let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
Hey everyone :) It is time to get ready for GSoC 2014. It's another great chance to get some large projects done this year and welcome new enthusiastic people to KDE. I am working on our application. I have started our ideas page at http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas Please go and add projects proposals that you think would be awesome to have a student work on them. Please only add proposals where either you or someone you know are willing to mentor them. If you have ideas but don't have a mentor for them please find a mentor first on the appropriate mailinglist. The ideas page needs to be in good shape by 14 February at 19:00 UTC. Go go go go! ;-) http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas In case of questions please ask on #kde-soc or kde-soc-men...@kde.org. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher KDE e.V. Board of Directors / KDE Community Working Group http://kde.org - http://open-advice.org ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Hey everyone :) > > It is time to get ready for GSoC 2014. It's another great chance to > get some large projects done this year and welcome new enthusiastic > people to KDE. I am working on our application. > I have started our ideas page at > http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas Please go and add projects > proposals that you think would be awesome to have a student work on > them. Please only add proposals where either you or someone you know > are willing to mentor them. If you have ideas but don't have a mentor > for them please find a mentor first on the appropriate mailinglist. > > The ideas page needs to be in good shape by 14 February at 19:00 UTC. > Go go go go! ;-) http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas > In case of questions please ask on #kde-soc or kde-soc-men...@kde.org. Hey folks :) *poke* about this. The ideas page is still looking rather empty and the application deadline is getting closer. Please help with filling up the ideas page. If you have questions or are unsure about a project please ping me to discuss it. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher KDE e.V. Board of Directors / KDE Community Working Group http://kde.org - http://open-advice.org ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >> Hey everyone :) >> >> It is time to get ready for GSoC 2014. It's another great chance to >> get some large projects done this year and welcome new enthusiastic >> people to KDE. I am working on our application. >> I have started our ideas page at >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas Please go and add projects >> proposals that you think would be awesome to have a student work on >> them. Please only add proposals where either you or someone you know >> are willing to mentor them. If you have ideas but don't have a mentor >> for them please find a mentor first on the appropriate mailinglist. >> >> The ideas page needs to be in good shape by 14 February at 19:00 UTC. >> Go go go go! ;-) http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas >> In case of questions please ask on #kde-soc or kde-soc-men...@kde.org. > > Hey folks :) > > *poke* about this. The ideas page is still looking rather empty and > the application deadline is getting closer. Please help with filling > up the ideas page. If you have questions or are unsure about a project > please ping me to discuss it. > > > Cheers > Lydia (only leaving kde-soc-mentor in cc) I do have an idea for KIO in the next GSoC. Revive the KioFuse code to todays KIO version and update it. The start is there [1] and it's even working on kdelibs 4.0 (don't know it's current state). But it would be very wonderful if that could be working and then integrated in Dolphin (and obviously in my Accretion ^_^) Having this would resolve the issue that opening a network file from Dolphin in (for example) mplayer downloads the entire file to your hdd/ssd before opening it in mplayer. The code is here, the opportunity (due to GSoC) is here. All we need now is a student willing to take on this massive task and someone to mentor the student. [1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KioFuse ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Mark Gaiser wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > >> Hey everyone :) > >> > >> It is time to get ready for GSoC 2014. It's another great chance to > >> get some large projects done this year and welcome new enthusiastic > >> people to KDE. I am working on our application. > >> I have started our ideas page at > >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas Please go and add projects > >> proposals that you think would be awesome to have a student work on > >> them. Please only add proposals where either you or someone you know > >> are willing to mentor them. If you have ideas but don't have a mentor > >> for them please find a mentor first on the appropriate mailinglist. > >> > >> The ideas page needs to be in good shape by 14 February at 19:00 UTC. > >> Go go go go! ;-) http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas > >> In case of questions please ask on #kde-soc or kde-soc-men...