree that there needs to be a separate mode.
Well, Unix philosophy and all that, it just seems like a significant amount of
added complexity for not much gain when the "Share" plugin already does much
the same job.

Because I personally wouldn't use it, I suppose I'm not the best person to
comment on the idea. I do think that having some explicit text sharing
capability is better than having none, though, even if the workflow can be
improved.

> Additionally, what do you think of an extension of the plasmoid?:
> - On the smartphone: Share some text with KDE Connect.

The feature overlap could also create a collision in the UI I think. (Or have I
misunderstood? Is this about Clipboard, or Share?) Currently explicit text
sharing on the smartphone already invokes the "Share" plugin. Would it be
replaced with the "Clipboard" plugin, then? So then will the "Share" plugin's
text feature be exposed at all, or basically just dead code? What if the
"Clipboard" plugin isn't set to that mode, or isn't enabled at all? And
personally I think "Explicit text sharing can be configured in the right
(Clipboard) plugin" would be a subjective UX regression for me from "Explicit
text sharing is available by default with the right (Share) plugin"— That may
be again specific to how I would personally prefer to use KDE Connect though.
Will there be two "KDE Connect" options in the Android sharing menu, one for
the "Share" plugin and one for the "Clipboard" plugin, that do basically the
same thing? — Not unresolvable, but I suppose something that should be thought
about.

> - The plasmoid on the PC pops up, shows: "Text {xy} was shared. How do you 
> want to continue: 1. Copy, 2. Open with program 3. Save to file". For the 
> open with program, maybe some autorecognition works, which opens URLs with a 
> Browser/Gwenview/... where the default is opening with KWrite etc.

Efficiency/steps-wise, I think adding a prompt on PC for what to do would
create mostly the same situation as the current behaviour of popping up KWrite.
You can already Copy/Save/whatever right away as soon as KWrite pops up— I
suppose opening with other programs would be half a step less— Can Gwenview
open web addresses? Or would that only be useful for web browsers?

I do think it would look nicer and make it clearer what's happened though.

> Also, it is possible to share certain part of a text within another app on 
> Android? For example some intresting parts of a chat message. On Android, I 
> would long press on that, choose the interesting part and press copy.

If I understand this correctly, from the menu that says "Copy", there should
also be/is a "Share" option that lets the text be send to KDE Connect, I think.

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Roy]

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--- Comment #7 from Roy  ---
FWIW, the Android app now seems to require explicit copying of the clipboard
via a user action, though I think it's a consequence of an API change for
security rather than a deliberate choice. A small system toast appears that
mentions which app has "pasted" (read) from the clipboard upon tapping the menu
item. Prefs at both ends to choose the level of sharing is ideal, and still
relevant to older Android versions.

A bit related, using an app that can type passwords as a keyboard into KDE
Connect's Remote Input interface is better than copy + paste, e.g. KeePassDX.

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Gerion]

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--- Comment #6 from Gerion  ---
(In reply to Will Chen from comment #5)
> This type of functionality is actually already available in the "Share and
> receive" plugin.

Hmm, interesting thought. If I get it right, this is always equal on both
sides, isn't it? I'm really interested in a mode:
- Share only on request from PC to Smartphone.
- Share always from Smartphone to PC.
- (Maybe also: Share always from PC to PC.)

Background: I trust my PC(s) way more than my smartphone and copy passwords on
a regular base on the PC but almost never on the smartphone. However, I think
automatic sharing from the smartphone is more convenient than explicit sharing.

Also, opening the text in KWrite requires one step more for URLs for example,
because you have to copy them in KWrite a second time to paste it in your
browser. Also, it is possible to share certain part of a text within another
app on Android? For example some intresting parts of a chat message. On
Android, I would long press on that, choose the interesting part and press
copy.
Additionally, what do you think of an extension of the plasmoid?:
- On the smartphone: Share some text with KDE Connect.
- The plasmoid on the PC pops up, shows: "Text {xy} was shared. How do you want
to continue: 1. Copy, 2. Open with program 3. Save to file". For the open with
program, maybe some autorecognition works, which opens URLs with a
Browser/Gwenview/... where the default is opening with KWrite etc.)

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

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--- Comment #5 from inbox@willchen.business ---
This type of functionality is actually already available in the "Share and
receive" plugin. On Android, it is exposed via the phone's "Share" context
menu— Select some text, share it with KDE Connect, and KWrite will open on the
Desktop with the text. On Desktop, it is currently exposed by `kdeconnect-cli
--share-text`— E.G. `kdeconnect-cli -d  --share-text "$(xclip -o
-selection clipboard)"` to send the clipboard.

I've opened a MR to add a button in the tray Plasmoid to send the current
clipboard:
https://invent.kde.org/network/kdeconnect-kde/-/merge_requests/508

Personally I don't really see the need to complicate the clipboard plugin by
adding an option for explicit sharing of text. The "Share" plugin, which is
designed specifically for explicit sharing, can already do the same thing if it
is exposed in the UI.

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[bugzilla_noreply]

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--- Comment #4 from ci3...@gmail.com ---
Coming from bug 386568, I want to make a concretization. Would it be possible
to implement for every device this option:


Share the own clipboard with all connected devices:
() always
() on request (a button will be shown)
() never


Default setting will be "on request"?

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Rokas Kupstys]

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--- Comment #3 from ci3...@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 386568 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Simone Gaiarin]

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Mikhail Khvoinitsky]

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--- Comment #2 from Mikhail Khvoinitsky  
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+1 who came to file the same feature request.

I wanted to emphasize the importance of such feature from the security
perspective. It's not some hypothetical threat. Recently, I've found out that
my Samsung Tablet keyboard maintains a clipboard history (which I didn't asked
for) where I was able to find a big list of my passwords (!) which I copied
from KeePassXC on the desktop in the past and which KDE Connect had been
carefully syncing. The clipboard history feature itself is insane, no doubt,
which I've disabled (which wasn't as straightforward as you would expect, it
required some hacks with adb (!!)), but less recklessness from KDE Connect is
much expected. Still, Samsung keyboard flashes your clipboard content if it's
not empty. Who knows which other apps does something nasty with your clipboard.

As far as I can see, this feature has already been implemented on Android
(which is much appreciated) but not on Linux.

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Nick Cross]

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Karl Ove Hufthammer]

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--- Comment #1 from Karl Ove Hufthammer  ---
I was just going to file this exact feature request! I too like the ability to
share the clipboard between devices, but I’m not very comfortable with *every
little thing* (including passwords) I copy to the clipboard automatically being
shared with my phone and all its apps.

I suggest also adding ‘Send clipboard’ to the right-click menu of the tray
icon. If the user has several devices, this would send it to all of the
devices. And/or there could be an additional ‘Send clipboard to’ menu item with
a sub-menu for selecting which device to send the clipboard to.

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[kdeconnect] [Bug 392164] Button for sharing clipboard content

[Nate Graham]

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