Re: Retirement of IRC Services and KDETalk.net (Jabber)
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 3:52 AM Thiago Masato Costa Sueto < herzensch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I only want to comment on two things: > > > Depending on the level of community interest, we may opt to retain > pursuivant however i'd like for it to be rebuilt as a Matrix native service > rather than being a continuation of our existing irker based bot that > occasionally has issues and falls off. > > FWIW I always found pursuivant really offputting for some of our groups. > In some of them, like the documentation group, it's possible for the > channel to be flooded with only bot messages for months. I can't really > follow messages there, people who occasionally visit are put off by it and > never see any replies either. It becomes a notification group, not a > conversation group. > > If we're turning pursuivant into a Matrix service, I'd also like to ask > for it to be used only on dedicated channels, not in rooms where users are > expected to interact with other community members. > What messages are posted by pursuivant is fully tunable, and governed by the configuration in sysadmin/irc-notifications While the Jenkins components in there are no longer of use, the Bugzilla announcements for new bugs, and commit announcements for commits to given repositories both work and are fully tunable. > > > Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608 > members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to > Brazilian community. > > > Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups > to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at > other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1] > > As mentioned we have 608 members. Of course, this also includes lurkers > (inactive members). > > I made a recent count and apparently at least 67 are active members. In > comparison, we have 12 Matrix members, all of them active, of which 5 are > only on Matrix and prefer it over Telegram. One of our Brazilian KDE > developers is only on IRC. > > Another thing to note is that I agree the current state of the bridge is > NOT fine. The KDE Matrix Bridge bot gets kicked by the appservice bot too > often, forcing me to re-add it, and it keeps sending join/leave > notifications to the Telegram side, sometimes literally hundreds, flooding > the channel. Our users have started to complain about it. > Note that "KDE Matrix Bridge" is different to the bridge i'm wanting to discontinue here. The bridge i'm looking to discontinue is the one known as "IrcsomeBot" (on Libera/Matrix) which is quite different. > > We can pursue an effort to move fully to Matrix as Filipe said, maybe even > stage some collaboration with a local homeserver (bolha.chat) for new > accounts, or we can stay only on Telegram due to popular demand. We haven't > decided yet. > > I'd personally be in favor of moving to Matrix. > > Regards, > Thiago Sueto > Cheers, Ben > > Em sáb., 10 de jun. de 2023 às 09:57, Filipe Saraiva > escreveu: > >> Hello Ben, >> >> Em 21/05/2023 06:37, Ben Cooksley escreveu: >> > Given that we are now fairly well migrated to Matrix, the need to >> > maintain our Telegram bridging is much reduced, and i'd therefore like >> > to retire that without replacement. >> > >> >> Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608 >> members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to >> Brazilian community. >> >> Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups >> to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at >> other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1] >> >> Best regards; >> >> [1] https://t2bot.io/telegram/ >> >> -- >> Filipe Saraiva >> http://filipesaraiva.info/ >> >
boot to uefi action represented by check box
Hi, in System Settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Desktop Session we have a check box labelled After next restart: [ ] Enter UEFI Setup screen (see attached screen shot) Is there a reason we do not use a button for this? How it currently works is, if I set the check box, a button appears which I then have to click. Additionally the Apply button of that page activates and I can apply the "settings change" ... which is not applied, because it resets on boot. So what is the reason behind this rather exotic work flow? Cheers, Frederik
Re: Retirement of IRC Services and KDETalk.net (Jabber)
Hello, I only want to comment on two things: > Depending on the level of community interest, we may opt to retain pursuivant however i'd like for it to be rebuilt as a Matrix native service rather than being a continuation of our existing irker based bot that occasionally has issues and falls off. FWIW I always found pursuivant really offputting for some of our groups. In some of them, like the documentation group, it's possible for the channel to be flooded with only bot messages for months. I can't really follow messages there, people who occasionally visit are put off by it and never see any replies either. It becomes a notification group, not a conversation group. If we're turning pursuivant into a Matrix service, I'd also like to ask for it to be used only on dedicated channels, not in rooms where users are expected to interact with other community members. > Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608 