Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)

2019-12-11 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On woensdag 11 december 2019 14:58:38 CET Christian Loosli wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019, 03:55:15 CET schrieb Martin Klapetek:
> > [...]
> > > I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the
> > > moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not
> > > interested in it starts reading.
> > 
> > But how is that problem of the Planet? 
> 
> I guess it is a matter of expectations. From the feedback that I got, a 
> couple 
> of people consider the planet to be about KDE and are thus estranged when 
> controversial subjects such as politics do come up. 

Yes, there will always be people who find it weird when the world doesn't 
conform to their expectations. Tough luck, or a learning experience. My own 
blog was added to planetkde before there were any rules whatsoever, and I 
warned the people doing that that I would post about whatever occupied my mind, 
and I even posted religious posts, which actually got decried by the Gnome 
Games maintainer, back then (https://valdyas.org/fading/software/kio-sword/). 
Fabricatem diem meum, punc, is my answer.

The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled 
breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers are 
brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts of those 
KDE developer's lifes. This is healthy; too many people believe that working on 
free, kde, open, source, software is the only thing we do or are. Let them 
learn.

I don't want people to see only the KDE, Krita part of my life, but also the 
rest of what I am.
-- 
https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org




Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)

2019-12-11 Thread Christian Loosli
Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019, 03:55:15 CET schrieb Martin Klapetek:
> [...]
> > I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the
> > moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not
> > interested in it starts reading.
> 
> But how is that problem of the Planet? 

I guess it is a matter of expectations. From the feedback that I got, a couple 
of people consider the planet to be about KDE and are thus estranged when 
controversial subjects such as politics do come up. 

> If the reader decides to
> read something, then the reader can't blame the medium for giving
> them the opportunity to read that. It's always up to readers to decide
> whether they want to read something or not. The choice is theirs already.

Sure, due to how the planet is set-up and depending on the blog post(s) in 
question, it can be a bit cluttered up / makes it harder to find the content 
the above named people came to planet for. 

Hence offering the idea of a filter, which would allow these people to read 
what they came to the planet for, which is directly KDE related content. 

Of course one can decide that we do not want to create that opportunity for 
these people due to technical, effort-versus-gain or many other valid reasons, 
that will in my opinion just to lead to these people being alienated and not 
reading the planet. Which is why I think a filter would be nice, but I'm most 
certainly not going to die on that hill. 

> Cheers
> --
> Martin Klapetek

Kind regards, 

Christian