Re: Proposal to deprecate KFloppy

2023-05-20 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El divendres, 28 d’abril de 2023, a les 15:27:35 (CEST), Heiko Becker va 
escriure:
> On Friday, 28 April 2023 15:16:29 CEST, Nate Graham wrote:
> > Does it work for *anyone* with a modern distro? If not, then I
> > think archiving it makes sense. Time marches on. :)
> > 
> > If it does work for *someone* with a modern distro then at the
> > very least the UI needs to detect when it will be broken and
> > tell this to the user in advance to prevent frustration.
> 
> I think it depends on the floppy kernel module, which should provide the
> device nodes Jonathan seems to be missing. AFAIK this kernel module isn't
> needed for "modern" floppy drives connected via USB though, but only for
> the ancient internal ones. That being said, the kernel module is orphaned.
> 
> My personal opionion is that that's enough to stop releasing it (after
> 23.04.3). I also removed it from my distro downstream in 2015 and nobody
> ever even mentioned it.

3 weeks  and no one disagreed.

https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/release-tools/-/commit/7f90de6cdb8eecb423657c88cfb3b37797c6fab3

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Regards,
> Heiko
> 
> > On 4/28/23 06:49, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> >> KFloppy is an old tool to format your floppy diskettes.  We
> >> packaged KFloppy for the Snap store but it doesn't work,
> >> neither does it work for the apt packages.  The code depends on
> >> features of Linux that do not seem to exist any more, expecting
> >> /dev/fd0 and other nodes in /dev.  It also depends on having
> >> tools like fdformat around which are not packages for Ubuntu
> >> any more.  I tested it with an external USB floppy drive.  The
> >> most recent maintainer seems to be Wolfgang Bauer.  Can we
> >> agree to archive it and stop releases?






Re: Proposal to deprecate KFloppy

2023-04-28 Thread Heiko Becker

On Friday, 28 April 2023 15:16:29 CEST, Nate Graham wrote:
Does it work for *anyone* with a modern distro? If not, then I 
think archiving it makes sense. Time marches on. :)


If it does work for *someone* with a modern distro then at the 
very least the UI needs to detect when it will be broken and 
tell this to the user in advance to prevent frustration.


I think it depends on the floppy kernel module, which should provide the 
device nodes Jonathan seems to be missing. AFAIK this kernel module isn't 
needed for "modern" floppy drives connected via USB though, but only for 
the ancient internal ones. That being said, the kernel module is orphaned.


My personal opionion is that that's enough to stop releasing it (after 
23.04.3). I also removed it from my distro downstream in 2015 and nobody 
ever even mentioned it.


Regards,
Heiko


On 4/28/23 06:49, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
KFloppy is an old tool to format your floppy diskettes.  We 
packaged KFloppy for the Snap store but it doesn't work, 
neither does it work for the apt packages.  The code depends on 
features of Linux that do not seem to exist any more, expecting 
/dev/fd0 and other nodes in /dev.  It also depends on having 
tools like fdformat around which are not packages for Ubuntu 
any more.  I tested it with an external USB floppy drive.  The 
most recent maintainer seems to be Wolfgang Bauer.  Can we 
agree to archive it and stop releases?




Re: Proposal to deprecate KFloppy

2023-04-28 Thread Nate Graham
Does it work for *anyone* with a modern distro? If not, then I think 
archiving it makes sense. Time marches on. :)


If it does work for *someone* with a modern distro then at the very 
least the UI needs to detect when it will be broken and tell this to the 
user in advance to prevent frustration.


Nate


On 4/28/23 06:49, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
KFloppy is an old tool to format your floppy diskettes.  We packaged 
KFloppy for the Snap store but it doesn't work, neither does it work for 
the apt packages.  The code depends on features of Linux that do not 
seem to exist any more, expecting /dev/fd0 and other nodes in /dev.  It 
also depends on having tools like fdformat around which are not packages 
for Ubuntu any more.  I tested it with an external USB floppy drive.  
The most recent maintainer seems to be Wolfgang Bauer.  Can we agree to 
archive it and stop releases?


Jonathan



Proposal to deprecate KFloppy

2023-04-28 Thread Jonathan Riddell
KFloppy is an old tool to format your floppy diskettes.  We packaged
KFloppy for the Snap store but it doesn't work, neither does it work for
the apt packages.  The code depends on features of Linux that do not seem
to exist any more, expecting /dev/fd0 and other nodes in /dev.  It also
depends on having tools like fdformat around which are not packages for
Ubuntu any more.  I tested it with an external USB floppy drive.  The most
recent maintainer seems to be Wolfgang Bauer.  Can we agree to archive it
and stop releases?

Jonathan