Re: [kde-community] GSoC Application Deadline is Feb. 19! Get your ideas in ASAP
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > Q : why to write a google document if a wiki page exists (or vis versa) ? > Why duplicate work ? Due to spam attack KDE wikis are locked down for edits, See [1] Thanks! [1] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2016q1/002237.html -- Bhushan Shah http://bhush9.github.io IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:47:12 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 15:35:01 Martin Graesslin wrote: > ... > > > I can turn that 180 degree around and argue that we are currently too > > narrow minded to get new people in and are not doing great. Hey look all > > the awesome work with Plasma 5 and Wayland. We are doing desktop, > > desktop, desktop. Have a new mobile shell. And where are the devs? Where > > are the people following in that pretty clear direction? > > > > So apparently having the direction seems not to work. People don't follow. > > So maybe we are too narrow? Lose the people who are actually out there and > > do hip stuff? > > If you say "desktop, desktop, desktop", yes, that's too narrow. > We suggest desktop, PLUS cross-platform applications (that's not a focus > right now) PLUS cross-platform libraries (putting even more emphasis on > KF5). I think those two can get us a lot of new users and hopefully > developers. That's what we have been doing the last few years, so where are they? Where are the devs taking our application to mobile, etc. etc. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] GSoC Application Deadline is Feb. 19! Get your ideas in ASAP
So right url of wiki page is : https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2016/Ideas Q : why to write a google document if a wiki page exists (or vis versa) ? Why duplicate work ? Gilles Caulier 2016-02-15 7:17 GMT+01:00 Valorie Zimmerman : > Ooops, I used the GCi ideas page, rather than GSoC: > https://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2016/Ideas > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > wrote: > > We like to make the application at least one day early, and our ideas > > page is part of what supports our application. Please make our > > position strong, and set yourself up to get a great student to mentor > > this summer! > > > > For now, Google Doc: > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k1ESLkh6-0Hz4rGR02yEasjjx0_Kz12Y_6SZR3AWMVU/edit?usp=sharing > > > > We'll transfer those to the wiki page at > > https://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2016/Ideas before the > > applications close. The wiki page can have ideas added and modified > > right up until student application deadline, but we need it full of > > ideas now, in order that our application be accepted. > > > > Please, NOW. > > > > And sub to KDE-Soc-Mentor list if you are going to mentor. > > > > Valorie > > > > -- > > http://about.me/valoriez > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:57:56 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I > > believe it has suffered lately as the cohesion inside KDE became less. > > My gut feeling is that this should go in the mission. > > > > > I would suggest a sentence like the following: > > > “KDE aims to offer complete, well-integrated solutions – while > > > connecting > > > different platforms, devices and online services.” > > > > That sounds good to me. > > To me too, but I still miss the reference that it is about software with > graphical user interfaces (GUI's can also have gesture or voice input etc.), > which Olaf seems to imply too. I can only repeat my advice: please don't close doors for KDE by focusing on GUI. There is a world beyond GUI and KDE partially already entered it. Don't close it. > I mean, we are not targetting e.g. sensor networks built from 8bit uCs > communicating to some big online server, with no user intervention (which > would fit that description too), or are we ? Please ask yourself the following question: what if a project inside KDE started to do it? What would happen with the project? Would they stay in or would they leave KDE? I understand that you want to draw a line to define what KDE is. The danger here is that this will always only work to exclude things. Drawing the line is not easy. Just right now in your last mail you redefined GUI to include speech recognition so that the line would cover that. Dangerous, just dangerous. By leaving so much open for interpretation your drawing a line doesn't work. So go from the other side. Look at where KDE might be going with it's own projects and everything where it might go must be inside the line. And then you realize that the line doesn't make much sense. If you draw the line to exclude you must be willing to kick projects out, otherwise it doesn't make sense. If you don't kick them out and keep the line to exclude projects coming in you create a two class society, a project hostile to incorporating new projects. Both are things I don't want KDE to be. I don't want my projects being kicked out because they might not do GUI. Neither do I want to be part of a community which is excluding projects which do not fit, although KDE itself has projects which fit. Thus: don't mention GUI in the vision. Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:57:18 PM CET Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Does that make sense to you guys? > And most importantly: Who'd be up for joining the program team? As I regularly complain: count me in ;-) Cheers Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] GSoC Application Deadline is Feb. 19! Get your ideas in ASAP
