Re: Plasma 6 new logo poll

[Richard Troy]

Hi Graham,

When you wrote:

That was definitely not the intention, even though 
I can see how the result was perceived that way anyway.


...I hope your perception was _more_ than just that; there's not any 
question whatsoever that important and perhaps a dominant feedback was 
suppressed.


"For the record", I don't care that much and I'm not complaining. I'm 
speaking up because I'm with Ilya on this, and likely many other voices, 
if I did care I'd be damned annoyed, perhaps even upset, and, most 
importantly, because I think there's always room for improvement and this 
can be a "learning opportunity" to do things better in the future.


That said, the best version I saw, in my subjective opinion, wasn't even 
on the list of choices: The one that looks a LOT like the current design 
but inverted with the numeral 6 character serving the logical spot of the 
current > character (shape), just backwards: It's instantly recognizable
and shows off the new version. Plus, in my view, it has artistic merit and 
can't be any worse than the current design for its multiple uses 
/ purposes.


I think there's time for a "new poll!"

With best regards,
Richard

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Re: Plasma 6 new logo poll

[Jonathan Riddell]

To add some positivity I think Plasma 6.0 release is a great time for a
logo refresh and this is a good way to do it.  It would be normal to
discuss this with the Plasma team ahead of time but we're still 2.5 months
ahead of 6.0 release so we have time yet, Plasma meetings are on Monday EU
afternoons in the #plasma channel, do come along to discuss.

Jonathan

Re: Plasma 6 new logo poll

[Christian]

Hi all, 

as someone who did participate in the poll and would like to keep the current 
version as the most favoured option: I just took the lack of "keep current" 
option as a "if we are going to change, which would would you like best", so I 
gave my vote to the option which is my second choice, after "keep current". 
I think that brands are way too quick these days with throwing something built 
up and recognizable over board, but iff we really have to change, then this one 
is the one I think would be the best.

Only after Ilya's mail I do indeed see that people could interpret the result 
as a "people want change", which will put pressure on. If e.g. 20 more people 
felt like me and would choose their second best favourite, this might look 
like there are 20 more people who support change, and fewer who want to keep 
what we have currently.

Therefore I suggest we take this poll with a grain of salt. 

Kind regards, 

Christian

Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2023, 16:01:06 CET schrieb Nate Graham:
> Hi Ilya,
> 
> This is mostly my fault as the poll did indeed have a "keep the current
> logo" option in the beginning, but I recommended removing it after
> seeing the poll live on discuss.kde.org. The reason for that
> recommendation was because the results of the poll are themselves a set
> of options for the Plasma devs to consider, and they (we) always have
> the option of not taking any of them. So from that perspective a "keep
> the current logo" option would be redundant and have the potential to
> reduce the number of options available for the Plasma devs to consider.
> 
> However I also see how the lack of a "keep the current logo" option
> makes people who don't want any chance and who aren't or don't see
> themselves as Plasma devs feel silenced. That was definitely not the
> intention, even though I can see how the result was perceived that way
> anyway.
> 
> And to reiterate, there was never intended to be any pressure on Plasma
> devs to choose a new logo. As I understand it, the ideal behind the poll
> was to pick the three most popular options and weigh them against the
> current logo.
> 
> Nate
> 
> On 12/6/23 00:34, Ilya Bizyaev wrote:
> > Hello Paul,
> > 
> > Could you explain why there is no option for the current Plasma logo? I
> > would like to vote for keeping the existing logo, as I prefer it to the
> > options listed in the poll. Shouldn't Plasma developers be able to see
> > how the votes for the new logos compare to the current one, to make an
> > informed decision?
> > 
> > Not voting at all is not a solution because it is ambiguous: it could be
> > interpreted as not caring or supporting whichever new logo that poll
> > ends up "electing". "Non-bindingness" is also not an answer, because the
> > developers will feel pressured by the community to comply with the poll
> > results, even though they will be incomplete.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Ilya
> > 
> > On 5 December 2023 21:17:53 CET, Paul Brown  wrote:
> > Dear Community Members,
> > 
> > We have trimmed down all the proposals from KDE aficionados for the
> > new Plasma
> > logo taken from here:
> > 
> > https://discuss.kde.org/t/how-about-a-new-logo-for-plasma-6/6206
> > 
> > 
> > to 6 (you know: as in Plasma _6_) and made a poll to determine the
> > all time
> > favourite.
> > 
> > If you would like to vote on the poll, please go here:
> > 
> > https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-logo-final-selection-and-poll/8001
> >  > 1>
> > 
> > The three most voted options will be passed on to the Plasma
> > developers for
> > their consideration. Please note that this poll is **NON-BINDING** and
> > changing the logo will depend on the willingness of the Plasma devs.
> > They will
> > have the final say.
> > 
> > Either way, the change, if it happens, is unlikely to occur in time
> > for Plasma
> > 6.0, as the project is currently in Feature Freeze. This means that
> > only
> > corrections, bug squashing, and minor tweaking is going on. Nothing
> > new may be
> > added at this stage. So if the devs do decide to change the logo,
> > this won’t
> > happen until at least Plasma 6.1.
> > 
> > This poll will finish and be closed in one week.
> > 
> > May the best design win!
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Paul

Re: Plasma 6 new logo poll

[Nate Graham]

Hi Ilya,

This is mostly my fault as the poll did indeed have a "keep the current 
logo" option in the beginning, but I recommended removing it after 
seeing the poll live on discuss.kde.org. The reason for that 
recommendation was because the results of the poll are themselves a set 
of options for the Plasma devs to consider, and they (we) always have 
the option of not taking any of them. So from that perspective a "keep 
the current logo" option would be redundant and have the potential to 
reduce the number of options available for the Plasma devs to consider.