members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to Brazilian community. > Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1] As mentioned we have 608 members. Of course, this also includes lurkers (inactive members). I made a recent count and apparently at least 67 are active members. In comparison, we have 12 Matrix members, all of them active, of which 5 are only on Matrix and prefer it over Telegram. One of our Brazilian KDE developers is only on IRC. Another thing to note is that I agree the current state of the bridge is NOT fine. The KDE Matrix Bridge bot gets kicked by the appservice bot too often, forcing me to re-add it, and it keeps sending join/leave notifications to the Telegram side, sometimes literally hundreds, flooding the channel. Our users have started to complain about it. We can pursue an effort to move fully to Matrix as Filipe said, maybe even stage some collaboration with a local homeserver (bolha.chat) for new accounts, or we can stay only on Telegram due to popular demand. We haven't decided yet. I'd personally be in favor of moving to Matrix. Regards, Thiago Sueto Em sáb., 10 de jun. de 2023 às 09:57, Filipe Saraiva escreveu: > Hello Ben, > > Em 21/05/2023 06:37, Ben Cooksley escreveu: > > Given that we are now fairly well migrated to Matrix, the need to > > maintain our Telegram bridging is much reduced, and i'd therefore like > > to retire that without replacement. > > > > Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608 > members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to > Brazilian community. > > Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups > to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at > other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1] > > Best regards; > > [1] https://t2bot.io/telegram/ > > -- > Filipe Saraiva > http://filipesaraiva.info/ >
Re: Retirement of IRC Services and KDETalk.net (Jabber)
Hello Ben, Em 21/05/2023 06:37, Ben Cooksley escreveu: Given that we are now fairly well migrated to Matrix, the need to maintain our Telegram bridging is much reduced, and i'd therefore like to retire that without replacement. Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608 members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to Brazilian community. Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1] Best regards; [1] https://t2bot.io/telegram/ -- Filipe Saraiva http://filipesaraiva.info/ OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
KDE Frameworks 5.107.0 released
10th June 2023. KDE today announces the release of KDE Frameworks 5.107.0. KDE Frameworks are 83 addon libraries to Qt which provide a wide variety of commonly needed functionality in mature, peer reviewed and well tested libraries with friendly licensing terms. For an introduction see https://kde.org/products/frameworks/ Baloo Use common helper for Property/JSON conversion Don't install D-Bus interfaces without BUILD_INDEXER_SERVICE [IdTreeDB] Consolidate put/del into common set Cleanup some leftover stale code [balooshow] Improve display of property and plaintext terms KConfigWidgets KColorSchemeMenu: Remove accelerator markers from scheme name Give KColorSchemeMenu namespace a short description Fixup: Pass scheme name - not path - to KColorSchemeManager::indexForScheme Split menu creating functionality out of KColorSchemeManager KCoreAddons use fcntl to fix macOS compile KDELibs 4 Support kssl: Update for LibreSSL 3.7 KDocTools Add Arabic Support KFileMetaData Cleanup property name/id mapping test Add method to export list of all Property names Reduce PropertyInfo construction overhead Add benchmark for PropertyInfo instantiation KHolidays # Significantly speed up HolidayRegion::defaultRegionCode() KIconThemes KIconTheme: allow to also fallback to Breeze-dark when set through QPA KImageFormats pcx: multiple fixes (2) Avoid unnecessary conversions RGB/SGI writer: fix alpha detection and image limit size TGA writer: fix alpha detection and performance improvements pcx: multiple fixes PCX: Fix reading of the extended palette (bug 463951) KIO Deprecate KIO::AccessManager and related classes Enable thumbnail caching if thumbnail directory is on an encrypted volume (bug 443806) KdirLister: update symlink dir content on file removal (bug 469254) Polish menu before creating platform window Kirigami ActionTextField: Disable shortcut for invisible and disabled text fields BasicListItemTest: Guard against nullable background in ScrollView Fix tst_basiclistitem_tooltip Make it possible to disable BasicListItem tooltip Fix almost all links in the KF5 Kirigami docs Fix painting of non-symbolic icons which are fallbacks for symbolic (bug 451538) KItemModels Preserve numeric sort roles as well KNewStuff Remove KF5TextWidgets remnants KParts PartLoader::createPartInstanceForMimeType(): Avoid compiler detected null pointer access KTextEditor Fix incorrect lineHeight for drag pixmap (bug 468196) Prison Add EAN13 support Factor out code for interfacing with ZXing for barcode generation Security information The released code has been GPG-signed using the following key: pub rsa2048/58D0EE648A48B3BB 2016-09-05 David Faure Primary key fingerprint: 53E6 B47B 45CE A3E0 D5B7 4577 58D0 EE64 8A48 B3BB https://kde.org/announcements/frameworks/5/5.107.0 -- David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr Working on KDE Frameworks 5
