Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w11

2014-03-12 Thread Alex Merry
On 12/03/14 07:56, Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tuesday 11 March 2014 22:19:06 David Gil Oliva wrote:
>> 2014-03-11 16:33 GMT+01:00 Kevin Ottens :
>> Why is that? Are we in a hurry? Is the work in all the frameworks so
>> advanced that we can advance the tagging?
> 
> It just a question of David's availability.
>  
>> BTW, is it allowed to deprecate methods and add new methods from beta1 on?
>> (please forgive my ignorance, I didn't find out what "SIC change" means).
> 
> Yes, but don't break source compatibility one bit.

Specifically, if you have to change any code that *uses* the frameworks
in order to make it compile and behave as it did before (or, at least,
as it was expected to behave), that's a source-incompatible (SIC) change.

So, for example, replacing ints with enums is SIC, because downstream
code may have to insert or remove casts.

Alex

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Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w11

2014-03-12 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello,

On Tuesday 11 March 2014 22:19:06 David Gil Oliva wrote:
> 2014-03-11 16:33 GMT+01:00 Kevin Ottens :
> Why is that? Are we in a hurry? Is the work in all the frameworks so
> advanced that we can advance the tagging?

It just a question of David's availability.
 
> BTW, is it allowed to deprecate methods and add new methods from beta1 on?
> (please forgive my ignorance, I didn't find out what "SIC change" means).

Yes, but don't break source compatibility one bit.

> And, again BTW, the date here isn't updated:
> http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics

I updated it yesterday before sending the meeting minutes... I wonder why you 
still see the old date.

Regards.
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Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w11

2014-03-11 Thread David Gil Oliva
El 11/03/2014 22:58, "Martin Klapetek"  escribió:
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM, David Gil Oliva 
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Announcement:
>>>  * Beta 1 will be tagged on March 28 instead of April 1st as planned
earlier;
>>
>>
>> Why is that? Are we in a hurry? Is the work in all the frameworks so
advanced that we can advance the tagging?
>
>
> It's because David Faure, who will do the packages, is travelling on
April 1 iirc, so it was moved before his travels. The actual release date
should still be April 1st afaik.

Thanks!

> Cheers
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Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w11

2014-03-11 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM, David Gil Oliva
wrote:

>
>> Announcement:
>>  * Beta 1 will be tagged on March 28 instead of April 1st as planned
>> earlier;
>>
>
> Why is that? Are we in a hurry? Is the work in all the frameworks so
> advanced that we can advance the tagging?
>

It's because David Faure, who will do the packages, is travelling on April
1 iirc, so it was moved before his travels. The actual release date should
still be April 1st afaik.

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Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w11

2014-03-11 Thread David Gil Oliva
Hi!


2014-03-11 16:33 GMT+01:00 Kevin Ottens :

> Hello everyone,
>
> This is the minutes of the Week 10 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held
> on
> #kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.
>
> Were present: afiestas, agateau, alexmerry, dfaure, mgraesslin, notmart,
> sebas, teo, tosky and myself.
>
> Announcement:
>  * Beta 1 will be tagged on March 28 instead of April 1st as planned
> earlier;
>

Why is that? Are we in a hurry? Is the work in all the frameworks so
advanced that we can advance the tagging?

BTW, is it allowed to deprecate methods and add new methods from beta1 on?
(please forgive my ignorance, I didn't find out what "SIC change" means).

And, again BTW, the date here isn't updated:
http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics

Cheers,

David Gil



>  * Two tasks up for adoption on
>http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/KF5.0_Release_Preparation
>  * Please nail them down before they turn into release blockers!
>
>  * afiestas has been fixing things around;
>  * he's also working with apol on the kde-runtime split;
>
>  * agateau has been doing mainly build fixes downstream;
>  * he's also been working on some of the cmake files and on api.kde.org;
>  * he then fixed a bug in Doxygen waiting for review;
>  * last but not least he moved the doc policy to community.kde.org;
>
>  * alexmerry is waiting for the maintainers of kdnssd before proceeding
> with
> the rename, timeout on friday;
>  * he's also tracking bugs in kimageformats showing up on non-x86_64
> architectures;
>  * he also proposed ECMFindModuleHelpers macros for ECM and investigates on
> how to generate docs;
>
>  * dfaure is optimizing KConfig to minimize reparsing;
>  * he also plans to improve the KUrl -> QUrl porting scripts;
>
>  * mgraesslin has two open review requests for KWindowSystem which will be
> merged after Plasma Next Alpha tagging;
>
>  * notmart is also waiting for Plasma Next Alpha tagging to move QML
> imports
> in their respective frameworks;
>
>  * sebas is working on kglobalaccel;
>  * he also has a pending patch to make oxygen the default font;
>
>  * teo ported kwalletmanager to KF5;
>  * he still has to port away from kde4support;
>
>  * tosky is fixing the fallout of doctools version bump;
>  * he still has one pending review, still open because it waits on windows
> or
> mac savvy people feedback: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116670/ ;
>  * he also plans to remove all htdig references from kdoctools and
> khelpcenter;
>
>  * ervin has been in review frenzy mode;
>
> If you got questions, feel free to ask.
>
> Regards.
> --
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>
> KDAB - proud supporter of KDE, http://www.kdab.com
>
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KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w11

2014-03-11 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello everyone,

This is the minutes of the Week 10 KF5 meeting. As usual it has been held on 
#kde-devel at 4pm Paris time.

Were present: afiestas, agateau, alexmerry, dfaure, mgraesslin, notmart, 
sebas, teo, tosky and myself.

Announcement:
 * Beta 1 will be tagged on March 28 instead of April 1st as planned earlier;
 * Two tasks up for adoption on 
   http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/KF5.0_Release_Preparation
 * Please nail them down before they turn into release blockers!

 * afiestas has been fixing things around;
 * he's also working with apol on the kde-runtime split;

 * agateau has been doing mainly build fixes downstream;
 * he's also been working on some of the cmake files and on api.kde.org;
 * he then fixed a bug in Doxygen waiting for review;
 * last but not least he moved the doc policy to community.kde.org;

 * alexmerry is waiting for the maintainers of kdnssd before proceeding with 
the rename, timeout on friday;
 * he's also tracking bugs in kimageformats showing up on non-x86_64 
architectures;
 * he also proposed ECMFindModuleHelpers macros for ECM and investigates on 
how to generate docs;

 * dfaure is optimizing KConfig to minimize reparsing;
 * he also plans to improve the KUrl -> QUrl porting scripts;

 * mgraesslin has two open review requests for KWindowSystem which will be 
merged after Plasma Next Alpha tagging;

 * notmart is also waiting for Plasma Next Alpha tagging to move QML imports 
in their respective frameworks;

 * sebas is working on kglobalaccel;
 * he also has a pending patch to make oxygen the default font;

 * teo ported kwalletmanager to KF5;
 * he still has to port away from kde4support;

 * tosky is fixing the fallout of doctools version bump;
 * he still has one pending review, still open because it waits on windows or 
mac savvy people feedback: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116670/ ;
 * he also plans to remove all htdig references from kdoctools and 
khelpcenter;

 * ervin has been in review frenzy mode;

If you got questions, feel free to ask.

Regards.
-- 
Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net

KDAB - proud supporter of KDE, http://www.kdab.com



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