Ooops, I used the GCi ideas page, rather than GSoC: https://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2016/Ideas On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > We like to make the application at least one day early, and our ideas > page is part of what supports our application. Please make our > position strong, and set yourself up to get a great student to mentor > this summer! > > For now, Google Doc: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k1ESLkh6-0Hz4rGR02yEasjjx0_Kz12Y_6SZR3AWMVU/edit?usp=sharing > > We'll transfer those to the wiki page at > https://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2016/Ideas before the > applications close. The wiki page can have ideas added and modified > right up until student application deadline, but we need it full of > ideas now, in order that our application be accepted. > > Please, NOW. > > And sub to KDE-Soc-Mentor list if you are going to mentor. > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
[kde-community] GSoC Application Deadline is Feb. 19! Get your ideas in ASAP
We like to make the application at least one day early, and our ideas page is part of what supports our application. Please make our position strong, and set yourself up to get a great student to mentor this summer! For now, Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k1ESLkh6-0Hz4rGR02yEasjjx0_Kz12Y_6SZR3AWMVU/edit?usp=sharing We'll transfer those to the wiki page at https://community.kde.org/GoogleCodeIn/2016/Ideas before the applications close. The wiki page can have ideas added and modified right up until student application deadline, but we need it full of ideas now, in order that our application be accepted. Please, NOW. And sub to KDE-Soc-Mentor list if you are going to mentor. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?
On 13-02-2016 22:57, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: Does that make sense to you guys? And most importantly: Who'd be up for joining the program team? I do think KDE can and should improve communication with distributions and I would be happy to contribute in this effort. =) Cheers, Neofytos (tetr...@chakraos.org) ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 04:09:22PM -0400, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On a communication note - I think it would help to emphasize that Neon is, in > the end, KDE packages for Ubuntu. That is competition to the Kubuntu team > (but, given the history and people involved, that isn't a surprise). But it > isn't a full distribution, correct me if I'm wrong, Jonathan... Right, from the KDE neon FAQ: """ Is it a distro? Not quite, it's a package archive with the latest KDE software on top of a stable base. While we plan to have installable images, unlike full distros we're only interested in KDE software. """ and of course """ Is this "the KDE distro"? Nope. KDE believes it is important to work with many distributions, as each brings unique value and expertise for their respective users. This is one project out of hundreds from KDE. """ Shame on flamebaiting journalists who chose to ignore this. Worth pointing out that if you want an official KDE distro you'd be better looking at weekly Plasma ISOs (http://files.kde.org/snapshots/), Plasma Wayland ISOs (http://files.kde.org/snapshots/), Plasma mobile images (http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/) and Plasma Active images (https://files.kde.org/plasma/active/). Weirdly nobody ever complained about these or wrote articles saying they were a terrible idea. Jonathan ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions
Hi, On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer > > wrote: > > sent to wrong mailinglist by mistake ... > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: "Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer" > > To: kde-ev-members...@kde.org > > Cc: > > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 22:19:00 + > > Subject: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions > > Hi all, > > > > many thanks to all people that have worked on the vision proposals and to > > everyone who contributed thoughts. > > > > I would like to chime in with an aspect that I feel is missing so far. > > > > This additional aspect is closely related to the motivation behind the > > product-focussed draft, but my conclusions are completely different. > > > > Already in KDE 2 and KDE 3 times, it impressed me that the software both > > offered a high degree of flexibility (through modularity and many > > configuration options) and a high degree of consistency (through clever > > and > > integrated solutions via the libraries). This tendency increased later > > during Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 times with a restructuring of the KDE > > releases. We now offer far more flexibility to users of the libraries (no > > monolithic “kdelibs” any more). We also changed the release structure to > > support the fact that both the libraries and the applications can be used > > independent of the desktop – while keeping the good integration into the > > desktop. > > > > The flexibility aligns well with “enables users to control their digital > > life” (from the value-based draft). Actually the product-based draft had that earlier, there was cross-pollination between the two :-) ( https://community.kde.org/index.php?title=KDE/VisionDraftA&oldid=45297 ) > > The consistency is, I think, what > > motivates the product-focussed team. this, and even more that we want to put the product into focus again. ... > > This can be done via cooperations (OwnCloud, Kolab), but it other cases we > > will be better off if we allow our own developers to work on solutions. > > Forcing them to migrate to a different developing community will seriously > > harm us in our quest. > > > > For this reason, I am deeply