[plasmashell] [Bug 455104] Please consider not entering a space character when space bar is pressed to wake up the login screen

2022-06-20 Thread Jiří Wolker
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455104

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--- Comment #5 from Jiří Wolker  ---
(In reply to Rodney Gedda from comment #4)
> In fact, pressing any character key inputs that character, not just space.
> 
> So I would recommend using any keyboard input to "wake up" first then land
> you in the password input field.
> 
> How many people would actually want to start typing in their password before
> they can see the characters being entered?

I strongly disagree with you. I am one of the people who just sit down at the
computer and type in the password while the screen is off (or showing the clock
with password field hidden), if I think it is safe.

I am a bit more comfortable with just typing the password, without doing
anything else. If your suggestion would become implemented, it could take me
probably weeks to re-learn the login procedure. For me, it is “reflex action”.
I do not think about that I am going to enter the password. I simply see the
login screen on my computer, type the password and hit return as if it would be
a single operation.

My suggestion is: Add an option to the system settings for that. Maybe three
options: type immediately everything, ignore whitespace chars, and do not type
the first char (when the password field is hidden).

And there is also another reason for not-ignoring the first keypress: With some
screens, it really takes ages (relatively: tens of seconds) to bring them back
to working state when they are turned off using DPMS. Imagine the user that
presses a key, waits for the screen to show the password field and then typing
the password instead of just typing it and letting the screen to start up while
they are typing. When done frequently, it can take a lot of time. There is one
operating system that does this thing in the worst possible way: You press a
key, then the user must wait for the password field and only then the operating
system responds to the user's input. When the password is typed before the
field is shown, some characters are dropped or even typed at wrong position
(!).

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455104] Please consider not entering a space character when space bar is pressed to wake up the login screen

2022-06-10 Thread Rodney Gedda
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455104

--- Comment #4 from Rodney Gedda  ---
In fact, pressing any character key inputs that character, not just space.

So I would recommend using any keyboard input to "wake up" first then land you
in the password input field.

How many people would actually want to start typing in their password before
they can see the characters being entered?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455104] Please consider not entering a space character when space bar is pressed to wake up the login screen

2022-06-10 Thread Rodney Gedda
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455104

--- Comment #3 from Rodney Gedda  ---
Hi Raphael and Nate,

Raphael raises a valid concern, but I don't think it applies in this case.

When the lock screen is on or the system is asleep, pressing space wakes the
system up *and* enters a space character into the password field. It should
land you into the password field with no characters pre-entered.

> escape, enter, ctrl, shift or something.

Yes, just tested this and these other keys do exactly what space should do -
wake the system up and land you in the password field with no characters
entered.

Rod

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455104] Please consider not entering a space character when space bar is pressed to wake up the login screen

2022-06-10 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455104

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--- Comment #2 from Nate Graham  ---
It's probably pretty rare for people to have a password starting with a space,
but yeah, that's a valid concern in principle.

Still, the request doesn't seem totally unreasonable to me.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455104] Please consider not entering a space character when space bar is pressed to wake up the login screen

2022-06-10 Thread Raphaël Jakse
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455104

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--- Comment #1 from Raphaël Jakse  ---
This would eat the space also for people who's password starts with a space,
which could be very confusing. Maybe another solution would be to display a
message suggesting to press a key that don't normally produce a character to
"wake up" the login screen? like escape, enter, ctrl, shift or something.

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