[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
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[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
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[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #7 from Arnaudv6 --- You're right, so OK, no external browser. In my personnal opinion, any platform that lives with outdated QT can tolerate living with outdated trojita : trojita may dump Qtwebkit. But Trojita should turn to any of QTextBrowser/Qtwebengine for security. Arnaudv6 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #8 from Elvis Angelaccio --- Archlinux switched to the new qt5-webkit, it works fine with trojita. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #9 from Elvis Angelaccio --- (In reply to Elvis Angelaccio from comment #8) > Archlinux switched to the new qt5-webkit, it works fine with trojita. Actually, I spoke too soon :/ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381353 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #3 from Arnaudv6 --- "There is absolutely no need to run multi-process monstrousity of chromium just to render HTML mail." I feel just the opposite : I compiled qtwebengine for qupzilla and rssguard, and I feel doomed when forced to compile qtwebkit -as an addition for trojita- which is no lightweight. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Thomas Lübking changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|major |normal --- Comment #4 from Thomas Lübking --- Before this turns into a flamewar: Actually™, both are ridiculuously fat. Also (but not only) given that Trojitá is a mail client and not a web browser. One should not use html for mails itfp. and the vast majority of html-only mails are indeed spam. For the rest, QTextBrowser is probably capable of sufficiently rendering them. Since Jan feels required to ultimately support both khtml forks, the result will probably look like a plugin driven system with the (available anyway) QTextBrowser as defaulting failsafe. This would also cover for the various "Whoops, setEcmaEnabled() is effectively noop. What do you mean, we interpret redirections? No, disabling forms isn't supported." security flaws in the webengines that one could imagine... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #5 from Arnaudv6 --- I should very much like trojita to dump any html engine, and instead offer to open mail in external browser. It is indeed rare that I have to open a html mail, but when needed, I should like the html engine to be feature complete, so I don't have to guess whether or not valuable info just don't get rendered. QTextBrowser is fine by me IF we have the choice of opening a mail in external browser. Please just don't let qtwebkit a required dependency :-) Thanks ! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #6 from Jan Kundrát --- Opening an HTML e-mail in an external viewer won't work because the majority of web browsers do not support stuff like the cid: URL scheme which is a must for dealing with HTML mail. I agree that a perfect solution for 2016 is offering both QtWebKit, QWebEngine and QTextBrowser implementations as plugins. Patches which make this happen are welcome. However, arguing for this on Bugzilla won't make it happen any sooner. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Arnaudv6 changed: What|Removed |Added CC||arnau...@free.fr -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Jan Kundrát changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED --- Comment #1 from Jan Kundrát --- We'll have to support both because we care about older Linux distributions (right now, we support building against Qt 5.2). In addition to that, Trojita requires certain features which only became available in the 5.6 webengine (custom URL delegates, and detailed request filtering, for example). Patches which make this happen are welcome. Also please note that QtWebKit is still available in Qt 5.6, they just stopped producing tarballs and the default `init-repository` build setp skips webkit. It is still getting patches at the Qt project. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Konstantin Tokarev changed: What|Removed |Added CC||annu...@yandex.ru --- Comment #2 from Konstantin Tokarev --- QtWebKit is coming back: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.qt.devel/26208 There is absolutely no need to run multi-process monstrousity of chromium just to render HTML mail. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
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[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #3 from Arnaudv6 --- "There is absolutely no need to run multi-process monstrousity of chromium just to render HTML mail." I feel just the opposite : I compiled qtwebengine for qupzilla and rssguard, and I feel doomed when forced to compile qtwebkit -as an addition for trojita- which is no lightweight. