[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Torsten Wohlfarth (TUXEDO) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||twohlfarth@tuxedocomputers. ||com --- Comment #13 from Torsten Wohlfarth (TUXEDO) --- Remove the package im-config, then X11 ist starting, also with maliit-keyboard installed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 S. Christian Collins changed: What|Removed |Added CC||s_chriscoll...@hotmail.com --- Comment #12 from S. Christian Collins --- On some systems, maalit-keyboard prevents Plasma X11 session from logging in (Wayland is unaffected). SDDM just freezes after entering the password. I have experienced this on two systems running KDE neon User Edition, but am unable to replicate in VirtualBox. Related bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maliit-keyboard/+bug/2039721 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 --- Comment #11 from Sergio --- Let's see if this helps testing and as a consequence the consolidation of the development of Maliit. Currently there are many issues, that I would like to summarize as follows: 1. Maliit looks like a keyboard for a mobile phone or tablet. It has alphanumeric characters, and it lets you write texts, with localization. As is it appears in no way ready for "convergent" devices, such as powerful tablets or dual in ones laptops where you may or may not be using a detachable keyboard. On these devices the expectation is that in lack of a physical keyboard you should be able to carry out most activities (though with limited ergonomics) on the virtual one. Unfortunately, with Maliit you cannot use accelerators, terminals, nor most KDE applications that depend on keys such as CTRL, ALT, ESC, TAB, etc. I personally have a dual in one laptop, and it is totally useless in KDE without its physical keyboard attached. It is not even possible to deliver a presentation from a projector attached tablet, since you do not have ESC to exit full screen. Other DEs have OSKs that seem to be in better shape for these tasks. 2. Maliit does not make clear its goals: does it want to remain a phone-like keyboard or does it want to support terminal layouts? This is fundamental to know, because if Maliit is unwilling to support "terminal" layouts, then either: (i) another solution is needed; or (ii) each individual application will need to provide its own keyboard overlay with the keys it needs. This is what applications designed for mobile phones regularly do. For instance Termux adds a bar over the Android alphanumeric keyboard and emacs is going to do the same. I do not think that this approach is the best one for devices where you could have a proper "terminal" OSK, since it leads to a wild inconsistency among the different applications, but it would still be better than nothing. 3. Maliit documentation is missing or very much out of date. If you go to https://maliit.github.io/documentation/ most links are missing or point to information that is explicitly declared as old. So even if the Maliit framework could enable developing a terminal layout, the *how* is going to remain totally unknown to most. Point 3 is probably where NEON could help most, by packaging the pieces of documentation that are available and still relevant. In perspective, KDE should probably have its own, internally developed OSK, being this a key functionality of the desktop with today's emergence of many dual mode devices sitting midway between tablets and laptops. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Carlos De Maine changed: What|Removed |Added CC||carlosdema...@gmail.com --- Comment #10 from Carlos De Maine --- i've added git master versions to all editions. there is a little bit of activity upstream so lets if that helps a bit. i'll test over the next days. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Scarlett Moore changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sgmo...@kde.org --- Comment #9 from Scarlett Moore --- This affects Kubuntu ( *Ubuntu) as well. The maliit in archive will completely crash plasma. Leaving an unusable system. I had to remove it from seed and thus we have no working on screen keyboard. Can we please depend on something that works, I am open to suggestions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Björn Tantau changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bugs.kde.org@s.bjoern-tanta ||u.de -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 --- Comment #8 from Sergio --- To better frame my question: The development of Malitt seems to be halted 2 years ago (at least referring to github and the "framework" component. A tiny bunch of more recent commits exists for the "keyboard" component). The recent commits seems to be related mostly to the removal of older features. The status of the documentation pages is at best mixed (roadmap page is 404, older roadmap still indicates Qt5 as a work in progress and catch up of Qt4), developers page declares itself outdated and most entries that should be links are not. Main issue is that there is no indication at whether and how the OSK can be extended with special keys that are indispensable for using many applications (CTRL, ESC, ALT). Without such extendibility, using the kosole, but also other less text oriented applications is impossible. Specifically, it is unclear if there should be a "terminal" layout with these keys or if the OSK is meant to remain purely alphabetic with an overlay bar with the extra chars appearing only when needed. To the best of my understanding the situation on gnome with the OSK is much better, but it is unclear to me if there is a freedesktop standard making the gnome keyboard usable on KDE or not. There should also be a Qt native OSK, but again it is unclear to me if this has been integrated in some way in a framework making it usable at the DE level. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 soredake changed: What|Removed |Added CC|katyaberezy...@gmail.com| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Sergio changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sergio.calleg...@gmail.com --- Comment #7 from Sergio --- I see many (open) issues about Maliit, but I cannot understand if Maliit is the single on screen keyboard that works on plasma or if there are other ones to test... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED CC||n...@kde.org Ever confirmed|0 |1 Keywords||usability -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 --- Comment #4 from Nathan <2gd4...@gmail.com> --- I temporarily switched to the unstable repo and manged to install maliit-keyboard with its dependancies without any issues. I could not get it to work but it has installed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 --- Comment #3 from Harald Sitter --- We kinda need it for plasma mobile anyway, which I guess is why we have it unstable? May as well put it into release. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 --- Comment #2 from Jonathan Riddell --- We don't typically package stuff that isn't KDE since we're a KDE package. But this is an infrastructure package and we can't easily point to snaps/flatpaks/appimages that might replace it and we already package it for unstable so maybe we should. What think you Harald? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 soredake changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ndrzj1...@relay.firefox.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Nicolas Fella changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bhus...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[neon] [Bug 434038] Please provide an updated version of Maliit that is usable
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434038 Nicolas Fella changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nicolas.fe...@gmx.de --- Comment #1 from Nicolas Fella --- It's packaged for Neon unstable, but apparently not for stable -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
