[plasmashell] [Bug 455950] Widget pop-ups don't have close buttons, so older users have trouble figuring out how to close them

2022-07-05 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED

--- Comment #13 from Nate Graham  ---
Cool. For now let's mark this as a duplicate of Bug 367815 since that's clearly
a real issue that people run into. And then let's prioritize fixing it, and
after that, we can see if it's good enough for your users.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 367815 ***

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455950] Widget pop-ups don't have close buttons, so older users have trouble figuring out how to close them

2022-07-02 Thread David Chmelik
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

--- Comment #12 from David Chmelik  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #11)
> Got it, that makes sense. So if we fix that, do you think it would be
> enough? If so this is a duplicate of Bug 367815.

For me, yes; for users such as mentioned I'd have to wait & see.  By time they
tell me (sometimes email minutes/hours later) and then by time I check (if not
immediately) sometimes they found a way (select some other area) or I explain. 
I think of drop-down widgets more like  normally-closable programs in a tiling
window manager (xmonad, etc., when arranged as tabs) and though they haven't
used one (and I never learned to like those) they probably do also...

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455950] Widget pop-ups don't have close buttons, so older users have trouble figuring out how to close them

2022-07-02 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

--- Comment #11 from Nate Graham  ---
Got it, that makes sense. So if we fix that, do you think it would be enough?
If so this is a duplicate of Bug 367815.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455950] Widget pop-ups don't have close buttons, so older users have trouble figuring out how to close them

2022-07-02 Thread David Chmelik
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

--- Comment #10 from David Chmelik  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #9)
> Do these users have difficulty figuring out how to close normal menus? I ask
> because the UX is very similar: you click on a thing to open a popup
> adjacent to it, then you can close that popup by clicking on the same thing
> or by clicking somewhere outside of the popup.

No: we learned that in Windows 3.1, but isn't very similar: if a menu is open
and you select a blank part of a menu-bar, the menu closes, but if a widget is
open and you select a blank part of the panel, nothing happens.  That's why
they've asked me dozens times and maybe always will (and why I forget if I'm
very tired.)

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455950] Widget pop-ups don't have close buttons, so older users have trouble figuring out how to close them

2022-07-02 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

--- Comment #9 from Nate Graham  ---
Do these users have difficulty figuring out how to close normal menus? I ask
because the UX is very similar: you click on a thing to open a popup adjacent
to it, then you can close that popup by clicking on the same thing or by
clicking somewhere outside of the popup. Do the users have trouble with this
too?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 455950] Widget pop-ups don't have close buttons, so older users have trouble figuring out how to close them

2022-07-02 Thread David Chmelik
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455950

David Chmelik  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Widget pop-ups don't have   |Widget pop-ups don't have
   |close buttons, so   |close buttons, so older
   |"0-dots-in computers"   |users have trouble figuring
   |people have trouble |out how to close them
   |figuring out how to close   |
   |them|

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