Re: Goal: Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia

[Rubén Gómez Antolí]

Hi all,

El 30/08/17 a las 01:34, Thomas Pfeiffer escribió:
> Hi everyone,
> here is my proposal for a Big Hairy Audacious Goal:  
> Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia

And engineering?

I think that some of the applications that you say (Rkward, for example)
are valid for engineering too.

There are other Qt apps that are used in engineering like Freecad or
Librecad, but there aren't KDE apps.

I think that engineering is near science and some of the tools are valid
for both.

Cheers.

Salud y Revolución.

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Re: Goal: Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia

[Olivier Churlaud]

> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:09:04 +0200
> From: Alexander Neundorf 
> To: informing about and discussing non-technical community topics
>   
> Subject: Re: Goal: Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and
>   academia
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> On 2017 M08 30, Wed 16:20:07 CEST Luca Beltrame wrote:
> ...
> 
> > In fact I think it would be worthwhile to present such options. I've
> > seen KDE software used in places I did not expect (e.g. a research
> > institute in agrobiology I visited a few years ago).
> > 
> > That said, I think it would be also a good idea to see "what makes our
> > software palatable for R" (which is potential reason 2 in your Phab
> > task). At least in my field (bioinformatics) most do not even know it
> > exists.
> 
> Maybe most of them are using Windows ?
> The full proposal also mentions Plasma, which basically means we would not
> only try to get them to use KDE applications, but also to switch their OS to
> Linux...
> So, does this goal include supporting Windows as a first class target
> platform ?
> 

Hi,

We at the French Space Agency use KDE 4 for operations (satellites and rocket 
control), and Windows for office work. At CERN and other particle accelerators 
I 
know in Berlin, they use KDE 4 and 3 for operation, variable for office work.

So they/we don't really need to switch our OS...

Cheers, 
Olivier
> Alex

Re: Goal: Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia

[Thomas Pfeiffer]

> On 30. Aug 2017, at 22:10, Alexander Neundorf  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not to forget Kitware, which is strong in Open Science and research.


…which is why it already said in the proposal
"Much of the software they use is already Qt-based (see e.g. Kitware)” :)

Re: Goal: Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia

[Thomas Pfeiffer]

> On 30. Aug 2017, at 22:09, Alexander Neundorf  wrote:
> 
> On 2017 M08 30, Wed 16:20:07 CEST Luca Beltrame wrote:
> ...
>> In fact I think it would be worthwhile to present such options. I've
>> seen KDE software used in places I did not expect (e.g. a research
>> institute in agrobiology I visited a few years ago).
>> 
>> That said, I think it would be also a good idea to see "what makes our
>> software palatable for R" (which is potential reason 2 in your Phab
>> task). At least in my field (bioinformatics) most do not even know it
>> exists.
> 
> Maybe most of them are using Windows ?
> The full proposal also mentions Plasma, which basically means we would not 
> only try to get them to use KDE applications, but also to switch their OS to 
> Linux...
> So, does this goal include supporting Windows as a first class target 
> platform 
> ?

Excellent point!
I’d clearly say yes, it should also support Windows as a target platform!
As I said in the proposal, I had wanted to use Kile and RKWard on my Windows 
machine at the university (which I could not switch to Linux because of 
institute policy) but I couldn’t because it was too difficult for me to make 
them run there.
So providing better Windows support for the scientific apps we have would 
certainly be a valuable goal.

I have now added

  - Make sure that our relevant applications are easy to find and install on 
Windows, since many researchers and students are still locked into Windows

to the possible solutions for reason 2