Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:13:04 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, June 18, 2019 a las 02:48:34PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > > While testing and configuring things, I'm chocking with two issues: > > > > - I configured zapping (alt-ctrl-backspace) which works, i.e. terminates > > the Xorg server but powers off the laptop. Why? > > > > - The desktop many times comes in an unusable state: the menus (for > > example the Application Launcher or the Hamburger in the upper corner) > > come up as empty, transparent frames, i.e. only the border is painted. > > Somethings seems to be crashing... > > > > This is with r349041 and ports from June 10. > > > > Any comments? > > One question and one joke: > > Is this list kde-freebsd@kde.org meant to be used as a place for asking > for help and hints (and inhabited by people) or is it only meant for svn > commit messages and PR mail addr? > > The joke: My 9 years old son runs FreeBSD with KDE4 on his laptop. This > morning he watched me while I was testing KDE5 and asked me what I was > doing? I said the new desktop which I would be installing soon on his > laptop too. He said, it was looking ugly, for example he missed the red > icon for shutdown, and others :-) Systemsettings -> Plasma Themes. Choose Oxygen theme and enjoy your favorite red button :) Max
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
El día Tuesday, June 18, 2019 a las 02:48:34PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > While testing and configuring things, I'm chocking with two issues: > > - I configured zapping (alt-ctrl-backspace) which works, i.e. terminates > the Xorg server but powers off the laptop. Why? > > - The desktop many times comes in an unusable state: the menus (for > example the Application Launcher or the Hamburger in the upper corner) > come up as empty, transparent frames, i.e. only the border is painted. > Somethings seems to be crashing... > > This is with r349041 and ports from June 10. > > Any comments? One question and one joke: Is this list kde-freebsd@kde.org meant to be used as a place for asking for help and hints (and inhabited by people) or is it only meant for svn commit messages and PR mail addr? The joke: My 9 years old son runs FreeBSD with KDE4 on his laptop. This morning he watched me while I was testing KDE5 and asked me what I was doing? I said the new desktop which I would be installing soon on his laptop too. He said, it was looking ugly, for example he missed the red icon for shutdown, and others :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators!
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
El día Tuesday, June 18, 2019 a las 09:48:16AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > For the transition from KDE4 to KDE5 I have two more silly questions: In > my HOME the KDE4 configuration is below ~/.local and ~/.kde4. When I now > start KDE5 for the first time, will this (the desktop) somehow migrated, > as far as possible? Or will it even be in the way and should be deleted > before? While testing and configuring things, I'm chocking with two issues: - I configured zapping (alt-ctrl-backspace) which works, i.e. terminates the Xorg server but powers off the laptop. Why? - The desktop many times comes in an unusable state: the menus (for example the Application Launcher or the Hamburger in the upper corner) come up as empty, transparent frames, i.e. only the border is painted. Somethings seems to be crashing... This is with r349041 and ports from June 10. Any comments? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators!
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
For the transition from KDE4 to KDE5 I have two more silly questions: In my HOME the KDE4 configuration is below ~/.local and ~/.kde4. When I now start KDE5 for the first time, will this (the desktop) somehow migrated, as far as possible? Or will it even be in the way and should be deleted before? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators!
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 21:02, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día lunes, junio 17, 2019 a las 09:50:47a. m. -0400, Dwayne MacKinnon > escribió: > > > Hi Matthias, > > > > If I'm not using sddm, I use the following in my .xinitrc for kf5: > > > > exec ck-launch-session startkde > > > > There are advantages, I've found, to having ConsoleKit invoked. > > > > As for poudriere, doing a bulk build on x11/kde5 should pull in > everything you > > need. I use poudriere all the time with that entry in my build file. > > > Hi, > > I have a poudriere build file of around 400++ lines of ports: > > $ wc -l myThings/FreeBSD/poudriere-list > 432 myThings/FreeBSD/poudriere-list > > among these (now) x11/kde5. My poudriere oven (a rackmount Dell > PowerEdge r210) builds based on this around 2100 packages in around 48 > hours. This afternoon I installed the system (r349041) and the repo of > the 2100 ports to an external USB disk, pkg-installed kde5 and xorg > while chrooting into it, rebooted from it, tweaked a bit my home and > KDE5 came up fine with 'startx' with the .xinitrc as you say, just for > run a test. Ofc there is a lot to change/configure inside KDE5 (and a > lot to learn if one comes from KDE4). > > A big thanks to all KDE @ FreeBSD folks to bring this to our ports tree. No worries :) mfg Tobias > > Btw: What is 'kf5' exactly as naming? > > matthias > > > -- > Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ > +49-176-38902045 > Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub > May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators! >