concerned about the restrictive wording of > > the product-focussed draft – even if a similar motivation moves me. > > > > Regarding the value-based draft, my feedback is that it is very > > well-written. I truly like it. I am convinced, however, that we need to > > stress somewhere that the various KDE projects aim to integrate well with > > each other. This can be in the vision, or in a Mission statement, or in > > the Manifesto – but it is needed if we want to address the fear that KDE > > will loose focus. +1 I fully agree with your point that local software should be well integrated with online-services, and that KDE should try to provide that. You say the wording is "restrictive". What exactly do you consider restrictive there ? Do you understand "to achieve that, we work on:" as "we work on exactly that, and nothing else" ? Our intention is to say that those 4 items are the main focus, which we work on, and of course everything that supports those (I said that already earlier in some mail). So online-software that integrates well with the local applications is also in scope. What's not in scope would be online-software that has no relation to the local software (as you say, nothing would be integrated then). Having said that, it is just a draft, a suggestion. Not that much effort has been put into the exact words. Also the 4 items are just a suggestion. Olaf, if you think those could be modified or something added, please say so. :-) > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I > believe it has suffered lately as the cohesion inside KDE became less. > My gut feeling is that this should go in the mission. > > > I would suggest a sentence like the following: > > “KDE aims to offer complete, well-integrated solutions – while connecting > > different platforms, devices and online services.” > > That sounds good to me. To me too, but I still miss the reference that it is about software with graphical user interfaces (GUI's can also have gesture or voice input etc.), which Olaf seems to imply too. I mean, we are not targetting e.g. sensor networks built from 8bit uCs communicating to some big online server, with no user intervention (which would fit that description too), or are we ? > > Before we finally agree on a vision, we need to clarify how it will relate > > to the Manifesto – and what will happen to KDE projects that do not fit > > to the vision. > > They should live side-by-side. One defines who we are and the other > defines where we want to go. I think everybody agrees to that. > > I consider it extremely important that we have clarity on the following > > questions, and would like to hear an “official” answer from both teams: > > > > 1. Will the Manif
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 15:35:01 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... > I can turn that 180 degree around and argue that we are currently too narrow > minded to get new people in and are not doing great. Hey look all the > awesome work with Plasma 5 and Wayland. We are doing desktop, desktop, > desktop. Have a new mobile shell. And where are the devs? Where are the > people following in that pretty clear direction? > > So apparently having the direction seems not to work. People don't follow. > So maybe we are too narrow? Lose the people who are actually out there and > do hip stuff? If you say "desktop, desktop, desktop", yes, that's too narrow. We suggest desktop, PLUS cross-platform applications (that's not a focus right now) PLUS cross-platform libraries (putting even more emphasis on KF5). I think those two can get us a lot of new users and hopefully developers. Alex ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 9:34 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Sunday 14 February 2016 20:16:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > I am currently going through all the feedback again. Thanks for all > > your really useful feedback, Ingo. We'll take over a lot of it for > > the second draft. > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > > So, how about > > > "KDE enables everyone to control their digital life without > > > compromising their > > > privacy." > > > > It seems to me this is pitching control against privacy. If you want > > more control you need to give up your privacy. > > I cannot follow you. Why do you think that you need to give up your > privacy if you want more control? > > I think the opposite is true. If you have full control over your digital > life, then (for me) this implies that you have full control over your > data. > Yes exactly :) But to me the revised draft has a slight bent saying the opposite. Cheers Lydia ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
On Sunday 14 February 2016 20:16:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > I am currently going through all the feedback again. Thanks for all > your really useful feedback, Ingo. We'll take over a lot of it for > the second draft. > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > So, how about > > "KDE enables everyone to control their digital life without > > compromising their > > privacy." > > It seems to me this is pitching control against privacy. If you want > more control you need to give up your privacy. I cannot follow you. Why do you think that you need to give up your privacy if you want more control? I think the opposite is true. If you have full control over your digital life, then (for me) this implies that you have full control over your data. So, we could probably even remove the "without compromising their privacy" part from the vision statement (but we should then add it to an explanatory second sentence similar to how Oxfam explains with a second sentence what they mean by "a just world without poverty"). Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:33 PM Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 09 February 2016 12:19:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Sorry, but there was a bait I couldn't resist here. :-) > > > > On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 11:55:35 CET Marco Martin wrote: > > > * "makes simple things easy" not sure about that, aren't simple things > > > already supposed to be easy? :p (makes doing things easy?) > > > > In fact not, simple things can be terribly difficult to achieve > (complexity > > vs difficulty spectrums). I think the proposed phrasing points it out > well: > > * simple vs complex; > > * easy vs possible. > > > > That being said, I wonder how many people will fall for it like you did > > here. Most people tend to conflate simple with easy and complex with > > difficult. > > yep you are right, I do wonder if there is a problem in phrasing here tough > Does anyone have a suggestion for a good wording here that makes it clearer? Cheers Lydia ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
I am currently going through all the feedback again. Thanks for all your really useful feedback, Ingo. We'll take over a lot of it for the second draft. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > So, how about > "KDE enables everyone to control their digital life without compromising > their > privacy." It seems to me this is pitching control against privacy. If you want more control you need to give up your privacy. To me one doesn't follow from the other. Or am I missing something important? Cheers Lydia ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:35:22 PM AMT Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Monday 08 February 2016 17:07:26 Alexander Dymo wrote: > > > We define the goal for KDE not in technical terms, but in terms of > > > Freedom, user control and privacy. > > > > I understand this part clearly. I just say that this goal is too > > broadly defined, and, therefore hardly reachable by a single > > organization like KDE. > > I think you misunderstand what (the purpose of) a vision is. Let's look > at an example. > > Oxfam's vision is "a just world without poverty". > https://www.oxfam.org/en/our-purpose-and-beliefs > > This goal is hardly reachable by a single organization like Oxfam. > > > > Most free software communities, including KDE, already work towards > > that goal. > > Exactly. Just as many other NGOs are working towards the same goal as > Oxfam. > > > > Defining it in writing as the goal of KDE adds neither value nor > > attractiveness to KDE as a project. > > Well, that's debatable (and I disagree with it), but I hope you agree > that not defining it in writing as the goal of KDE can only reduce KDE's > attractiveness (because some potential contributors might fail to see > our goal and decide to join another community). > > I think your concern is that the vision does not function as > differentiation from other free software communities. That's correct, > but setting KDE apart from other free software communities is not the > purpose of the vision. What differentiates us from other free software > communities is not our goal, but the way we want to reach (resp. > approach) this goal. And this way should be spelled out in the mission. +1 to all you said. > > Regards, > Ingo > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:57:18 PM AMT Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > now with neon having been announced, and some members of some distributions > fearing that their distribution might become a "second-class citizen" for KDE > software due to the less direct communication with KDE, I think that it's > more > important than ever to publicly reach out to all distros shipping our > software. > > This thread has seen some skepticism about some parts of my original idea, > but > mostly great suggestions for how to proceed. > > I've tried to analyze the brainstorming results and identify what most people > contributing to the discussion seemed to agree on. > Here is how I'd suggest to proceed: > > - Form a team to organize the Distribution Outreach Program and act as point > of contact for the distributions > > - Define what would be the main communication channel (should we just use > kde-distro-packagers or do we need a new mailing list, forum or whatever?) > > - Publicly announce (on all channels where we might reach distributions) the > program, including how to reach us > > - Collect from our maintainers what a distribution should to provide in order > to make their software work best on it (where do we reach everyone?) and > publish that (ideally on our wiki once that is editable again) > > This is all I'd do for now. I'd suggest to first see how much simply > increasing > communication and publishing our requirements will take us. We can decide > whether we want/need badges or scripted testing later. > > Does that make sense to you guys? > And most importantly: Who'd be up for joining the program team? > > Cheers, > Thomas On a communication note - I think it would help to emphasize that Neon is, in the end, KDE packages for Ubuntu. That is competition to the Kubuntu team (but, given the history and people involved, that isn't a surprise). But it isn't a full distribution, correct me if I'm wrong, Jonathan... If that is a decent characterization than people should be as upset about Neon as they are about ownCloud packaging our own software for multiple distributions. Perhaps that's a bad example as, lately, we've been making people upset about that ;-) but in general it shouldn't be a big deal and certainly it isn't in any way like what Mister Lunduke portrayed. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?
