Re: Keep the Things You Forgot

2013-10-23 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2013, 22.27:18 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> hi :)

Morning guys

> (i stole the subject without shame. but it seemed appropriate given the
> topic)
> 
> we’ve all gotten out of the habit of communicating with the outside world,
> with some notable exceptions. Martin, in particular, has become an
> outstanding blogger.
> 
> the rest of us have been overly quiet. i’m working on getting my
> bloggerificness going again rather than just hiding on irc and g+ ...
> 
> i’d like to invite all of you to blog at least once a week about the
> amazing work everyone is doing with Frameworks 5 and Plasma 2. there is SO
> MUCH ACTIVITY in the repositories and the progress is astounding.
> 
> it is important that the rest of the KDE (and beyond!) community sees this
> movement too so they know what we’re up to and that we’re still running
> ahead at great speed.
> 
> communicating is how we get more contributors, it’s how we get more users,
> it’s how we find more partners, it’s how we remind others to believe as
> much as we do in the things we’re doing.

I'd like to add a big (HUGE) +1 here.

I'm reading several mailing lists (some less to get less distracted from my 
diploma thesis ;-) and it's great to see what your doing and accomplishing 
atm.

Please tell the world, blog as hell!

> love ‘n hugs to you all ...

Another hugger from Switzerland
Mario

PS: And cross your fingers that my two concepts get finally excepted so that I 
can start organizing the Randa Meetings 2014 edition.
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Re: Keep the Things You Forgot

2013-10-24 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2013, 21.49:27 schrieb Mark:

Morning

[snip]

> A blog post that i'd very much like from you (Aaron) is about the next
> big KDE version, the naming and how the complete collection is going
> to be called or if there even will be a collection release (what KDE
> SC is now). Press is still getting that wrong, i tend to get it wrong
> and other people talking about KDE seem to get it wrong. Usually it's
> just being referred to as "KDE 5" which is wrong. (Frameworks 5,
> Plasma 2, ...). So if you have the time, a blog about that would be
> wonderful and very educational ^_^

What about all the recent dot articles about KF5, Plasma 2 and Co? I think you 
won't get it clearer than that.

Best 
Mario
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Re: Keep the Things You Forgot

2013-10-24 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2013, 14.02:16 schrieb Mark:

Morning

[snip]

> You probably mean dot.kde.org/2013/09/25/frameworks-5

And this:
http://dot.kde.org/2013/09/04/kde-release-structure-evolves
 
> That would work but not if that's it. This kind of change is one that has
> to sink in over time so this has to be repeated from time to time.

Of course. That's why there are some more stories in the tube. See promo list 
and co for hints.

Best
Mario
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KF5 at the Randa Meetings this year

2014-02-19 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Morning guys

Just read and you should get the answer:
http://randa-meetings.ch/2014/02/19/randa-meetings-2014-the-date-is-set-
please-register/

Best regards
Mario
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Re: KDE 5 versioning in documentation

2014-02-26 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2014, 22.47:51 schrieb Martin Klapetek:
> Hey,

Morning

[snip]

> > Will the "KDE Software Compilation" still be a thing in the KF5 era,
> > complete with its own versioned releases?  If that's the case, we'll
> > probably just want to change "KDE" to "KDE SC" in the 
> > for frameworks-based apps and call it a day.
> 
> Not in its current form afaik. There will be three big "modules" -
> Frameworks, Plasma and Applications. Given the progress on their "5"
> versions is different, there are also different release schedules for both,
> so no more SC in the current sense (that name also got dropped couple years
> ago, no?).

Correct. The SC was just an engineering/technical term. It was never intended 
to us in promo communication or for end users (of our apps, not our libs). See 
all the recent release announcement. There we never used SC.

> We'd like to put heavy accent on *not* using KDE anymore in around the
> workspace releases, so no more KDE Plasma, but just "Plasma", possibly with
> "by KDE" touch. It'd be awesome to get it away from apps to, so it would
> become "Dolphin for Plasma" instead of "KDE Dolphin" etc.

