[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-06-02 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #28 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit 10cad8b7a4721b33c98923beb354e5457b5cc48d by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 02/06/2020 at 10:04.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'krita/4.3'.

[NOT FOR 4.3.0] Remove start position from KisRandomAccessor2

Start posiiton in ctor is not used anywhere, it only causes bugs
like 395861, because some code passes default value (0,0) to it,
which extends extent of the paint device, to the area, which is
not actually modified.

It might also fix some troubles with Transform Tool (not tested).

M  +13   -13   benchmarks/kis_random_iterator_benchmark.cpp
M  +4-6libs/image/KisPrecisePaintDeviceWrapper.cpp
M  +50   -57   libs/image/floodfill/kis_scanline_fill.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/kis_cross_device_color_picker.h
M  +2-2libs/image/kis_outline_generator.cpp
M  +13   -7libs/image/kis_paint_device.cc
M  +8-2libs/image/kis_paint_device.h
M  +10   -10   libs/image/kis_paint_device_strategies.h
M  +15   -15   libs/image/kis_painter.cc
M  +2-2libs/image/kis_painter_blt_multi_fixed.cpp
M  +2-2libs/image/kis_perspectivetransform_worker.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/kis_random_sub_accessor.cpp
M  +4-4libs/image/kis_transform_worker.cc
M  +2-3libs/image/kis_wrapped_random_accessor.cpp
M  +0-1libs/image/kis_wrapped_random_accessor.h
M  +1-1libs/image/krita_utils.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/layerstyles/kis_ls_utils.cpp
M  +2-2libs/image/lazybrush/KisWatershedWorker.cpp
M  +4-4libs/image/lazybrush/kis_lazy_fill_capacity_map.h
M  +3-3libs/image/tests/kis_iterator_benchmark.cpp
M  +4-4libs/image/tests/kis_iterator_test.cpp
M  +3-3libs/image/tests/kis_iterators_ng_test.cpp
M  +2-2libs/image/tests/kis_paint_device_test.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/tests/kis_transform_worker_test.cpp
M  +5-2libs/image/tiles3/kis_random_accessor.cc
M  +1-1libs/image/tiles3/kis_random_accessor.h
M  +2-2libs/ui/tool/strokes/KisMaskingBrushRenderer.cpp
M  +2-2plugins/extensions/layersplit/layersplit.cpp
M  +4-4plugins/extensions/qmic/kis_qmic_simple_convertor.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/embossfilter/kis_emboss_filter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/halftone/kis_halftone_filter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/raindropsfilter/kis_raindrops_filter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/randompickfilter/randompickfilter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/paintops/colorsmudge/kis_smudge_radius_option.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/paintops/hairy/hairy_brush.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/paintops/particle/particle_brush.cpp
M  +3-3plugins/paintops/spray/spray_brush.cpp
M  +2-2plugins/tools/selectiontools/KisMagneticGraph.h

https://invent.kde.org/graphics/krita/commit/10cad8b7a4721b33c98923beb354e5457b5cc48d

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-05-01 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #27 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit 126608b4e7a3047f5694b28572bc306a01faeb75 by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 01/05/2020 at 14:25.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'master'.

[NOT FOR 4.3.0] Remove start position from KisRandomAccessor2

Start posiiton in ctor is not used anywhere, it only causes bugs
like 395861, because some code passes default value (0,0) to it,
which extends extent of the paint device, to the area, which is
not actually modified.

It might also fix some troubles with Transform Tool (not tested).