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Thomas Lübking changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|major |normal --- Comment #4 from Thomas Lübking --- Before this turns into a flamewar: Actually™, both are ridiculuously fat. Also (but not only) given that Trojitá is a mail client and not a web browser. One should not use html for mails itfp. and the vast majority of html-only mails are indeed spam. For the rest, QTextBrowser is probably capable of sufficiently rendering them. Since Jan feels required to ultimately support both khtml forks, the result will probably look like a plugin driven system with the (available anyway) QTextBrowser as defaulting failsafe. This would also cover for the various "Whoops, setEcmaEnabled() is effectively noop. What do you mean, we interpret redirections? No, disabling forms isn't supported." security flaws in the webengines that one could imagine... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #5 from Arnaudv6 --- I should very much like trojita to dump any html engine, and instead offer to open mail in external browser. It is indeed rare that I have to open a html mail, but when needed, I should like the html engine to be feature complete, so I don't have to guess whether or not valuable info just don't get rendered. QTextBrowser is fine by me IF we have the choice of opening a mail in external browser. Please just don't let qtwebkit a required dependency :-) Thanks ! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #6 from Jan Kundrát --- Opening an HTML e-mail in an external viewer won't work because the majority of web browsers do not support stuff like the cid: URL scheme which is a must for dealing with HTML mail. I agree that a perfect solution for 2016 is offering both QtWebKit, QWebEngine and QTextBrowser implementations as plugins. Patches which make this happen are welcome. However, arguing for this on Bugzilla won't make it happen any sooner. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 andreas.sturmlech...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||andreas.sturmlechner@gmail. ||com --- Comment #13 from andreas.sturmlech...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Jan Kundrát from comment #12) > Trojita still requires QtWebKit. > ... > Hey, I'm on Gentoo, too, and it's buildable :). We are rapidly cutting down on QtWebKit revdeps and trojita is now one of very few unconditional ones left. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #14 from Tobias Leupold --- I would really like to help here, but I fear messing with QtWebKit/QtWebEngine is beyond my coding skills ... Please save Trojitá! I use it almost daily and I love it. It would be shame if it was removed (from Gentoo) some day due to obsolete dependencies! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Tobias Leupold changed: What|Removed |Added CC||tobias.leup...@gmx.de --- Comment #10 from Tobias Leupold --- Are there any news about this? I just setup a new Gentoo installation and just compile Trojitá – and QtWebkit is pulled as a dependency. Using QtWebEngine instead would be nice, as I need it anyway as a dependency for Falkon. And if you ever used Gentoo, you know that neither building QtWebkit nor QtWebEngine is real fun ;-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #11 from Francesco Turco --- @Tobias: my use case is identical to yours. Falkon, Gentoo and QtWebEngine. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #12 from Jan Kundrát --- Trojita still requires QtWebKit. There was a very preliminary patch for adding WebEngine, but it got stalled. Patches are welcome; please note that they are not ultra-trivial (we're using custom URL schemes for IMAP access, we filter out the "regular internet" for privacy reasons, and we massage the view to fit into an external scroll area). Hey, I'm on Gentoo, too, and it's buildable :). Anyway, if you would like to see this happening, please contribute. You can find the old patch in Gerrit along with some review comments which were never addressed. https://gerrit.vesnicky.cesnet.cz/r/946 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Espen Sandøy Hustad changed: What|Removed |Added CC||es...@ehustad.com --- Comment #23 from Espen Sandøy Hustad --- My take on porting to qtwebengine can be found here: https://invent.kde.org/pim/trojita/-/merge_requests/1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #24 from Tobias Leupold --- A big THANK YOU for working on this and for keeping Trojitá alive!!! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Richard Homonnai changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ch...@rpgfiction.net -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #22 from Tobias Leupold --- And it's gone in Gentoo :'-( -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Pavel changed: What|Removed |Added CC||a...@thurston.ru --- Comment #15 from Pavel --- Both Trojita and QtWebkit entered their pre-removal phase in Gentoo, I guess there's no more manpower to manage Trojita anymore? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #16 from Tobias Leupold --- If it's so hard to make a transition to QtWebEngine ... does Trojita really need a/the fully-blown monster HTML engine? What about khtml? It's only about displaying HTML emails, no? Before seeing Trojita disappear, I'd rather kick out HTML viewing completely and add a button "view HTML in a browser" or such! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #17 from Andreas Sturmlechner --- (In reply to Tobias Leupold from comment #16) > What about khtml? It's only about displaying HTML emails, no? KHTML is dead and only exists in Frameworks 5 as a porting aid. