[plasmashell] [Bug 373131] plasmashell freezes irretrievably every few minutes -- needs to be killed

[Arisbel Hechavarría Rojas]

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--- Comment #32 from Arisbel Hechavarría Rojas  ---
Hello, now in Debian testing (buster) I have same error.

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[sedrubal]

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--- Comment #31 from sedrubal  ---
@ Kestutis: As you can read above, this one is a dup of bug 373427 and as you
can read there, it was fixed with xorg-x11-server-1.19.1 ;)

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[Kestutis]

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--- Comment #30 from Kestutis  ---
Hi, fresh install of Stretch RC1 x64  on Vostro 1700 with Nvidia G84M [GeForce
8600M GT] using nouveau drivers. 
Plasmashell freezing every few minutes, but like others , I was able to use
krunner to kill and restart plasmashell.
What I did (pure luck, i'm  noob here) was, restarted into single mode (killing
sddm from other session Ctrl+Alt+F1 didnt work, as sddm restarted right away
for some reason)
I ran 'X -configure' to generate xorg.conf file, as there was none in /etc/X11/
and copied it to this directory. Restarted laptop, and running for second day
without hickup.
I'll try to attach my xorg.conf, so developers might find the cause, or a fix.
if you need more information, please tell me HOW to do it, as I said I am noob.

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--- Comment #29 from Kestutis  ---
Created attachment 103685
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xorg file

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[plasmashell] [Bug 373131] plasmashell freezes irretrievably every few minutes -- needs to be killed

[David Edmundson]

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 373427 ***

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--- Comment #27 from kilian.cavalotti.w...@gmail.com ---
Enforcing DRI3 indeed solves the issue, but it generates recurring artifacts
where parts of the screen seem to flicker until they're repainted. SO it's a
workaround at best, but not a solution.

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--- Comment #26 from David Edmundson  ---
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Rolan's GDB trace

Copying and pasting the result of a private email thread with Roland.

He had exact the same backtrace as Stefan in 373697
(attached anwyay)

and enforcing DRI3 did resolve the issue. Despite using an Intel driver not an
ATI one.

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Video sequence that demonstrates this bug

After doing some research with the intention to find a way to reproduce this
bug I'm not anymore convinced that this is not a KDE bug.

(1) plasmashell crashes on KDE window operations like closing a window, but
only if there is activity in the system tray. I could not crash plasmashell
reproducible when there was no activity in the system tray, also it DOES crash
randomly without an obvious reason (but maybe it's still related to system tray
activity, because there are often things like notification popups). I've
attached a short video sequence to demonstrate the bug. Have a look at the file
transfer indicator in the second part of the video - it stops when plasmashell
crashed.

(2) Nothing like this happens when closing a GTK window or when using Cinnamon
as desktop manager

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[plasmashell] [Bug 373131] plasmashell freezes irretrievably every few minutes -- needs to be killed

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--- Comment #24 from Adriano Vilela  ---
Has this actually been resolved upstream? I'm running xserver-common version
1.19.0-3 (Debian unstable) and I'm still affected by this. If I force the use
of DRI3 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (I'm using the radeon driver), the problem goes
way. However, this causes another, worse problem: when I resize the window of a
GTK application, my plasma desktop goes crazy with all sorts of artifacts,
windows flashing, etc. When this happens, I can switch to the other virtual
desktops using the Pager applet, but I cannot go back to the virtual desktop
containing the resized GTK application.

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[David Edmundson]

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--- Comment #23 from David Edmundson  ---
*** Bug 373697 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Christoph Feck]

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--- Comment #22 from Christoph Feck  ---
Who said that it is fixed? Has it actually been reported to xorg developers
yet? Comment #18 just mentions a crash fix, which is unrelated to a freeze.

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--- Comment #21 from k...@tmp.dau-sicher.de ---
Please change status since this bug seems not to be resolved with
xserver-xorg-core_1.19.0-3_amd64.deb and xserver-common_1.19.0-3_all.deb.

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--- Comment #20 from k...@tmp.dau-sicher.de ---
Subscribe... still freezes on 1.19.0-3.

Debian Stretch with HD Graphics 520 (Latitude 7270).

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--- Comment #19 from thflo...@gmail.com ---
Unfortunately annoying bug did not disappear.

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--- Comment #18 from thflo...@gmail.com ---
There is hope now:  
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23847025#25
[quote]xorg-server (2:1.19.0-3) unstable; urgency=medium
...
  * Cherry-pick upstream commit d6da2086951,
Revert "damage: Make damageRegionProcessPending take a damage not a
drawable". Fixes a crash caused by trying to free an invalid pointer.
Closes: #847025, #848321.

 -- Emilio Pozuelo Monfort   Fri, 16 Dec 2016 19:39:45
+0100[/quote]
Greetings
Tom

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[David Edmundson]

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Not much we can do about it. 

We have to wait to communicate with the Xorg drivers, and we have to except
them to work.