M  +13   -13   benchmarks/kis_random_iterator_benchmark.cpp
M  +4-6libs/image/KisPrecisePaintDeviceWrapper.cpp
M  +50   -57   libs/image/floodfill/kis_scanline_fill.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/kis_cross_device_color_picker.h
M  +2-2libs/image/kis_outline_generator.cpp
M  +13   -7libs/image/kis_paint_device.cc
M  +8-2libs/image/kis_paint_device.h
M  +10   -10   libs/image/kis_paint_device_strategies.h
M  +15   -15   libs/image/kis_painter.cc
M  +2-2libs/image/kis_painter_blt_multi_fixed.cpp
M  +2-2libs/image/kis_perspectivetransform_worker.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/kis_random_sub_accessor.cpp
M  +4-4libs/image/kis_transform_worker.cc
M  +2-3libs/image/kis_wrapped_random_accessor.cpp
M  +0-1libs/image/kis_wrapped_random_accessor.h
M  +1-1libs/image/krita_utils.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/layerstyles/kis_ls_utils.cpp
M  +2-2libs/image/lazybrush/KisWatershedWorker.cpp
M  +4-4libs/image/lazybrush/kis_lazy_fill_capacity_map.h
M  +3-3libs/image/tests/kis_iterator_benchmark.cpp
M  +4-4libs/image/tests/kis_iterator_test.cpp
M  +3-3libs/image/tests/kis_iterators_ng_test.cpp
M  +2-2libs/image/tests/kis_paint_device_test.cpp
M  +1-1libs/image/tests/kis_transform_worker_test.cpp
M  +5-2libs/image/tiles3/kis_random_accessor.cc
M  +1-1libs/image/tiles3/kis_random_accessor.h
M  +2-2libs/ui/tool/strokes/KisMaskingBrushRenderer.cpp
M  +2-2plugins/extensions/layersplit/layersplit.cpp
M  +4-4plugins/extensions/qmic/kis_qmic_simple_convertor.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/embossfilter/kis_emboss_filter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/halftone/kis_halftone_filter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/raindropsfilter/kis_raindrops_filter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/filters/randompickfilter/randompickfilter.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/paintops/colorsmudge/kis_smudge_radius_option.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/paintops/hairy/hairy_brush.cpp
M  +1-1plugins/paintops/particle/particle_brush.cpp
M  +3-3plugins/paintops/spray/spray_brush.cpp
M  +2-2plugins/tools/selectiontools/KisMagneticGraph.h

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/126608b4e7a3047f5694b28572bc306a01faeb75

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-05-01 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Dmitry Kazakov  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REPORTED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #26 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hehe, great! I will close the bug then. Thanks a lot for testing! :)

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-05-01 Thread Tyson Tan
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #25 from Tyson Tan  ---
Thank you Dmitry, this is amazing! Everything can be selected in a snap now,
and it's faster than anything I've ever used. This is a game changer,
especially for those who use Krita to color their comics. They are going love
it! :D

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-05-01 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #24 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hi, Tyson!

Could you please check this AppImage, the bug should be fixed there:
https://yadi.sk/d/WWxIlX_7rcrNng

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-05-01 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #23 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit 75430a75cdf49b84519b1664c4fdcf3cc93d742b by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 01/05/2020 at 09:44.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'krita/4.3'.

Fix KisScanlineFill not to tounch point (0,0) on every fill

This patch fixes wery slow application of Magic Wand tool on big images.
The slowdown happened because KisScanlineFill write-accessed every dst
device at position (0,0), when initialized random accessors. It resulted
in dst device extent growing too much, therefore a lot of empty pixels
had to be porcessed at the later stages of contiguous selection.

M  +48   -47   libs/image/floodfill/kis_scanline_fill.cpp

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/75430a75cdf49b84519b1664c4fdcf3cc93d742b

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-05-01 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #22 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit ab20233c0a89704f06c0077d9e63bb45eb1379ba by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 01/05/2020 at 09:42.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'master'.

Fix KisScanlineFill not to tounch point (0,0) on every fill

This patch fixes wery slow application of Magic Wand tool on big images.
The slowdown happened because KisScanlineFill write-accessed every dst
device at position (0,0), when initialized random accessors. It resulted
in dst device extent growing too much, therefore a lot of empty pixels
had to be porcessed at the later stages of contiguous selection.

M  +48   -47   libs/image/floodfill/kis_scanline_fill.cpp

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/ab20233c0a89704f06c0077d9e63bb45eb1379ba

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #21 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hi, Tyson!

Thank you for your explanation. With your test image I seem to be able to
reproduce the problem now. I'll check in details tomorrow :)

PS:
Btw, your new splash screen is really nice! :)

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Dmitry Kazakov  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|wishlist|normal

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Tyson Tan
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #20 from Tyson Tan  ---
Hi Dmitry,

Thank you for the second patched version. It was not until 3 AM today was I
able to download the file from Yandex. I think it could be network slowdown in
Europe during busy hours with all those pandemic induced bandwidth usage.

I use Linux, but I maintain a second drive just for test purpose and flashing
firmwares. Maybe you can give me appimage links from now on to save me a reboot
and the eyesores looking at Windows Cleartype. :D

Now the patched version (DK2). It both worked and did not work for me:

For small pictures, it was definitely working. It selects an area in a blink.
Fastest speed I ever saw.