However I also see how the lack of a "keep the current logo" option 
makes people who don't want any chance and who aren't or don't see 
themselves as Plasma devs feel silenced. That was definitely not the 
intention, even though I can see how the result was perceived that way 
anyway.


And to reiterate, there was never intended to be any pressure on Plasma 
devs to choose a new logo. As I understand it, the ideal behind the poll 
was to pick the three most popular options and weigh them against the 
current logo.


Nate



On 12/6/23 00:34, Ilya Bizyaev wrote:

Hello Paul,

Could you explain why there is no option for the current Plasma logo? I 
would like to vote for keeping the existing logo, as I prefer it to the 
options listed in the poll. Shouldn't Plasma developers be able to see 
how the votes for the new logos compare to the current one, to make an 
informed decision?


Not voting at all is not a solution because it is ambiguous: it could be 
interpreted as not caring or supporting whichever new logo that poll 
ends up "electing". "Non-bindingness" is also not an answer, because the 
developers will feel pressured by the community to comply with the poll 
results, even though they will be incomplete.


Best regards,
Ilya


On 5 December 2023 21:17:53 CET, Paul Brown  wrote:

Dear Community Members,

We have trimmed down all the proposals from KDE aficionados for the
new Plasma
logo taken from here:

https://discuss.kde.org/t/how-about-a-new-logo-for-plasma-6/6206


to 6 (you know: as in Plasma _6_) and made a poll to determine the
all time
favourite.

If you would like to vote on the poll, please go here:

https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-logo-final-selection-and-poll/8001 


The three most voted options will be passed on to the Plasma
developers for
their consideration. Please note that this poll is **NON-BINDING** and
changing the logo will depend on the willingness of the Plasma devs.
They will
have the final say.

Either way, the change, if it happens, is unlikely to occur in time
for Plasma
6.0, as the project is currently in Feature Freeze. This means that
only
corrections, bug squashing, and minor tweaking is going on. Nothing
new may be
added at this stage. So if the devs do decide to change the logo,
this won’t
happen until at least Plasma 6.1.

This poll will finish and be closed in one week.

May the best design win!

Cheers

Paul

What are the Promo contractors up to? Weeks 45, 46, 47 & 48 2023

[Paul Brown]

Hello All, 

Apologies for missing the last one. Don't know what happened there. Either 
way, this one has double the stuff, so double the fun, eh?

What follows are  the Promo highlights for weeks 45, 46, 47 and 48 2023.

Enjoy.

---
### Things done

* Added plugin to modify the quality of transcoding for PeerTube videos
* Edited and tweaked 6th Megarelease Alpha announcement text
* Promoted KDE's 6th Megarelease Alpha on social media
* Set up and carried out meeting with CACD lab staff and leaders
* Edited, proofread and laid out web announcement for the end of GSoC
* Promoted end of GSoC announcement
* Helped the mentorship team set up a new website for the project
* Edited, proofread and corrected the layout of "Off Theme" part II
* Promoted ending of Wallpaper competition
* Promoted KDE at the Qt World Summit event.
* Promoted Fundraising for Giving Tuesday.
* Promoted Megarelease Beta1 and encouraged testers to submit bugs
* Incorporated messages to encourage donations and supporting memberships into 
most social media, thus increasing the rate of both.
* Implemented several strategies to encourage followers to move from 
proprietary platforms (X, Reddit) to join us on free federated (Mastodon, 
Lemmy, PeerTube) and self-hosted (Discuss) platforms.
* Updated PeerTube to version 6, improving transcoding quality and adding 
features, such as enabling to upload new versions of videos
* Started working with Krita's communication team to publicise their regular 
monthly update bulletin
* Started work on 2024 external events budget and strategy

### Things to do

* Research ways of semi-automatically creating screenshots of software while 
it is being tested ()
* Start to work on Annual Report 2023
* Merchandise for FOSDEM 2024.
* Organize conf.KDE.in

### Ongoing projects and periodic tasks

* Finding and solving mistakes in websites and wikis
* Moderating social media
* Weekly data collection on followers from Twitter, Mastodon and Instagram.
* Daily data collection from mentions of KDE, Kdenlive, Krita, etc., from 
media across the web.
* Uploading and publishing Akademy2023 talks to YouTube and PeerTube
* Collecting data for Quarterly Newsletter and Advisory Board meetings.
* Writing content for Akademy's website
* Collaboration with Startpage

### Discussion points

* Work with sysadmin to see if we can find a reasonable way of creating an 
online Plasma 6 desktop for people to play with
---

Cheers

Aniqa and Paul
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