Thanks for doing the investigation.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 373131] plasmashell freezes irretrievably every few minutes -- needs to be killed

[arne anka]

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--- Comment #16 from arne anka  ---
well, downgrading isn't an option for me.
but after putting the settings given at the comment of

11-25-2016, 05:18 AM 

at 

> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/lags-and-freezes-on-ati-rs880-%5Bradeon-hd-4290%5D-with-new-xf86-video-ati-7-8-0-a-4175594206/

into my xorg.conf (need a custom one anyway), today for the first time in weeks
I did not experience those freezes.

not sure, how much KDE the issue is -- I see this with plasmashell and chromium
(though that could be a consequence of plasmashell issues).

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Downgrading xserver-xorg-core to 1.18.4-2 indeed seems to fix the issue.

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[Syd Alsobrook]

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--- Comment #14 from Syd Alsobrook  ---
(In reply to Syd Alsobrook from comment #12)
> The new versions are:
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon:amd64 1:7.8.0-1+b1
> xserver-xorg-core:amd64 2:1.19.0-2

This were the wrong version numbers. The freeze was happening with those
versions.

I worked all of today without having to restart plasmashell. The versions in
use today are:

xserver-xorg-video-radeon:amd64 1:7.8.0-1
xserver-xorg-core:amd64 2:1.18.4-2

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I can confirm the exact same behavior here, on an Intel-based system.
Same workaround works (switching to VT and back) for a few minutes, before the
next freeze.

xserver-xorg 1:7.7+18
xserver-xorg-core 2:1.19.0-2
xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.7+18
xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.10.4-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-libinput 0.22.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.9.2-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.9.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.33.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-video-all 1:7.7+18
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu 1.2.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:7.8.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus 1:1.5.3-1+b2
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.4-1+b5
xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917+git20161105-1+b1
xserver-xorg-video-mach64 6.9.5-1+b2
xserver-xorg-video-mga 1:1.6.4-2+b1
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic 1:1.2.9-1+b2
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.13-1+b1
xserver-xorg-video-qxl 0.1.4+20161126git4d7160c-1
xserver-xorg-video-r128 6.10.1-2+b1
xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:7.8.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-video-savage 1:2.3.8-2+b1
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx 1:1.4.6-2+b1
xserver-xorg-video-trident 1:1.3.7-2+b1
xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.3.4-1+b2
xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:13.2.1-1+b1


plasma-dataengines-addons 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-desktop 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-desktop-data 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-discover 5.8.3-1
plasma-discover-common 5.8.3-1
plasma-framework 5.28.0-1
plasma-integration 5.8.4-1
plasma-nm 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-pa 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-runners-addons 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-scriptengine-javascript 4:16.08.3-1
plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba 4:4.14.2-1
plasma-wallpapers-addons 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-widget-networkmanagement 0.9.3.6-1
plasma-workspace 4:5.8.4-1

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--- Comment #12 from Syd Alsobrook  ---
(In reply to thflorek from comment #10)
> Many thanks for your hints, Syd.
> Let us hope, that this nasty bug will soon be fixed.

You are welcome, I am sure it will be soon.

The system I am having the issue with has a readeon graphics card, at work. My
home system is an Interl and is not having the issue. I back reved the xorg
driver but that was late on Friday. I'll report more on Monday. If you are also
radeon, go back the the previous driver and see what happens. Might be sooner
than I can report.

The new versions are:
xserver-xorg-video-vesa:amd64 1:2.3.4-1+b2
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev:amd64 1:0.4.4-1+b5
xserver-xorg-video-radeon:amd64 1:7.8.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-mouse:amd64 1:1.9.2-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-kbd:amd64 1:1.9.0-1+b1
xserver-xorg-input-evdev:amd64 1:2.10.4-1+b1
xserver-xorg-core:amd64 2:1.19.0-2

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Many thanks for your hints, Syd.
Let us hope, that this nasty bug will soon be fixed.

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Many thanks for your hints, Syd.
Let us hope, that this nasty bug will soon be fixed.

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--- Comment #9 from Syd Alsobrook  ---
You do not need to relogin.

Alt-F2 brings up krunner.
Run "pkill -f plasmashell"

Alt-F2 again:
Run "plasmashell"

Repeat as needed.

Sometimes is works for a few hours, others a few minutes.

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--- Comment #8 from thflo...@gmail.com ---
I wait no longer than about two minutes, then my patience expires.
Afterwards I change runlevels via terminal and login again, sometimes not only
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--- Comment #7 from advocatux  ---
>Here login sometimes works, sometimes only after restarting runlevel 5, 
>sometimes login stops after kde icon on black background appeared but not 
>reaching plasma desktop.

@thflorek, my login works every time, and about the kde logo on black
background, only once it kept like hanged for several minutes but it reached
plasma desktop eventually.

How much time do you wait when that event happens to your machine?

>Did you use some special command to get the software info you posted?