Dolphin for Plasma shouldn't be used as well, if I see it correctly, as 
Dolphin work on Gnome, razorqt and Co as well and not just on Plasma. So just 
"Dolphin" or "Dolphin by KDE". Plus what Luigi wrote!

> > If we're instead going to release all applications on their own
> > schedules, we'll instead probably just want to drop any mention of a
> > KDE version in applications' documentation.  (Or add "on KDE
> > Frameworks 5" or something like that?)
> 
> I'm not sure what's the plan for apps. Their "4" versions will just work
> with Plasma and we expect to actually ship the first Plasma with
> applications based on kdelibs (please correct me if I'm wrong).
> 
> > I'm also going to submit a review request shortly adding entities for
> > all this new nomenclature so we can refer to it consistently in
> > documentation in KF5-based applications.  People interested in this
> > sort of thing please double-check it for accuracy..
> 
> Cool, make sure you add kdeframeworks group as reviewers.
> 
> Cheers

Best regards
Mario
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Re: KCodecs - Quick Review

2014-03-07 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Dienstag, 04. März 2014, 16.58:11 schrieb John Layt:
> Hi,

Morning

Just a short notice. It looks as if the description on projects.kde.org for 
KCodecs is wrong:


Thx
Mario

> I know nothing about text codecs, but I've had a *very* quick look at
> KCodecs:
> 
> * Original code by Lars dated 1999!
> * One method marked as deprecated to be removed for KDE4
> * "###FIXME KDE4: the name of the encodings should mostly be uppercase"
> * Code generated by script generate_string_table.pl located in
> kdesdk/scripts * Algorithms marked as copyright by RSA Data Security and
> others, but no mention what the original licence was or real link to
> original source * Encoding probers and lookup tables marked as copyright
> Mozilla 1998, X11 license
> * kentities.c is documented as generated by gperf from either
> kentities.gperf and/or khtmlentities.gperf but neither are in kcodecs,
> instead they are in khtml as is another copy of kentities.c.
> * Public API using boolean parms
> 
> This suggests it could do with some attention:
> * Check still valid to remove deprecated code?
> * Check if encoding names should be made uppercase?
> * The generate_string_table.pl script should probably be moved into
> KCodecs, unless it has more general use?
> * The RSA and other algorithms may need checking for licensing issues, or
> at least improve the license documentation?
> * The probers may need to be checked they are still up to date with the
> original Mozilla code and look-up tables?
> * kentities.c needs investigation and I suspect moving all the files from
> khtml to kcodecs, with khtml then using kcodecs?  Or at least docs added
> that this is where it comes from and should be kept in sync.
> 
> I wonder how much of this functionality is now done in Qt5?  Would it
> benefit from a functional review by someone who knows what they're doing,
> like Thiago or David?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> John.


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kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-03-17 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Montag, 17. März 2014, 18.15:09 schrieb Kevin Ottens:
> Hello,

Morning Kevin

> Thanks for the feedback!

Thanks for your coordination!

[snip]

> Now, the last point... What else do we want to move from KDE Frameworks to
> KDE Porting Aids? Aleix and Aaron proposed the following content for KDE
> Porting Aids:
>  * kde4support (obvious);

Just that it doesn't get forgotten I'd like to second Aarons (or who it was) 
proposal to rename kde4support to kdelibs4support at this occasion if it's an 
easy rename! This might be the perfect opportunity. Makes it easier for us 
promo people to tell that there is no "KDE4" as well.

>  * khtml (planned for a long time);
>  * kjs (because of khtml I gather);
>  * kjsembed (ditto);
>  * krunner (because of upcoming sprinter, and only one user anyway);
>  * kmediaplayer (unused AFAIK).
> 
> I think that list makes sense. Is there anyone who couldn't sleep at night
> if those were in KDE Porting Aids?
> 
> Regards.

Thanks
Mario
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