On Friday, February 12, 2016 09:15:39 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > No, seriously, in the last weeks several people contacted me in private > > > email and expressed that they are not exactly happy, some even > > > seriously > > > frustrated with the strong emphasis on non-technical topics in KDE in > > > the > > > last few years, and they would prefer to get some more emphasis on > > > technology and products back. > > > > You know, same here: People express concerns about people who want to > > steer > > KDE into a self-fullfilling, narrow-minded playground project. > > are you saying that the people who would prefer some more technical > direction are wrong, they want the wrong thing, what you call > "self-fulfilling, narrow- minded playground project" ? That would mean they actually understood what their opinion entails and share concerns about the risk it brings. It's at least obvious that they don't share our concerns. > Can we please assume that everybody who is in KDE wants it succeed, and > consider their opinions seriously ? > I'm sure nobody here wants to harm KDE. Could you please stop trying to read things into my words that I didn't mean. It's highly annoying and derails the discussion time and time again, and I'm getting really, really tired by it. You're just not being constructive. > The decision, that we need a "community vision", and not a "product vision" > was made by the inclusive-draft team, consisting at that time of 5 people > in private discussion, and then presented as only choice to the community. Erm, no. The decision was that *this group* wanted to focus on a community vision. At the same time, we have been working on product visions (see the one for Plasma Mobile, for example.) Please be more careful when you put words into other people's mouth, this discussion is convoluted enough already, not thinking this kind of stuff through is one reason for that. Honestly, in one sentence, you agree to the do-ocracy principle, and in the next you're accusing others of making decisions on behalf of the community while your information about what's going on is at the very least, incomplete. By all means, feel free to create product visions. You can kindly skip Plasma, we'll take care of that, but there are plenty of others who may be happy to receive help. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion
On Friday, February 12, 2016 09:15:09 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:00:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > ... > > > Maybe what you want is an overarching product vision instead of a > > community > > vision, after all? > > I think I can answer at least for everybody from the alternative-draft > team, maybe also for the people who want more "direction" in KDE: yes. Obvious suggestion: go forth and create product visions? (We did the same, it's a useful exercise, but orthogonal to this discussion.) -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Wikis uneditable
Hi Ben, It seems that techbase isn't locked. There were a few acts of vandalism too: https://techbase.kde.org/Special:Log/delete PS: Any update on possible solutions for the wikis? On 2 February 2016 at 08:51, Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi all, > > Until further notice, all wikis hosted under KDE.org have been > rendered uneditable by everyone except members of the Identity group > "web-admins". > > Unfortunately it seems bots (or a human sweatshop) have completely > automated the login (via OpenID/Identity none the less) and abusive > editing of many of our wikis. > > This appears to be an issue being experienced by other Mediawiki > installations elsewhere as well. > > At some point we may reinvestigate restoring editing rights to a more > limited number of users, but until then our wikis will remain closed > to editing. > > If necessary, we may need to consider migration to alternative Wiki software. > > Regards, > Ben Cooksley > KDE Sysadmin > ___ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community -- regards, Jaroslaw Staniek KDE: : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org Calligra Suite: : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org Kexi: : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi Qt Certified Specialist: : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
