[plasmashell] [Bug 417776] Icon for Minimize all Windows and Show Desktop widgets should not always be monochrome/symbolic when in a panel

2020-02-19 Thread Sadi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417776

--- Comment #5 from Sadi  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #4)

> Unfortunately there is no way for a Panel to know if it's being used as a
> dock, a taskbar, a global menubar, a pull-out widget drawer, or whatever.
In that case, there's no other way, I agree. But I thought that it was possible
to distinguish between "panel" and "dock" because when I right-click the one on
the left Latte context menu shows "Dock Settings..." at the bottom, and "Panel
Settings..." for the one on the top.

> I actually agree with you that with a thick macOS/Unity style dock, it is
> nicer to have colorful large widget icons. However this is also kind of
> inconsistent since the system tray icons will always be monochrome.
In that case users should only use system tray in the "panel" and not in the
"dock".

> You may need to delete ~/.cache/plasma* afterwards.
I've already solved this by removing "user.svgz", but out of curiousity I also
tried deleting cache and using "user.svgz" with only 64px and 48px user-desktop
images removed: it didn't make any difference - actually even replacing them 
with color 64px and 48px user-desktop images instead of just leaving blank
didn't prevent showing a blank area initially. Anyway no problem for me
anymore. Thanks.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 417776] Icon for Minimize all Windows and Show Desktop widgets should not always be monochrome/symbolic when in a panel

2020-02-18 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417776

--- Comment #4 from Nate Graham  ---
(In reply to Sadi from comment #2)
> I fully understand that widget icons should always be monochrome/symbolic in
> the panel irrespective of panel thickness.
> 
> I think maybe a better solution could be achieved - if possible - if this
> can be made conditional - i.e. if it is a dock and not a panel, then a
> colorful icon from the current icon theme should be used instead like the
> app launchers in that dock (for instance, as I use Latte Dock in Unity
> layout, I can see that I have a top "panel" and a left "dock"; and some
> users may have a Mac-style bottom dock as well).
Unfortunately there is no way for a Panel to know if it's being used as a dock,
a taskbar, a global menubar, a pull-out widget drawer, or whatever. It is just
a generic container for holding widgets. In the past, we roughly approximated
what you wanted by having things change their visual style according to
thickness, on the logic that taskbars and global menubars would be on thin
panels and their users would want everything monochrome, and docks would be on
thick panels and their users would prefer colorful icons. But in practice it
didn't seem to work out and we kept getting bug reports about the icons
changing style based on panel thickness and now people thought it was weird.

I actually agree with you that with a thick macOS/Unity style dock, it is nicer
to have colorful large widget icons. However this is also kind of inconsistent
since the system tray icons will always be monochrome. We wrestled with this
conundrum and in the end settled on the current imperfect solution of just
always using monochrome icons no matter the thickness.

(In reply to Sadi from comment #3)
> I'd like to add that editing "user.svgz" and removing the larger (64px and
> 48px) user-desktop icons from it *almost* achieved the desired result. But I
> saw consistently blank space until I hovered on it to display the standard
> color user-desktop icon, which I could overcome only by removing the file
> "user.svgz" altogether. That's fine for me as a workaround, but I think
> perfect solution would be as I've suggested above.
You may need to delete ~/.cache/plasma* afterwards.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 417776] Icon for Minimize all Windows and Show Desktop widgets should not always be monochrome/symbolic when in a panel

2020-02-18 Thread Sadi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417776

--- Comment #3 from Sadi  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)

> If this bugs you, you can always edit
> /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons/user.svgz and remove the
> unwanted icons from it, which will make itt fall back to using colorful
> icons for larger sizes.

I'd like to add that editing "user.svgz" and removing the larger (64px and
48px) user-desktop icons from it *almost* achieved the desired result. But I
saw consistently blank space until I hovered on it to display the standard
color user-desktop icon, which I could overcome only by removing the file
"user.svgz" altogether. That's fine for me as a workaround, but I think perfect
solution would be as I've suggested above.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 417776] Icon for Minimize all Windows and Show Desktop widgets should not always be monochrome/symbolic when in a panel

2020-02-18 Thread Sadi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417776

--- Comment #2 from Sadi  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> We've been asked numerous times by a large number of users to use only
> symbolic icons for widgets on panels. Previously, the style of the icon
> (symbolic vs colorful) was determined with the panel thickness, but we got
> many many complaints about this, so we are now moving towards the current
> always-symbolic style.

I fully understand that widget icons should always be monochrome/symbolic in
the panel irrespective of panel thickness.

I think maybe a better solution could be achieved - if possible - if this can
be made conditional - i.e. if it is a dock and not a panel, then a colorful
icon from the current icon theme should be used instead like the app launchers
in that dock (for instance, as I use Latte Dock in Unity layout, I can see that
I have a top "panel" and a left "dock"; and some users may have a Mac-style
bottom dock as well).

So maybe you can consider this as a feature request for further improvement of
the excellent looks and appearance of KDE.

> If this bugs you, you can always edit
> /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons/user.svgz and remove the
> unwanted icons from it, which will make itt fall back to using colorful
> icons for larger sizes.

Thank you very much for the tip.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 417776] Icon for Minimize all Windows and Show Desktop widgets should not always be monochrome/symbolic when in a panel

2020-02-17 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417776

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Target Milestone|--- |1.0
 Status|REPORTED|RESOLVED
Summary|Icon for Minimize all   |Icon for Minimize all
   |Windows and Show Desktop|Windows and Show Desktop
   |widgets |widgets should not always
   ||be monochrome/symbolic when
   ||in a panel
  Component|General |Theme - Breeze
   Assignee|plasma-b...@kde.org |visual-des...@kde.org
 CC||n...@kde.org,
   ||plasma-b...@kde.org
Product|kdeplasma-addons|plasmashell
 Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
We've been asked numerous times by a large number of users to use only symbolic
icons for widgets on panels. Previously, the style of the icon (symbolic vs
colorful) was determined with the panel thickness, but we got many many
complaints about this, so we are now moving towards the current always-symbolic
style.

If this bugs you, you can always edit
/usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons/user.svgz and remove the unwanted
icons from it, which will make itt fall back to using colorful icons for larger
sizes.

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