[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

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 Resolution|MOVED   |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEEDSINFO   |RESOLVED

--- Comment #11 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

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--- Comment #10 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug
tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with
no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[Richard Parkins]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

--- Comment #9 from Richard Parkins  ---
I reported this bug in October 2016. No attempt was made to investigate it
until December 2018. This is positively insulting to me as a bug reporter. If
requests for further info are not made within a reasonable time there is no
realistic prospect of the bug reporter being able to reproduce the environment
in which the problem was observed. As reported in a previous comment, I no
longer have the Linux distribution on which I saw it, so I cannot determine
whether it is still present.

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

--- Comment #8 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug
tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with
no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[Richard Parkins]

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 Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO  |MOVED

--- Comment #7 from Richard Parkins  ---
This bug report has not been considered for so long (more than six years) that
I have changed my Linux distro in the meantime and I no longer have an Ubuntu
system on which to try to reproduce it. It really is something of an insult to
bug reporters to ask for reproduction information after six years of no action.
Why should I bother to report problems?

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[Justin Zobel]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

Justin Zobel  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO
 Status|REPORTED|NEEDSINFO

--- Comment #6 from Justin Zobel  ---
Thank you for reporting this issue in KDE software. As it has been a while
since this issue was reported, can we please ask you to see if you can
reproduce the issue with a recent software version?

If you can reproduce the issue, please change the status to "REPORTED" when
replying. Thank you!

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[Christoph Feck]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

--- Comment #5 from Christoph Feck  ---
> the upgrade path from Kubuntu 14.04 is still broken

Please test if upgrading to 18.04 works.

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[Richard Parkins]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

Richard Parkins  changed:

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 Status|NEEDSINFO   |REPORTED
 Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO  |---

--- Comment #4 from Richard Parkins  ---
I think NEEDSINFO here is a little unkind. I gave you all the information I
knew how to get about the system at the time. I'm a user, not a developer: I
can only install the software that Kubuntu provides for my system (actually I
can't even do that at the moment since the upgrade path from Kubuntu 14.04 is
still broken). I can't install an unspecified latest version, and to reproduce
the problem I would need to restore my system to its state before the upgrade
(this requires a full hard drive image which of course I don't have) and
install the upgrade again.

I wouldn't expect the problem to show up on a normally running system. It
appears to be specifically triggered by the upgrade. It was hard reproducible
on the first reboot after the upgrade. It disappeared when I rebooted again and
has not reappeared since. This suggests something wrong with the script that
gets executed on the first reboot after the upgrade. Possibly something isn't
being initialised properly or it is trying to replace a file which has already
been opened by another process. The fact that there are several programs which
it can't launch, and others which it can launch, suggests a problem with a
shared library.

In a sense the underlying issue is the unhelpful error message. Presumably
KDEinit got some specific error from some lower level library, but it threw
away that information and just reported that it could not launch the program.
This isn't very helpful for me as a user to work out what to do about it, or
for the KDE developers to work out what was going wrong. If you need info, you
need better error reporting from KDE itself, not info from the user.

Perhaps we should recharacterise this bug as "uninformative error message".

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

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--- Comment #3 from Bug Janitor Service  ---
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug
tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with
no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[CnZhx]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

CnZhx  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO
 CC||z...@cnzhx.net
 Status|REPORTED|NEEDSINFO

--- Comment #2 from CnZhx  ---
(In reply to Richard Parkins from comment #0)
> This problem has appeared since I installed the latest upgrade yesterday.
> The issue appears to be with KDEInit rather than Dolphin. Several
> applications won't launch from the Kickoff Application Launcher, for example
> System Settings, Kate, Konsole, sqliteman (one of mine), 
> 
> The applications are not corrupted: they can be launched from an xterm, or
> (once I have launched one from an xterm) a Konsole window.
> 
> Some other applications will launch, for example FreeCAD, Evolution,
> Dolphin, FireFox, xterm, KPatience, xclock, Character Map, Ark, Calculator,
> KCalc, LibreOffice, 
> 
> Reproducible: Always
> 
> Steps to Reproduce:
> 1. Right click in a directory window
> 2. Mouse press on Actions... and slide to Open Terminal Here
> 
> 
> Actual Results:  
> Sometimes it does nothing: more often it pops up a window saying
> KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'
> 
> When attempting to launch other applications from the Kickoff Application
> Launcher, it either does nothing or pops up a window saying
> KDEInit could not launch ''
> 
> (truncated quote)

@Richard Parkins

Could you reproduce such issue in latest version of Konsole and KDE platform?
If not, cold you please close this bug as resolved?

For your information, I see no such problem on my system, which has the
following environment,
```
openSUSE Tumbleweed: 20181116
KDE Plasma: 5.14.3
Qt: 5.11.2
KDE Frameworks: 5.52.0
KDE Applications: 18.08.3
Kernel: 4.19.1-1-default
```

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[kdelibs] [Bug 369515] KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'

[Elvis Angelaccio]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369515

Elvis Angelaccio  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Product|dolphin |kdelibs
 CC||elvis.angelac...@kde.org
  Component|general |kdeinit
   Assignee|dolphin-bugs-n...@kde.org   |kdelibs-b...@kde.org
Summary|Actions->Open Terminal Here |KDEInit could not launch
   |fails   |'/usr/bin/konsole'

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