Re: BoF Notes: How Python can help KDE Development?
On Sonntag, 13. September 2020 12:13:48 CEST Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On 2020 setula d. 12id 23:02:27 CEST Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > On Samstag, 12. September 2020 16:13:29 CEST Cristián Maureira-Fredes > > wrote: > > > - A similar project on this topic is PythonQt [3] > > > > > > [3] https://mevislab.github.io/pythonqt/Examples.html > > > > I have worked many years with the maintainer of PythonQt (Florian Link, > > awesome developer and person) and have made extensive use of PythonQt for > > scripting MeVisLab (a Qt-based application framework for medical imaging > > applications). > > That's interesting: PythonQt was also used by Calamares (Calamares also uses > Boost::Python, so offering two ways to embed Python into the C++ > application). PythonQt support is deprecated and will be removed, for two > reasons: > > 1 - nobody was actually using the Qt / UI parts of it to do UI scripting in > Calamares, so the extra API and dependency was not useful, and > 2 - PythonQt is packaged inconsistently and/or weirdly by Linux distro's, > which makes it hard to depend upon. > > That might be a chicken / egg situation though: if it's not packaged, people > won't use it either. I see that Calamares still refers to a SourceForge > home for it -- that's an indication of how old and unmaintained that part > of the Calamares code is. However, after chasing a few redirects, I end up > on GitHub, with no tags, no releases and no indication of anything newer > than Qt 5.12 in that repo. (And it uses QtScript, it seems, although an > own-copy) > > Perhaps that project needs some extra help with documentation and > presentation? I think help would be appreciated. Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: BoF Notes: How Python can help KDE Development?
On 2020 setula d. 12id 23:02:27 CEST Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Samstag, 12. September 2020 16:13:29 CEST Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote: > > * Kross > > > > - Since it's based on QtScript, there might an option to evaluate of > >Python can replace it, since QtScript > > was deprecated. Kross also has some Python2 stuff in it, and I understood that Kross is unlikely to make it to KF6 (perhaps due to QtScript being deprecated), so there's multiple reasons not to invest in that. > > - A similar project on this topic is PythonQt [3] > > > > [3] https://mevislab.github.io/pythonqt/Examples.html > > I have worked many years with the maintainer of PythonQt (Florian Link, > awesome developer and person) and have made extensive use of PythonQt for > scripting MeVisLab (a Qt-based application framework for medical imaging > applications). That's interesting: PythonQt was also used by Calamares (Calamares also uses Boost::Python, so offering two ways to embed Python into the C++ application). PythonQt support is deprecated and will be removed, for two reasons: 1 - nobody was actually using the Qt / UI parts of it to do UI scripting in Calamares, so the extra API and dependency was not useful, and 2 - PythonQt is packaged inconsistently and/or weirdly by Linux distro's, which makes it hard to depend upon. That might be a chicken / egg situation though: if it's not packaged, people won't use it either. I see that Calamares still refers to a SourceForge home for it -- that's an indication of how old and unmaintained that part of the Calamares code is. However, after chasing a few redirects, I end up on GitHub, with no tags, no releases and no indication of anything newer than Qt 5.12 in that repo. (And it uses QtScript, it seems, although an own-copy) Perhaps that project needs some extra help with documentation and presentation? [ade] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: BoF Notes: How Python can help KDE Development?
On Samstag, 12. September 2020 16:13:29 CEST Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote: > * Kross > - Since it's based on QtScript, there might an option to evaluate of > Python can replace it, since QtScript > was deprecated. > - A similar project on this topic is PythonQt [3] > > [3] https://mevislab.github.io/pythonqt/Examples.html I have worked many years with the maintainer of PythonQt (Florian Link, awesome developer and person) and have made extensive use of PythonQt for scripting MeVisLab (a Qt-based application framework for medical imaging applications). MeVisLab and therefore also PythonQt is the basis of many products of MeVis Medical Solutions AG and other companies. This means there's a high probability that PythonQt will be well maintained for years to come. If you want to add the possibility to script your application with Python, I highly recommend to give PythonQt a try. Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