@kde.org. > > > > Hey folks :) > > > > *poke* about this. The ideas page is still looking rather empty and > > the application deadline is getting closer. Please help with filling > > up the ideas page. If you have questions or are unsure about a project > > please ping me to discuss it. > > > > > > Cheers > > Lydia > > (only leaving kde-soc-mentor in cc) > > I do have an idea for KIO in the next GSoC. > > Revive the KioFuse code to todays KIO version and update it. > The start is there [1] and it's even working on kdelibs 4.0 (don't > know it's current state). But it would be very wonderful if that could > be working and then integrated in Dolphin (and obviously in my > Accretion ^_^) > > Having this would resolve the issue that opening a network file from > Dolphin in (for example) mplayer downloads the entire file to your > hdd/ssd before opening it in mplayer. > > The code is here, the opportunity (due to GSoC) is here. All we need > now is a student willing to take on this massive task and someone to > mentor the student. > > [1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KioFuse > ___ > Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list > Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel > Hi Mark, Feel free to add the proposal yourself. :) It's a wiki. Aleix ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Aleix Pol wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Mark Gaiser wrote: >> >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >> >> Hey everyone :) >> >> >> >> It is time to get ready for GSoC 2014. It's another great chance to >> >> get some large projects done this year and welcome new enthusiastic >> >> people to KDE. I am working on our application. >> >> I have started our ideas page at >> >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas Please go and add projects >> >> proposals that you think would be awesome to have a student work on >> >> them. Please only add proposals where either you or someone you know >> >> are willing to mentor them. If you have ideas but don't have a mentor >> >> for them please find a mentor first on the appropriate mailinglist. >> >> >> >> The ideas page needs to be in good shape by 14 February at 19:00 UTC. >> >> Go go go go! ;-) http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas >> >> In case of questions please ask on #kde-soc or kde-soc-men...@kde.org. >> > >> > Hey folks :) >> > >> > *poke* about this. The ideas page is still looking rather empty and >> > the application deadline is getting closer. Please help with filling >> > up the ideas page. If you have questions or are unsure about a project >> > please ping me to discuss it. >> > >> > >> > Cheers >> > Lydia >> >> (only leaving kde-soc-mentor in cc) >> >> I do have an idea for KIO in the next GSoC. >> >> Revive the KioFuse code to todays KIO version and update it. >> The start is there [1] and it's even working on kdelibs 4.0 (don't >> know it's current state). But it would be very wonderful if that could >> be working and then integrated in Dolphin (and obviously in my >> Accretion ^_^) >> >> Having this would resolve the issue that opening a network file from >> Dolphin in (for example) mplayer downloads the entire file to your >> hdd/ssd before opening it in mplayer. >> >> The code is here, the opportunity (due to GSoC) is here. All we need >> now is a student willing to take on this massive task and someone to >> mentor the student. >> >> [1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KioFuse >> ___ >> Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list >> Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel > > > Hi Mark, > Feel free to add the proposal yourself. :) It's a wiki. > > Aleix > > ___ > Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list > Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel > I know :) Posting this here to see if anyone would be interested in mentoring this. Will add it to the wiki somewhere tomorrow. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
Done: http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_support_for_KIO Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project :) All we need then is someone to mentor that. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Mark Gaiser wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Aleix Pol wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Mark Gaiser wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >>> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: >>> >> Hey everyone :) >>> >> >>> >> It is time to get ready for GSoC 2014. It's another great chance to >>> >> get some large projects done this year and welcome new enthusiastic >>> >> people to KDE. I am working on our application. >>> >> I have started our ideas page at >>> >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas Please go and add projects >>> >> proposals that you think would be awesome to have a student work on >>> >> them. Please only add proposals where either you or someone you know >>> >> are willing to mentor them. If you have ideas but don't have a mentor >>> >> for them please find a mentor first on the appropriate mailinglist. >>> >> >>> >> The ideas page needs to be in good shape by 14 February at 19:00 UTC. >>> >> Go go go go! ;-) http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas >>> >> In case of questions please ask on #kde-soc or kde-soc-men...