Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid 
El dissabte, 16 de setembre de 2017, a les 11:22:39 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va 
escriure:
> El dijous, 14 de setembre de 2017, a les 21:03:53 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va
> escriure:
> > I am suggesting to add
> > 
> >  * Support the KDE Vision and Mission
> > 
> > as second point of
> > 
> >   https://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html
> > 
> > Anyone against it?
> > 
> > If no one disagrees I'll make the change in two weeks.
> 
> piggy backing and adding the change of "Support the KDE Code of Conduct" to
> "Respect the KDE Code of Conduct" since people seem to be on agreement
> Respect is a better word than Support for this.

Updated.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Albert

Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid 
El dijous, 14 de setembre de 2017, a les 21:03:53 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va 
escriure:
> I am suggesting to add
> 
>  * Support the KDE Vision and Mission
> 
> as second point of
>   https://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html
> 
> Anyone against it?
> 
> If no one disagrees I'll make the change in two weeks.

piggy backing and adding the change of "Support the KDE Code of Conduct" to 
"Respect the KDE Code of Conduct" since people seem to be on agreement Respect 
is a better word than Support for this.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert

Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-15 Thread Boudhayan Gupta 
I was suggesting either of Abide by or Respect. I would prefer Respect
since it's friendlier, and implies obedience as well as suggests allegiance
to the spirit of the law.


Freundliche Grüße
Boudhayan Gupta
KDE e.V. - Community Working Group
+49 151 71032970

On 15 September 2017 at 21:31, Alexander Neundorf  wrote:

> On 2017 M09 15, Fri 20:02:35 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On 15. Sep 2017, at 04:34, Valorie Zimmerman <
> valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:>
> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Albert Astals Cid 
> wrote:
> > >> El divendres, 15 de setembre de 2017, a les 1:10:32 CEST, Boudhayan
> Gupta
> > >> va>>
> > >> escriure:
> > >>> While we're at it, might I suggest also changing the first line to
> > >>> "[Respect/Abide by] the KDE Code of Conduct" instead of "Support"?
> > >>
> > >> Any linguist on the room?
> > >>
> > >> Can you explain why you think it matters?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>  Albert
> > >
> > > I'm not a linguist, but if we are making other changes, then I support
> > > making the change from "support" to "respect and abide by" which is
> > > stronger and more specific.
> > >
> > > The suggestion to add "Support the KDE Vision and Mission" is a good
> > > one, so I support both changes.
> > >
> > > Valorie
> >
> > I’m also for adding the Vision / Mission support and for strengthening
> the
> > wording on the CoC, though I find “respect and abide by” a bit too much.
> I
> > thought Boudhayan was just suggesting to use either of those.
> >
> > So maybe “abide by”, as that already for me kinda implies “respect”
> (we’re
> > not exactly the kind of people who abide by rules they don’t even
> respect).
>
> I'd prefer "respect", it sounds more friendly to me.
>
> Alex
>
>
>

Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer 

> On 15. Sep 2017, at 04:34, Valorie Zimmerman  
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Albert Astals Cid  wrote:
>> El divendres, 15 de setembre de 2017, a les 1:10:32 CEST, Boudhayan Gupta va
>> escriure:
>>> While we're at it, might I suggest also changing the first line to
>>> "[Respect/Abide by] the KDE Code of Conduct" instead of "Support"?
>> 
>> Any linguist on the room?
>> 
>> Can you explain why you think it matters?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>>  Albert
> 
> I'm not a linguist, but if we are making other changes, then I support
> making the change from "support" to "respect and abide by" which is
> stronger and more specific.
> 
> The suggestion to add "Support the KDE Vision and Mission" is a good
> one, so I support both changes.
> 
> Valorie

I’m also for adding the Vision / Mission support and for strengthening the 
wording on the CoC, though I find “respect and abide by” a bit too much. I 
thought Boudhayan was just suggesting to use either of those.

So maybe “abide by”, as that already for me kinda implies “respect” (we’re not 
exactly the kind of people who abide by rules they don’t even respect).

Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-15 Thread Ben Cooksley 
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Albert Astals Cid  wrote:
> I am suggesting to add
>
>  * Support the KDE Vision and Mission
>
> as second point of
>   https://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html
>
> Anyone against it?
>
> If no one disagrees I'll make the change in two weeks.

I'm in favour of this change.

>
> Cheers,
>   Albert

Cheers,
Ben

Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-14 Thread Valorie Zimmerman 
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Albert Astals Cid  wrote:
> El divendres, 15 de setembre de 2017, a les 1:10:32 CEST, Boudhayan Gupta va
> escriure:
>> While we're at it, might I suggest also changing the first line to
>> "[Respect/Abide by] the KDE Code of Conduct" instead of "Support"?
>
> Any linguist on the room?
>
> Can you explain why you think it matters?
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert

I'm not a linguist, but if we are making other changes, then I support
making the change from "support" to "respect and abide by" which is
stronger and more specific.

The suggestion to add "Support the KDE Vision and Mission" is a good
one, so I support both changes.

Valorie

>> Freundliche Grüße
>> Boudhayan Gupta
>> KDE e.V. - Community Working Group
>> +49 151 71032970
>>
>> On 14 September 2017 at 21:03, Albert Astals Cid  wrote:
>> > I am suggesting to add
>> >
>> >  * Support the KDE Vision and Mission
>> >
>> > as second point of
>> >
>> >   https://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html
>> >
>> > Anyone against it?
>> >
>> > If no one disagrees I'll make the change in two weeks.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >   Albert

-- 
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Re: RFC: Small change to KDE Manifesto Commitments

2017-09-14 Thread Boudhayan Gupta 
While we're at it, might I suggest also changing the first line to
"[Respect/Abide by] the KDE Code of Conduct" instead of "Support"?


Freundliche Grüße
Boudhayan Gupta
KDE e.V. - Community Working Group
+49 151 71032970

On 14 September 2017 at 21:03, Albert Astals Cid  wrote:

> I am suggesting to add
>
>  * Support the KDE Vision and Mission
>
> as second point of
>   https://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html
>
> Anyone against it?
>
> If no one disagrees I'll make the change in two weeks.
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert
>