For large pictures it was a very different story. 
Use the the 4.3 splash for example, and select a small color patch:
https://tysontan.com/temp/free_software/kiki/electrichearts_20200221A_kiki_b.png
It was really, really slow. Much slower than the DK1 build. It doesn't matter
where I clicked or how large a color patch is, it'd just slowdown to the same
amount. Krita felt like it was taking the whole image into consideration when
calculating the effective area. Meanwhile the Fill tool can still fill an area
in an instant. This picture has no gradient color, all hard-edged, there is no
way it needed to look at the whole picture for a small patch of waterlily.

But if I crop the large splash under 1000x1000, then when I select the same
area as above, it'd be selected in an instant.

Enabling Antialiasing in DK1 build was able to speed up 100 to 200 ms. But in
DK2 when the image was large, enable or disable it does make much difference,
because it was just to slow to begin with.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #19 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hi, Tyson!

Could you test this package:
https://yadi.sk/d/R4HMo5aQEhVXiQ

It makes "make-aliased" pass about 3 times faster. But it applies only to a
case when "Anti-alias" checkbox is **unchecked***.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #18 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
I mean you need to **enable** antialiasing to make selection faster (which is a
bit counter-intuitive).

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #17 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hi, Tyson!

The problem is that we do already use "Fast Mode" there :)

I have one question, do you have "Anti-aliasing" checkbox enabled? I have
checked that code an it seems like **unchecking** it makes selection speed
about 3-4 times slower (due to additional pass).

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Tyson Tan
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #16 from Tyson Tan  ---
Hi Dmitry, I just tested them both on Windows and Linux. The difference was
night and day. Thank you! 

While your patch improved the speed significantly, it's still very slow compare
to other apps. However, Krita's Fill Tool has a "Fast Mode"  checkbox, it fills
as fast as other tools. That's the speed we expect from a "Magic Wand" tool.
Can we get that option for Krita Contiguous Selection Tool? Thanks!

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-30 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #15 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hi, Tyson!

If you need an AppImage, now there is a prebuilt version:

https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Krita_Stable_Appimage_Build/727/

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-29 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #14 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Hi, Tyson!

Could you please check this package (are you using Windows?):
https://yadi.sk/d/mxpMq5O_BZUPMw

It has both selection fixes, so creating a flood selection for your test image
takes about 100ms.

Is the speed of the package okay or it is still slow for you?

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-29 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #13 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit f6d6dd661fd00cf5b566face1dc4895508a83bee by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 29/04/2020 at 15:54.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'krita/4.3'.

Don't update selection mask when it is not set as overlay

It removes about 200ms delay on creating any kind of selection

M  +7-0libs/image/kis_selection_mask.cpp
M  +3-0libs/image/kis_selection_mask.h

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/f6d6dd661fd00cf5b566face1dc4895508a83bee

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-29 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #12 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit 036be0f51229f83ba06b39a4cd27769899775f65 by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 29/04/2020 at 15:53.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'master'.

Don't update selection mask when it is not set as overlay

It removes about 200ms delay on creating any kind of selection

M  +7-0libs/image/kis_selection_mask.cpp
M  +3-0libs/image/kis_selection_mask.h

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/036be0f51229f83ba06b39a4cd27769899775f65

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-29 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #11 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit ca1399e9bb2886b1ad1378ddcc719dc65957d722 by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 29/04/2020 at 15:07.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'krita/4.3'.

Remove 500ms delay between selection creation and cretion of marching ants

This delay was originally introduced to not interfere with painting,
which (in 2013) was done directly over the ants. Now we have overlay
mask functionality, therefore this delay is not needed anymore.

There is still a short visible delay. It is cause but the outline
genration algorithm is really slow. Perhaps we should also try to
fix speed when working on bug 419240.
Related: bug 419738

M  +1-1libs/ui/kis_selection_decoration.cc

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/ca1399e9bb2886b1ad1378ddcc719dc65957d722

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-29 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #10 from Dmitry Kazakov  ---
Git commit c416124848d52a9b82ef275e24e3aaa1f45a3004 by Dmitry Kazakov.
Committed on 29/04/2020 at 15:04.
Pushed by dkazakov into branch 'master'.

Remove 500ms delay between selection creation and cretion of marching ants

This delay was originally introduced to not interfere with painting,
which (in 2013) was done directly over the ants. Now we have overlay
mask functionality, therefore this delay is not needed anymore.

There is still a short visible delay. It is cause but the outline
genration algorithm is really slow. Perhaps we should also try to
fix speed when working on bug 419240.
Related: bug 419738

M  +1-1libs/ui/kis_selection_decoration.cc

https://invent.kde.org/kde/krita/commit/c416124848d52a9b82ef275e24e3aaa1f45a3004

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-29 Thread Dmitry Kazakov
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Dmitry Kazakov  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Assignee|krita-bugs-n...@kde.org |dimul...@gmail.com
 CC||dimul...@gmail.com

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-25 Thread Tymond
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #9 from Tymond  ---
Thanks for measuring!
Tbh, from your table it looks like it's a bit slower than Gimp and adds two
500ms delays, not one - not the 500x500 example where Krita is ridiculously
slow, and in all columns it is very similar to value (Gimp + 1000).

