Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
On Sunday 31 Jul 2011 02:01:57 Nicolas Alvarez wrote: Alex Fiestas wrote: · Draft a plan for colord integration (next thing after krandr is fixed) That better be optional at runtime :) There aren't that many people who care about color profiles (but we really need the functionality for those who do). Current policy is all new requirements must be optional unless otherwise approved on this list, so no worries there. Anyway, there's a BoF scheduled on Color Management as part of the printing stream, but it's intended to cover the end-to-end process so all are welcome. And just a reminder that besides colord there is an existing KDE color management solution http://www.oyranos.org/ that is under active development, so perhaps we should aim for supporting generic interfaces and standards rather than a particular implementation. Cheers! John.
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
Alex Fiestas wrote: · Draft a plan for colord integration (next thing after krandr is fixed) That better be optional at runtime :) There aren't that many people who care about color profiles (but we really need the functionality for those who do). · Draft a plan for systemd kde-workspace integration (there are a couple of things we can do I think) Yes, please! :) -- Nicolas
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
On Wednesday 27 July 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: hi :) BDS is coming up rather quickly and i've been doing some personal planning for it today. i realized in one of those i just realized the obvious, doh! moments that i have very little idea of what others are planning and hoping for the event. it was a quick hop from there to realize that probably nobody knew what i planned and hoped for either. given that this is one of the most important events in KDE's annual calendar, this was a little shocking to me once i thought about it. i'd like to help make BDS a raging success this year for us (and i'm sure you all want and expect the same :) and it would help if i (and others) could arrive with some idea of what we're all arriving with in terms of expectations. so .. here are my primary goals: * push Plasma further forward by meeting with others who are contributing in person (ok, that one was probably obvious :) * engage with others involved with our goals set out at Platform 11 for KDE Frameworks and move that forward with them. a concrete personal goal: have the Frameworks branches set up in kdelibs and kde-runtime and merge the libplasma2 branches into them. * share our goals for Plasma Active more openly and explicitly with other people in the KDE project. * promote organization and leadership efforts within our community (this is reflected by my presentation topic :) * ensure that we get reasonable promotional coverage for BDS: timely content on the dot, live blogging and microblogging ... * have an enjoyable time with everyone who shows up :) ok, so there you go. more than you may have wanted to know about my plans and goals for BDS. i'd enjoy having more goals than the above, but it's already a lot to accomplish in such a short time there. trying to stay somewhat realistic ;) i'm VERY interested in what you are hoping and planning for from your own attendance at BDS. please share those goals so that we can all arrive more mentally prepared for what is in store. Here my 2cents: I'll mostly concentrate on the stuff from Randa. * upstream stuff into cmake. automoc anyone ? * get extra-cmake-modules into shape, a package for distributing our cmake extension scripts * try to make superbuild (https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/superbuild) known and get feedback from packagers, developers etc. And, last but not least, meet again with the other developers interested and working on the buildsystem and coordinate future work. It would be nice if if we could form like a small KDE buildsystem community, e.g. we'll also need to make releases for extra-cmake-modules, write announcements, have a homepage, etc. Some PR would be nice :-) And since not only KDE guys will be there, maybe we can have some good discussions with not-yet cmake users. Alex
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 14:40:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: i'm VERY interested in what you are hoping and planning for from your own attendance at BDS. please share those goals so that we can all arrive more mentally prepared for what is in store. 1) Catch up on everything I'm behind on due to being mostly offline the last 6 weeks :-) Apologies if people have been waiting for responses, I will get to them. 2) Do a status check on the Qt5 work we need done, especially the locale and date/time work. 3) Work out the design for Qt5 time zones with people who actually understand these things 4) Nag people about git: policies, workflow, documentation, etc. 5) Carry on reviewing/rewriting the TechBase Getting Started articles. 6) Sketch out the plan for the new printing module in Qt 5.1, talk again to the OpenPrinting guys to guage if recent developments around CPD are good or bad (x-desktop) 7) Facilitate discussions on colour management (x-desktop) 8) Find Gnome people interested in a shared holidays file format (x-desktop) 9) Find the GeoClue people to discuss what's going on (x-desktop) 10) Discuss the infrastructure collaboration problem (x-desktop) 11) Get my butt kicked at volleyball/soccer :-) 12) Sleep? Nah... John.
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
Hi all On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 07:59, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:40:11 +0200, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: (and others wrote as well) ... Interestingly these plans all sound great for Akademy, but since it is a Desktop Summit I would love to hear what cross-desktop plans there are within our community. Or am I the only one missing something here? Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300)
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 00:54:50 Nicolas Alvarez wrote: Sebastian Kügler wrote: One of my goals is to take steps to make the release team more scalable, and reduce its bus numbers. Surely you mean increase :) A bus number of 1 means the team has a single point of failure. Ah, yes of course. Increase bus number, reduce risk. :) -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 09:35:57 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: Hi all On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 07:59, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:40:11 +0200, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: (and others wrote as well)... Interestingly these plans all sound great for Akademy, but since it isa Desktop Summit I would love to hear what cross-desktop plans thereare within our community. Or am I the only one missing something here? i don't think you're missing anything; it's just that my near-term priorities are fairly KDE centric right now, which is a reflection of the current state of the projects i am most involved in right now. others will have x-desktop plans / hopes / aspirations for their time at BDS. the people working on telepathy, secret service, dconf, nepomuk/zeitgeist, etc. etc. spring to mind. and that's why i've asked for what people are planning / wanting to be doing at BDS so we can all get a reasonable feel for things like who should i hunt down for x-desktop topics because i also have interest in those topics... :) -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
My plans for BDS include: · Drink Northen German beer · Pay some beers to some KDE hackers and active community · Improve the communication between platform developers and us NetworkManager BlueZ UPower UDisk UNextThink etc... · Draft a plan for colord integration (next thing after krandr is fixed) · Draft a plan for systemd kde-workspace integration (there are a couple of things we can do I think) · Draft a plan for KDE-Workspace XRandR fixes including: How KWin will react on events How and WHEN plasma-* will react on events Fix KWin window sizeing/positioning bugs Agreed on how to clean geometry.cpp and workspace.cpp files · Spicy up plasma-desktop development by starting to define some common ground between the different views out there.
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 15:40:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so .. here are my primary goals: [...] One of my goals is to take steps to make the release team more scalable, and reduce its bus numbers. While we really bring out a lot of release, and nearly all of them in time as planned, I think we need to work on two things: * Make Dirk and me replacable -- we have no plans to stop with release team duties, but since it's such a critical task, and ever getting bigger, we need more people we can fall back onto. * The Git migration wasn't exactly a walk in the park, there was lots of last- minute futzing, not everything was clear and I think we put more work than necessary onto various downstreams by changing layout of our tarballs I think overall we're doing pretty well, just that we can do better here and there. * have an enjoyable time with everyone who shows up :) ...and that. :) -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9
Re: My Plans, Your Plans: Berlin Desktop Summit
Sebastian Kügler wrote: One of my goals is to take steps to make the release team more scalable, and reduce its bus numbers. Surely you mean increase :) A bus number of 1 means the team has a single point of failure. -- Nicolas