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #18 from Tobias Leupold --- Well okay ... in a pinch, I'd stick to the minimal HTML subset Qt itself can render or whatever ... all is better than letting trojita die. There's no passable alternative (if you don't want/need KMail). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #19 from Jan Kundrát --- The update I gave in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299#c12 is unfortunately still the most recent piece of news I can share. Sorry, absolutely ENOTIME from my side at this time, but I've heard that the QtWebEngine should support all of the features (including full URL scheme delegation that we rely on). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Alec Moskvin changed: What|Removed |Added CC||al...@gmx.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Thomas Rohloff changed: What|Removed |Added CC||v10la...@myway.de --- Comment #20 from Thomas Rohloff --- (In reply to Jan Kundrát from comment #1) > we care about older Linux distributions Would be nice if you would care about modern Linux distributions, too: Gentoo masked qtwebkit a a pe-removal step. There are rumors Suse removed it already and other distributions will follow. (In reply to Jan Kundrát from comment #6) > Opening an HTML e-mail in an external viewer won't work because the majority > of web browsers do not support stuff like the cid: URL scheme What about trojita saving the html to /tmp, then opening it with an external browser from there? I don't know the codes of Trojita but shouldn't codes for such actions be there as Trojita does exactly that when opening an email attachment? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Matt Whitlock changed: What|Removed |Added CC||k...@mattwhitlock.name --- Comment #21 from Matt Whitlock --- As of 2 Aug 2021, Gentoo has hard-masked Trojitá due to unpatched security vulnerabilities in QtWebkit. Of course I can manually unmask the ebuilds and eventually copy them into a local repo when Gentoo deletes them, but I fear it's only a matter of time before someone figures out a remote-code-execution vulnerability that's exploitable via Trojitá's HTML email viewer, and with no further updates to QtWebkit indefinitely, running Trojitá is going to become a liability. I second the sentiment that I would prefer to continue using Trojitá even without support for rendering HTML mail parts. Maybe QtWebkit can be ripped out and replaced with nothing if it's too hard to switch to QtWebEngine? No other mail clients are even remotely usable. Trojitá isn't perfect, but it's the best there is. :( (In reply to Thomas Rohloff from comment #20) > What about trojita saving the html to /tmp, then opening it with an external > browser from there? That doesn't work because there would be no way to pass attached parts to the external browser (e.g., for images). Jan mentioned this in Comment 6. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Arnaudv6 changed: What|Removed |Added CC||arnau...@free.fr -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Jan Kundrát changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED --- Comment #1 from Jan Kundrát --- We'll have to support both because we care about older Linux distributions (right now, we support building against Qt 5.2). In addition to that, Trojita requires certain features which only became available in the 5.6 webengine (custom URL delegates, and detailed request filtering, for example). Patches which make this happen are welcome. Also please note that QtWebKit is still available in Qt 5.6, they just stopped producing tarballs and the default `init-repository` build setp skips webkit. It is still getting patches at the Qt project. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Konstantin Tokarev changed: What|Removed |Added CC||annu...@yandex.ru --- Comment #2 from Konstantin Tokarev --- QtWebKit is coming back: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.qt.devel/26208 There is absolutely no need to run multi-process monstrousity of chromium just to render HTML mail. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
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[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
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[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #8 from Elvis Angelaccio --- Archlinux switched to the new qt5-webkit, it works fine with trojita. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #9 from Elvis Angelaccio --- (In reply to Elvis Angelaccio from comment #8) > Archlinux switched to the new qt5-webkit, it works fine with trojita. Actually, I spoke too soon :/ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381353 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 Francesco Turco changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ftu...@fastmail.fm -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[trojita] [Bug 365299] make transition from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365299 --- Comment #7 from Arnaudv6 --- You're right, so OK, no external browser. In my personnal opinion, any platform that lives with outdated QT can tolerate living with outdated trojita : trojita may dump Qtwebkit. But Trojita should turn to any of QTextBrowser/Qtwebengine for security. Arnaudv6 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