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2020-04-25 Thread Aaron Lavarnway
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Aaron Lavarnway  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||i...@ralek.art

--- Comment #8 from Aaron Lavarnway  ---
Created attachment 127868
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=127868=edit
Selection tool

To add to this, I did some testing to the best of my ability, and came up with
the attached figures for each program at 3 different canvas sizes.

I tried to make all tests as consistent as possible, with the same color space
and same file. Single layer, 0 or no threshold/fuzzy, no post-expansion or
feathering.
Measured from the first frame the mouse is down, to the first frame of the
marching ants showing up.

Krita has both a 'standard' and -500ms version listed as someone told me in a
different bug that it has a self-imposed 500ms delay for an unknown reason.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2019-10-04 Thread Tyson Tan
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #7 from Tyson Tan  ---
That'd be Great! On behalf of my fellow artists from PS and SAI, hopefully we
can get this under 250ms someday. That'll allow them to work comfortably in
Krita.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2019-10-04 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #6 from Boudewijn Rempt  ---
I just checked, and Gimp 2.10 is actually slower than Krita. I did notice we
don't multithread the floodfill painter, and if that were possible, we might be
able to make it faster without dropping the algorithm and trying for something
new. (Not that that would be easy: we already have optimized everything we
could out of it...)

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2019-09-21 Thread wolthera
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

wolthera  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|normal  |wishlist
 CC||griffinval...@gmail.com

--- Comment #5 from wolthera  ---
I am setting this to wishlist considering that while it is annoying, it would
require rewriting the floodfill algorithm.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2018-10-03 Thread Tyson Tan
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

--- Comment #4 from Tyson Tan  ---
(In reply to Tymond from comment #3)
> Krita version: 4.2.0-pre-alpha (git 5120b70)
> QT version: 5.9.3
> GPU: Nvidia GeForce 940M, using OpenGL
> Windows 10
> Gimp version: Gimp 2.8
> 
> 
> 
> I checked the test image in the size of the original and resized 2x (scaled
> to 7016 px) and 4x (14032 px)to properly measure the lag.
> 
> 1) 1x: Gimp - instant (less than 0.6s), Krita: 1.5 s? not instant (nearly,
> but the delay is more visible than in Gimp)
> 
> 2) 2x: Gimp - 1.7s, Krita 3.8s
> 
> 3) 4x: Gimp - 5s, Krita 12s (my first try made my PC unresponsive, and the
> second (after restarting Krita) took 40s, but every other took around 12s)
> 
> 
> To sum up: Magic Selection Tool from Gimp is around 2x faster than Krita's
> Contiguous Selection Tool.

Thank you for the comparison testing! :)

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2018-10-02 Thread Tymond
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Tymond  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||investigated, triaged
 CC||tamtamy.tym...@gmail.com

--- Comment #3 from Tymond  ---
Krita version: 4.2.0-pre-alpha (git 5120b70)
QT version: 5.9.3
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 940M, using OpenGL
Windows 10
Gimp version: Gimp 2.8



I checked the test image in the size of the original and resized 2x (scaled to
7016 px) and 4x (14032 px)to properly measure the lag.

1) 1x: Gimp - instant (less than 0.6s), Krita: 1.5 s? not instant (nearly, but
the delay is more visible than in Gimp)

2) 2x: Gimp - 1.7s, Krita 3.8s

3) 4x: Gimp - 5s, Krita 12s (my first try made my PC unresponsive, and the
second (after restarting Krita) took 40s, but every other took around 12s)


To sum up: Magic Selection Tool from Gimp is around 2x faster than Krita's
Contiguous Selection Tool.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2018-06-30 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Boudewijn Rempt  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Boudewijn Rempt  ---
Weird, it's completely instant on my system. I'm not sure what more we could
do, we already spent a couple of rounds optimizing the flood-fill algorithm,
which is what this uses.

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[krita] [Bug 395861] Contiguous Selection Tool is too slow

2018-06-25 Thread Christoph Feck
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395861

Christoph Feck  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|CONFIRMED   |UNCONFIRMED
Summary|dffgfgfgfg  |Contiguous Selection Tool
   ||is too slow
 Ever confirmed|1   |0

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