@kde.org. >>> > >>> > Hey folks :) >>> > >>> > *poke* about this. The ideas page is still looking rather empty and >>> > the application deadline is getting closer. Please help with filling >>> > up the ideas page. If you have questions or are unsure about a project >>> > please ping me to discuss it. >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers >>> > Lydia >>> >>> (only leaving kde-soc-mentor in cc) >>> >>> I do have an idea for KIO in the next GSoC. >>> >>> Revive the KioFuse code to todays KIO version and update it. >>> The start is there [1] and it's even working on kdelibs 4.0 (don't >>> know it's current state). But it would be very wonderful if that could >>> be working and then integrated in Dolphin (and obviously in my >>> Accretion ^_^) >>> >>> Having this would resolve the issue that opening a network file from >>> Dolphin in (for example) mplayer downloads the entire file to your >>> hdd/ssd before opening it in mplayer. >>> >>> The code is here, the opportunity (due to GSoC) is here. All we need >>> now is a student willing to take on this massive task and someone to >>> mentor the student. >>> >>> [1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KioFuse >>> ___ >>> Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list >>> Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> Feel free to add the proposal yourself. :) It's a wiki. >> >> Aleix >> >> ___ >> Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list >> Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel >> > > I know :) > > Posting this here to see if anyone would be interested in mentoring this. > Will add it to the wiki somewhere tomorrow. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Monday, February 10, 2014 01:54:36 PM Mark Gaiser wrote: > Done: > http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_support_for > _KIO > > Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project :) > All we need then is someone to mentor that. > Not you? -- Vishesh Handa ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > On Monday, February 10, 2014 01:54:36 PM Mark Gaiser wrote: >> Done: >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_support_for >> _KIO >> >> Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project :) >> All we need then is someone to mentor that. >> > > Not you? No, certainly not. I know "a bit" about KIO, but others know _way_ more. And guiding a student requires someone with more in depth knowledge then i have. (looking at David Faure ^_-) ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Monday 10 February 2014 16:21:34 Mark Gaiser wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > > On Monday, February 10, 2014 01:54:36 PM Mark Gaiser wrote: > >> Done: > >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_ > >> support_for _KIO > >> > >> Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project :) > >> All we need then is someone to mentor that. > > > > Not you? > > No, certainly not. I know "a bit" about KIO, but others know _way_ > more. And guiding a student requires someone with more in depth > knowledge then i have. (looking at David Faure ^_-) Please only add projects where a mentor is willing to take part of GSoC. Looking at persons that are swamped with other work is nice, but that won't help the potential student who is interested in the project just to find out there is no mentor available. Christoph Feck (kdepepo) ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Monday, February 10, 2014 16:21:34 Mark Gaiser wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > > On Monday, February 10, 2014 01:54:36 PM Mark Gaiser wrote: > >> Done: > >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_support_f > >> or > >> _KIO > >> > >> Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project > >> All we need then is someone to mentor that. > > > > Not you? > > No, certainly not. I know "a bit" about KIO, but others know _way_ > more. And guiding a student requires someone with more in depth > knowledge then i have. (looking at David Faure ^_-) That's a misconception. What a mentor has to do is to show a developer the ropes, get him or her started, but the mentor doesn't have to be an absolute authority in a given domain (but has to realize that). As long as you can point the student towards finding a solution, or tell him/her where to find help, whom to ask, it's perfectly fine to mentor someone. Most of the work in guiding the student is in ... well ... guiding the student, and that's more related to processes such as where to find help, how to get the build set up. In my experience, it's mostly about processes than about absolute knowledge and expertise of a given piece of code. Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:39 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Monday, February 10, 2014 16:21:34 Mark Gaiser wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > >> > >> No, certainly not. I know "a bit" about KIO, but others know _way_ > >> more. And guiding a student requires someone with more in depth > >> knowledge then i have. (looking at David Faure ^_-) > > > > That's a misconception. What a mentor has to do is to show a developer the > > ropes, get him or her started, but the mentor doesn't have to be an > > absolute authority in a given domain (but has to realize that). As long > > as you can point the student towards finding a solution, or tell him/her > > where to find help, whom to ask, it's perfectly fine to mentor someone. > > > > Most of the work in guiding the student is in ... well ... guiding the > > student, and that's more related to processes such as where to find help, > > how to get the build set up. In my experience, it's mostly about > > processes than about absolute knowledge and expertise of a given piece of > > code. > > That is all very well, but the fact is: we should NOT add project > suggestions without having a mentor for it, this gives a very wrong > signal, as students might be interested to work on something but will > not be able to do so without a mentor. So if you add a project, please > make sure you have a mentor for it. The point was to encourage Mark to take up mentoring. Possibly David might be a better person to mentor, but in case he's limited in time (and I'm quite sure he is), someone else can mentor, and