Re: KDE Apps name trademarks

[Hörmetjan Yiltiz]

kdenlive is still falsely advertised by others, based on Duckduckgo results
(already reported to duckduckgo using their Report Ad button, but not sure
how many reports does it take to trigger an action from them). This may be
prevalent in other common search engines.
https://imgur.com/LSvIiOH
Best,
Hörmet




On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:04 AM Jonathan Riddell  wrote:

> That being said, to answer your actual question, I would treat this in
> several elements:
>
>>
>>1. Do we want to trademark the names of more KDE products (I say
>>"more" since "KDE" is already trademarked, so arguably at least one 
>> product
>>is already trademarked). I personally have no strong opinion, but I agree
>>that trademarking can discourage modification. There are ways to mitigate
>>that, including publishing a trademark policy, offering a contact point to
>>ask about the acceptability of changes, and facilitating renaming, for
>>example by adding a compilation option to set a different name. I would
>>also suggest committing to publish a list of all trademark enforcement
>>actions done, so those who consider modifying can get an idea of what will
>>actually be accepted or not.
>>
>>
>>1. If we do agree to trademark more names, which names? We tend to
>>have lots of names for lots of projects, many of which I suppose may take 
>> a
>>while to be sufficiently important to justify trademarking. I propose a
>>wiki page as a way to list candidates and poll developers about each
>>
>>
>>1. For those names we do trademark, how much should the ™ symbol be
>>used? I would not like seeing it everywhere, but I do not mind seeing it 
>> in
>>the About screen, for instance.
>>2. Who would own those trademarks?
>>
>>
> My proposal would be to trademark all app names since they are all liable
> to be hijacked by third parties for whatever purposes.  It would mean
> adding a ™ symbol on web pages where we promote those apps.  They would
> be owned by KDE e.v.  Other apps like KOffice have done this in the past as
> I say.  However it seems nobody is very much in suppose of the idea so
> we'll just have to live with third parties living off our good names.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>

Re: Introducing KDE Activity Filter

[Luiz Fernando Ranghetti]

Hi Ben,

How to specify svn addresses?

Back in time I have pt_BR translations filtered in the old commit filter.
Then I could see the commits on phabricator, watching pages like this:
https://phabricator.kde.org/source/svn/history/branches/stable/l10n-kf5/pt_BR/
(and its trunk counterpart). I didn't find something similar to this on
invent.k.o

Now I'm left with this:
https://websvn.kde.org/branches/stable/l10n-kf5/pt_BR/messages/?sortby=date#dirlist
(in
this case scripty run will mask someone contribution)

Regards,

Luiz





Em dom., 12 de jul. de 2020 às 14:57, Ben Cooksley 
escreveu:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:46 AM Albert Astals Cid  wrote:
> >
> > El diumenge, 12 de juliol de 2020, a les 8:08:11 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > A few years back Sysadmin had to turn off the old Commit Filter
> > > service due to a number of security issues, with no replacement
> > > available.
> > >
> > > I'm now happy to announce that a replacement service is now available,
> >
> > Very much appreciated! Now i can stop using ifttt :)
> >
> > > with the added functionality of also being able to cover activity on
> > > Bugzilla and Gitlab (for Tasks and Merge Requests). It is intended
> > > that Activity Filter will be used to provide Gitlab notifications for
> > > merge requests and tasks to mailing lists, along with CI notifications
> > > if desired (once that is moved to Gitlab)
> > >
> > > The new service is configured through YAML format files in the
> > > sysadmin/activityfilter repository
> > > (https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/activityfilter), which is open to
> > > developers to commit. Please ensure that you read the README contained
> > > in the repository before doing so.
> > >
> > > Please let us know if you have any questions on the above!
> >
> > Can i do stuff like this?
> >
> > - name: "Commits"
> >   subscribes: "aa...@kde.org"
> >   to: commits
> >   where:
> > project: 'bla'
> > project: 'bla1'
> > project: 'bla2'
> > project: 'bla3'
> > project: 'bla4'
> > project: 'bla5'
> > project: 'bla6'
> > project: 'bla7'
> > project: 'bla8'
> >
> > ?
>
> I'm afraid rules like that aren't supported, however you can specify a
> regex so something like:
>
> where:
> project: 'foo1|foo2|foo3'
>
> should work fine.
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Albert
> >
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ben Cooksley
> > > KDE Sysadmin
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: reddit r_KDE uses KDE logo in LGBT colors

[Christian Loosli]

Hi Sabayon11, 

while I do not know why after taking it to Reddit, then the forums, then IRC 
you now have to take it to the mailing list, especially as the answers you 
were given were mostly all the same:

Yes, it is consistent, allowed, wanted and very much in the philosophy of KDE 
being open and welcoming for everybody and showing support to various 
marginalized groups. LGBTQ people still face discrimination in various places, 
in some way more severe than others, so I think it's good to show them that 
within the KDE community they are welcome and hopefully safe.
As Nate already wrote, this does not mean that we aren't open and welcoming 
for other groups; quite the contrary. And we gladly show support for them, 
where it makes sense and where it is appropriate, too.