No, it's just some info extracted from .xsession-errors

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Regarding @advocatux's workaround:
Here login sometimes works, sometimes only after restarting runlevel 5,
sometimes login stops after kde icon on black background appeared but not
reaching plasma desktop.
@advocatux, just out of curiosity:
Did you use some special command to get the software info you posted?

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--- Comment #5 from advocatux  ---
I'm suffering this bug too, but there's a quick workaround until someone finds
and fixes the root cause.

When the freeze happens, change to a tty (v.g. Ctrl+Alt+F1) and then go back to
the graphic session (v.g. Alt+F7) and everything will work normal, at least for
a while. Then repeat the process.

OpenGL vendor string:   X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.46.0 /
4.8.0-1-amd64, LLVM 3.9.0)
OpenGL version string:  3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 13.0.2
OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30
Driver: R600G
GPU class:  NI
OpenGL version: 3.3
GLSL version:   3.30
Mesa version:   13.0.2
X server version:   1.19
Linux kernel version:   4.8
Requires strict binding:no
GLSL shaders:   yes
Texture NPOT support:   yes
Virtual Machine:no

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--- Comment #4 from thflo...@gmail.com ---
No, @arne anka, here is no SSD built-in.

Some detailed info on my rig:

CPU~Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7400
Kernel: 4.8.12-towo.1-siduction-amd64
HDD: 2000.4GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.0 drivers: nouveau
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2

kde-plasma-desktop   5:91 
kdeplasma-addons-data4:5.8.4-1
libkf5plasma5:amd64  5.28.0-1 
libkf5plasmaquick5:amd64 5.28.0-1 
libplasma-geolocation-interface5 4:5.8.4-1
libplasma3   4:4.14.26
plasma-dataengines-addons4:5.8.4-1
plasma-desktop   4:5.8.4-1
plasma-desktop-data  4:5.8.4-1
plasma-framework 5.28.0-1 
plasma-integration   5.8.4-1  
plasma-nm4:5.8.4-1
plasma-pa4:5.8.4-1
plasma-runners-addons4:5.8.4-1
plasma-scriptengine-javascript   4:16.08.3
plasma-theme-oxygen  4:5.8.4-1
plasma-wallpapers-addons 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-widget-cwp1.11.1-1 
plasma-widget-folderview 4:16.04.1
plasma-widgets-addons4:5.8.4-1
plasma-workspace 4:5.8.4-1
plasma-workspace-wallpapers  4:5.8.4-1
plasma-workspace-wayland 4:5.8.4-1

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--- Comment #3 from Syd Alsobrook  ---
I can confirm this issue.

I have two machines at the same patch level, one Radeon, one Intel video. The
Intel system does not exhibit this issue.

Debian Sid
Kernel: 4.8.0-1-amd64
xserver-xorg-video-radeon: 1:7.8.0-1+b1-amd64
kdeplasma-addons-data: 4:5.8.4-1-all
libkf5plasma5:amd64: 5.28.0-1-amd64
libkf5plasmaquick5:amd64: 5.28.0-1-amd64
libplasma-geolocation-interface5: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
libplasma3: 4:4.14.26-1-amd64
plasma-applet-redshift-control: 1.0.17-1-all
plasma-dataengines-addons: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-desktop: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-desktop-data: 4:5.8.4-1-all
plasma-discover: 5.8.3-1-amd64
plasma-discover-common: 5.8.3-1-all
plasma-framework: 5.28.0-1-amd64
plasma-integration: 5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-mediacenter: 5.7.3-1-amd64
plasma-nm: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-pa: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-runner-installer: 3.0.2-1+b1-amd64
plasma-runner-telepathy-contact: 15.08.3-1-amd64
plasma-runners-addons: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-scriptengine-javascript: 4:16.08.3-1-amd64
plasma-scriptengine-python: 4:4.11.13-2-all
plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba: 4:4.14.2-1-amd64
plasma-scriptengine-webkit: 4:4.11.13-2-amd64
plasma-theme-oxygen: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-wallpapers-addons: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-widget-folderview: 4:16.04.1-1-amd64
plasma-widget-lancelot: 4:4.14.2-1-amd64
plasma-widget-menubar: 0.2.0-2-amd64
plasma-widget-message-indicator: 0.5.8-3-amd64
plasma-widget-smooth-tasks: 1flupp0~hg20120610-2+b1-amd64
plasma-widgets-addons: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-workspace: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64
plasma-workspace-wallpapers: 4:5.8.4-1-all
plasma-workspace-wayland: 4:5.8.4-1-amd64

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[plasmashell] [Bug 373131] plasmashell freezes irretrievably every few minutes -- needs to be killed

[arne anka]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373131

--- Comment #2 from arne anka  ---
@thflorek: do you have an SSD?
I am trying to figure out if this is related to that hardware change

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[plasmashell] [Bug 373131] plasmashell freezes irretrievably every few minutes -- needs to be killed

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373131

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--- Comment #1 from thflo...@gmail.com ---
I confirm @arne anka's findings on my install.
Debian unstable, Fully upgraded.
Kernel: 4.8.11-towo.3-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.8.4

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