David jumps in when and if the code needs a second round of eyeballing. > And no, it is not enough to be able to guide, you also need people > available who can review code. I was able to mentor twice in the past > because I was around to help the student find solutions and nag them > to give the requested regular feedback and to make sure they respected > the deadlines and had somebody to talk to when there are problems, and > I had several people at hand who could do the code reviewing part, > something I definitely can't do myself. So if nobody is around to > review the code, then don't suggest a project, as it is a necessary > step in the process. I agree, though in practice, the work can often be spread out. What works is having one person to do most of the mentoring tasks, and someone else (or more people) who can help with reviewing code. Not everything has to be done by a single person. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
Hi all, On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Monday, February 10, 2014 16:21:34 Mark Gaiser wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: >> > On Monday, February 10, 2014 01:54:36 PM Mark Gaiser wrote: >> >> Done: >> >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_support_f >> >> or >> >> _KIO >> >> >> >> Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project >> >> All we need then is someone to mentor that. >> > >> > Not you? >> >> No, certainly not. I know "a bit" about KIO, but others know _way_ >> more. And guiding a student requires someone with more in depth >> knowledge then i have. (looking at David Faure ^_-) > > That's a misconception. What a mentor has to do is to show a developer the > ropes, get him or her started, but the mentor doesn't have to be an absolute > authority in a given domain (but has to realize that). As long as you can > point the student towards finding a solution, or tell him/her where to find > help, whom to ask, it's perfectly fine to mentor someone. > > Most of the work in guiding the student is in ... well ... guiding the > student, and that's more related to processes such as where to find help, how > to get the build set up. In my experience, it's mostly about processes than > about absolute knowledge and expertise of a given piece of code. That is all very well, but the fact is: we should NOT add project suggestions without having a mentor for it, this gives a very wrong signal, as students might be interested to work on something but will not be able to do so without a mentor. So if you add a project, please make sure you have a mentor for it. And no, it is not enough to be able to guide, you also need people available who can review code. I was able to mentor twice in the past because I was around to help the student find solutions and nag them to give the requested regular feedback and to make sure they respected the deadlines and had somebody to talk to when there are problems, and I had several people at hand who could do the code reviewing part, something I definitely can't do myself. So if nobody is around to review the code, then don't suggest a project, as it is a necessary step in the process. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:39 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: ... >> And no, it is not enough to be able to guide, you also need people >> available who can review code. I was able to mentor twice in the past >> because I was around to help the student find solutions and nag them >> to give the requested regular feedback and to make sure they respected >> the deadlines and had somebody to talk to when there are problems, and >> I had several people at hand who could do the code reviewing part, >> something I definitely can't do myself. So if nobody is around to >> review the code, then don't suggest a project, as it is a necessary >> step in the process. > > I agree, though in practice, the work can often be spread out. What works is > having one person to do most of the mentoring tasks, and someone else (or more > people) who can help with reviewing code. Not everything has to be done by a > single person. That is exactly what I meant: one for the bureaucracy side of the GSoC (what I did), and a group of people to review the code (as done in Amarok) is the ideal setup IMHO Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: let's get ready for Google Summer of Code 2014
On Monday 10 February 2014 16:21:34 Mark Gaiser wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote: > > On Monday, February 10, 2014 01:54:36 PM Mark Gaiser wrote: > >> Done: > >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas#Revive_KioFuse.2C_fuse_support_f > >> or > >> _KIO > >> > >> Lets hope a student comes by and picks that project :) > >> All we need then is someone to mentor that. > > > > Not you? > > No, certainly not. I know "a bit" about KIO, but others know _way_ > more. And guiding a student requires someone with more in depth > knowledge then i have. (looking at David Faure ^_-) I have reservations about the use of FUSE mounts. I fear they behave like NFS mounts: very long timeouts blocking apps (that use synchronous file operations) for entire minutes, when network or server goes down. I could be wrong, since I don't know much about FUSE, but that means the first step is for someone to prove me wrong ;) As it stands, I am not willing to mentor a kiofuse-related project. OTOH there's a ton of porting to be done, but that might be hard to scope for gsoc. -- David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr Working on KDE, in particular KDE Frameworks 5 ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
