[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-10-24 Thread Elvis Angelaccio via KDE Bugzilla
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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-09-01 Thread Viorel-Cătălin Răpițeanu via KDE Bugzilla
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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-08-13 Thread David Faure via KDE Bugzilla
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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-08-13 Thread David Faure via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #27 from David Faure  ---
"Not all platforms support FUSE" is only the argument why we don't use FUSE
_instead_ of our current solution in KIO (like gnome does AFAIK). But I would
say this isn't what is being discussed here, which is rather about an
*additional* KIO-over-FUSE feature.

The reason I don't like it is GUI apps being blocked (for a VERY long time)
when pulling the plug (i.e. losing connection to the server, for whichever
reason).

But if you like it, despite that risk, you can
1) resurrect https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KioFuse
2) use sshfs

I would reassign the bug report to kiofuse if it actually had a bugzilla
product/component.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-08-12 Thread Jason Straight via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #26 from Jason Straight  ---
Right. Not all systems support compositing either, but there it is.

This one single feature lacking in KDE is the only thing that keeps me going
back to nemo/nautilus. Mounting, so I can use other apps, greatly improves my
workflow.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-07-11 Thread Jared Sutton via KDE Bugzilla
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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-15 Thread Leon Maurer via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #25 from Leon Maurer  ---
Yeah, the "not all platforms support FUSE therefore we can't have nice things
anywhere" argument doesn't seem that strong to me.

It's interesting to see denialism about this feature. It'll block! It's counter
productive! The fact is that many people use this type of feature on other
desktops and OSes. If it sucked, we wouldn't be asking for it.

It's particularly frustrating that there are two partially complete (but
abandoned) projects to add this feature. Is there anyone we can throw money at
to fix this?

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-14 Thread Constantine via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #24 from Constantine  ---
(In reply to Thiago Macieira from comment #3)
> While the ioslaves may be run using the FUSE gateway for other people's
> needs, we will not use that in KDE. The foremost reason is that KDE runs on
> systems without FUSE (older Linux and non-Linux systems).

Just make somewhere in systemsettings a checkbox to enable FUSE, which would be
grayed out if it is not supported.

Also, let's look to the truth in the eyes — FUSE is supported on most existing
OS, heck, even Android does! There's no good reason to not implement the most
missing feature of KDE.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-13 Thread Jason Straight via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #22 from Jason Straight  ---
Closing them before suspending isn't that much of a problem, and even waiting
for them to timeout isn't compared to the time it takes to mount via fuse
ftp/sshfs/cifs.mount, etc so I can use an app like Brackets to edit a remote
website, or watch a video with VLC, edit an image with gimp, etc.

As much as I would like for all my favorite apps to be native KDE, they just
aren't.

On the other hand, as feature limited as gnome is, this is one area where they
excel and I can use any apps, be they native gnome or not, with their gvfsd
solution.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-13 Thread Jason Straight via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #23 from Jason Straight  ---
Closing them before suspending isn't that much of a problem, and even waiting
for them to timeout isn't compared to the time it takes to mount via fuse
ftp/sshfs/cifs.mount, etc so I can use an app like Brackets to edit a remote
website, or watch a video with VLC, edit an image with gimp, etc.

As much as I would like for all my favorite apps to be native KDE, they just
aren't.

On the other hand, as feature limited as gnome is, this is one area where they
excel and I can use any apps, be they native gnome or not, with their gvfsd
solution.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-13 Thread Ville Ranki via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #21 from Ville Ranki  ---
(In reply to David Faure from comment #20)

> Even when you then close down the laptop and go home, and upon reopening the
> laptop, any operation on all of these mount points hangs (blockingly!) for 5
> minutes because you lost the connection to the server?

Those hangs are an issue on some lower level components (FUSE/plugins/kernel)
and needs to be fixed there. Personally I haven't seen these for some time, but
I mostly use SSHFS.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-13 Thread David Faure via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #20 from David Faure  ---
"It's so productive to be able to mount ftp, sftp, smb, and others, and access
them reliably from one app to another..." 
Even when you then close down the laptop and go home, and upon reopening the
laptop, any operation on all of these mount points hangs (blockingly!) for 5
minutes because you lost the connection to the server? In my experience when
this happens the application is completely blocked, not even repainting or
anything, which is extremely annoying and counter-productive, isn't it?

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-09 Thread Alexander Schlarb via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #19 from Alexander Schlarb  ---
The best solution for everybody is probably this:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/KioGioBridge

Aside from the fact that the development stalled after KDE 4.1, of course…

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-08 Thread Constantine via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #18 from Constantine  ---
In fact even KDE apps themselves doesn't work without mount point very well.
E.g. Dolphin (4.13.3) neither can show previews for mtp/smb files, nor does
even open embedded terminal (F4 key) terminal in the right place — it being
opened in pseudo-random dir.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-08 Thread Jason Straight via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #17 from Jason Straight  ---
This is a rare thing to say, but this is one feature gnome does right over KDE.
The limitations in using kio are beyond annoying. It's so productive to be able
to mount ftp, sftp, smb, and others, and access them reliably from one app to
another and to simply select the mountpoint in the file browser to re-access
that shared resource.

kiofuse hasn't been touched in forever, and smb4k currently doesn't seem to
work. Even when it does work it can be finicky to get the settings right to
browse the network because it doesn't seem to obey settings for broadcast
network, master browser, etc, correctly; And who wants to mess with that stuff
anyway?

Plus, smb4k only solves the problem for samba [when it works], whereas gvfsd
works with just about anything.

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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-05-08 Thread Jason Straight via KDE Bugzilla
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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-03-14 Thread Constantine via KDE Bugzilla
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[kio] [Bug 75324] Integrate KIO Slaves into file system using FUSE gateway

2016-01-26 Thread Infanta Xavier via KDE Bugzilla
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--- Comment #16 from Infanta Xavier  ---
Sadly kio can be used only by kde apps, not even plain qt apps can't use it :(
.
kio reminds me of IO tower from Tron :D.

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