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
"kf5" is KDE Frameworks 5. https://techbase.kde.org/KDE_Frameworks Cheers, DMK On Monday, June 17, 2019 3:02:21 P.M. EDT Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día lunes, junio 17, 2019 a las 09:50:47a. m. -0400, Dwayne MacKinnon escribió: > > Hi Matthias, > > > > If I'm not using sddm, I use the following in my .xinitrc for kf5: > > > > exec ck-launch-session startkde > > > > There are advantages, I've found, to having ConsoleKit invoked. > > > > As for poudriere, doing a bulk build on x11/kde5 should pull in everything > > you need. I use poudriere all the time with that entry in my build file. > Hi, > > I have a poudriere build file of around 400++ lines of ports: > > $ wc -l myThings/FreeBSD/poudriere-list > 432 myThings/FreeBSD/poudriere-list > > among these (now) x11/kde5. My poudriere oven (a rackmount Dell > PowerEdge r210) builds based on this around 2100 packages in around 48 > hours. This afternoon I installed the system (r349041) and the repo of > the 2100 ports to an external USB disk, pkg-installed kde5 and xorg > while chrooting into it, rebooted from it, tweaked a bit my home and > KDE5 came up fine with 'startx' with the .xinitrc as you say, just for > run a test. Ofc there is a lot to change/configure inside KDE5 (and a > lot to learn if one comes from KDE4). > > A big thanks to all KDE @ FreeBSD folks to bring this to our ports tree. > > Btw: What is 'kf5' exactly as naming? > > matthias
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
El día lunes, junio 17, 2019 a las 09:50:47a. m. -0400, Dwayne MacKinnon escribió: > Hi Matthias, > > If I'm not using sddm, I use the following in my .xinitrc for kf5: > > exec ck-launch-session startkde > > There are advantages, I've found, to having ConsoleKit invoked. > > As for poudriere, doing a bulk build on x11/kde5 should pull in everything > you > need. I use poudriere all the time with that entry in my build file. Hi, I have a poudriere build file of around 400++ lines of ports: $ wc -l myThings/FreeBSD/poudriere-list 432 myThings/FreeBSD/poudriere-list among these (now) x11/kde5. My poudriere oven (a rackmount Dell PowerEdge r210) builds based on this around 2100 packages in around 48 hours. This afternoon I installed the system (r349041) and the repo of the 2100 ports to an external USB disk, pkg-installed kde5 and xorg while chrooting into it, rebooted from it, tweaked a bit my home and KDE5 came up fine with 'startx' with the .xinitrc as you say, just for run a test. Ofc there is a lot to change/configure inside KDE5 (and a lot to learn if one comes from KDE4). A big thanks to all KDE @ FreeBSD folks to bring this to our ports tree. Btw: What is 'kf5' exactly as naming? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: moving from KDE4 to KDE5
Hi Matthias, If I'm not using sddm, I use the following in my .xinitrc for kf5: exec ck-launch-session startkde There are advantages, I've found, to having ConsoleKit invoked. As for poudriere, doing a bulk build on x11/kde5 should pull in everything you need. I use poudriere all the time with that entry in my build file. Cheers, DMK On Monday, June 17, 2019 6:12:38 A.M. EDT Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I'm moving on FreeBSD CURRENT with ports tree as of June 10 from KDE4 to > KDE5 for the first time. I've compiled ~2000 ports with poudriere, for the > KDE5 I just let it compile 'x11/kde5' and all its dependencies. Is this > enough to get KDE5 on the screen or do I miss essentials ports? > > In KDE4 I started the desktop with the 'startx' command and a correct > ~/.xinitrc as: > > exec /usr/local/bin/startkde > > and as well the file ~/.xserverrc as: > > exec X -retro -logverbose 6 -listen > > Will the same work for KDE5? Can someone please point me to a good > documentation for experienced FreeBSD and KDE4 user, but KDE5 dummies, like > me? > > Thanks > > matthias
moving from KDE4 to KDE5
Hello, I'm moving on FreeBSD CURRENT with ports tree as of June 10 from KDE4 to KDE5 for the first time. I've compiled ~2000 ports with poudriere, for the KDE5 I just let it compile 'x11/kde5' and all its dependencies. Is this enough to get KDE5 on the screen or do I miss essentials ports? In KDE4 I started the desktop with the 'startx' command and a correct ~/.xinitrc as: exec /usr/local/bin/startkde and as well the file ~/.xserverrc as: exec X -retro -logverbose 6 -listen Will the same work for KDE5? Can someone please point me to a good documentation for experienced FreeBSD and KDE4 user, but KDE5 dummies, like me? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators!