If that openness and support for people scares off a sponsor, contributor or 
otherwise from KDE: probably KDE wasn't the right place for them anyway and I 
am not going to be sad about that loss.

Kind regards, 

Christian

Am Sonntag, 12. Juli 2020, 12:13:34 CEST schrieb sabayon11:
> I have a question:
> Is it legal for reddit moderators of r_KDE to use KDE logo in LGBT
> colors. Is it consistent with logo license?
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/
> 
> Is it in line with KDE code of conduct - to support certain groups
> that are politically active and be selective in this choice? For
> example: why they don't support women rights in middle-east region?
> Who have the right to decide?
> 
> Do you realize that it can stop certain people from funding KDE? Of
> course on the other hand it can make others, like George Soros to fund
> but does KDE really want to go in that direction and engage in such
> politics. Pretending that it has nothing to do with politics is a pure
> lie.
> 
> What other KDE contributors think about it? For example: do all KDE
> funders support engaging software community in non-software activity?
> 
> I know that reddit is separate website and has nothing to do with this
> forum, however this is social and community issue as well.
> 
> What about adding to KDE code of conduct: KDE is not engage in social
> or political dispute. KDE doesn't discriminate nor support any groups
> other than Free Software.
> 
> Personally I believe there are thousands of other better places on the
> Internet to express whatever point of view someone has and KDE and its
> community should not be involved in such activities.
> 
> It is now off. But this doesn't change the meaning of this action.
> My first message about it to this list was on 3rd of July but has not
> been accepted by moderators yet, so I had to subscribe.

Re: reddit r_KDE uses KDE logo in LGBT colors

[David Edmundson]

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:14 AM sabayon11  wrote:

> I have a question:
> Is it legal for reddit moderators of r_KDE to use KDE logo in LGBT
> colors. Is it consistent with logo license?
>

Like KDE itself, Oxygen Icons have a liberal copying policy. Anyone may,
and is encouraged to, use Oxygen Icons in their applications, websites and
physical artwork. *Modification is also allowed*. The only restriction is
that you can not restrict what others then do with the artwork.

The copying licence is the GNU LGPL 3, see Policies/Licensing_Policy
 and LGPL licence text
 for the full legal details.

Source: https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/Licensing . Emphasis is
mine.




>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/
>
> Is it in line with KDE code of conduct - to support certain groups
> that are politically active and be selective in this choice?
>

Changing a logo on a 3rd party social media site is not against the code of
conduct.

Again a helpful link: https://kde.org/code-of-conduct/

I hope this helps address your concerns.

David


> Do you realize that it can stop certain people from funding KDE? Of
> course on the other hand it can make others, like George Soros to fund
> but does KDE really want to go in that direction and engage in such
> politics. Pretending that it has nothing to do with politics is a pure
> lie.
>

> What other KDE contributors think about it? For example: do all KDE
> funders support engaging software community in non-software activity?
>
> I know that reddit is separate website and has nothing to do with this
> forum, however this is social and community issue as well.
>
> What about adding to KDE code of conduct: KDE is not engage in social
> or political dispute. KDE doesn't discriminate nor support any groups
> other than Free Software.
>
> Personally I believe there are thousands of other better places on the
> Internet to express whatever point of view someone has and KDE and its
> community should not be involved in such activities.
>
> It is now off. But this doesn't change the meaning of this action.
> My first message about it to this list was on 3rd of July but has not
> been accepted by moderators yet, so I had to subscribe.
>

Re: KDE Apps name trademarks

[Jonathan Riddell]

That being said, to answer your actual question, I would treat this in
several elements:

>
>1. Do we want to trademark the names of more KDE products (I say
>"more" since "KDE" is already trademarked, so arguably at least one product
>is already trademarked). I personally have no strong opinion, but I agree
>that trademarking can discourage modification. There are ways to mitigate
>that, including publishing a trademark policy, offering a contact point to
>ask about the acceptability of changes, and facilitating renaming, for
>example by adding a compilation option to set a different name. I would
>also suggest committing to publish a list of all trademark enforcement
>actions done, so those who consider modifying can get an idea of what will
>actually be accepted or not.
>
>
>1. If we do agree to trademark more names, which names? We tend to
>have lots of names for lots of projects, many of which I suppose may take a
>while to be sufficiently important to justify trademarking. I propose a
>wiki page as a way to list candidates and poll developers about each
>
>
>1. For those names we do trademark, how much should the ™ symbol be
>used? I would not like seeing it everywhere, but I do not mind seeing it in
>the About screen, for instance.
>2. Who would own those trademarks?
>
>
My proposal would be to trademark all app names since they are all liable
to be hijacked by third parties for whatever purposes.  It would mean
adding a ™ symbol on web pages where we promote those apps.  They would be
owned by KDE e.v.  Other apps like KOffice have done this in the past as I
say.  However it seems nobody is very much in suppose of the idea so we'll
just have to live with third parties living off our good names.

Jonathan

Re: KDE Apps name trademarks

[Jonathan Riddell]

One other argument why we might want to trademark our app names would be to
prevent people buying Google adverts against those names such as kdenlive
has had
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/honvoy/google_publishes_misleading_ad_for_a_proprietary/

Jonathan