Re: [kdenlive] Black video when rendering with v0.9.10

[Narcis Garcia]

Tried melt to render same project, and result has visible video track.
It seems to not being a melt problem: only Kdenlive.
How can I find the problem with Kdenlive?


On 06/03/16 14:28, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle wrote:
> On Sunday, March 6, 2016 10:44:38 AM CET, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> I've tested this command and produces right a video file:
>> $ melt clip.ogv -consumer avformat:result.mp4 vcodec=libx264
>>
>> What (and how) can I test about a sample Kdenlive project?
> 
> Kdenlive project files can be used like clips in melt command line.
> Try:
> 
> melt myproject.kdenlive -consumer avformat:result.mp4 vcodec=libx264
> 
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Re: [kdenlive] Kdenlive website and brand logo?

[Simon Eugster]

I like this one very much! It is compact, has the right format for an icon,
and is expressive. Good work!
Don't like the font however, the k looks like it is going to fall apart to
a l <, and the dot on the i is almost invisible.

2016-03-08 14:22 GMT+01:00 farid abdelnour :

> a new proposal:
>
> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265=131250=352861#p352861
>
> i hope you find this more interesting :)
>
> 2016-03-05 15:10 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht :
>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> (sorry for the delay, this got into the wrong mail folder)
>>
>> your explanations are clear and I understand them. You stance isd
>> basically is similar in some way to how I see it, albeit my stance on the
>> film metaphor is less strict.
>>
>> My impression is that the professional NLVE makers went for the more
>> abstract designs because you can't get a trademark on a graphical icon if
>> it is too generic with respect to the film strip. The more abstract, the
>> more colors, then you stand out -- on the price of not conveying an NLVE's
>> purpose anymore.
>>
>> While it is nice to deploy subtle graphics, I don't see how this can work
>> in the restricted space of an application icon. Maybe that's also the
>> reason for me not being exactly thrilled with a logo design that is already
>> too-detailed. In fact, I actually like the rather flat appearance of the
>> Breeze and Microsoft new icon sets. Seems I'm getting into that age where
>> you tone-down colors and rather focus on shape. ;)
>>
>> Unfortunately, the simple play icon nowadays used for video also stands
>> for ... well, play. But not create. How could we signal that this is about
>> "creating video" in the sense of creating the final rendered video, and not
>> simply consuming video?
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Harald
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 04.03.2016 um 12:32 schrieb Sam Muirhead:
>>
>> Hi Harald, thanks for your input. For me the problem with the film strip
>> is not that it doesn't adequately represent 'moving image', of course you
>> are right, it is very effective for that.
>>
>> My problem with it is that it doesn't come across as particularly
>> professional.
>> It is used a lot in consumer or amateur environments to very quickly get
>> across the idea that 'this is something for video'. But here you can see a
>> comparison of a few logos with more amateur-focused programs on the left
>> and professional programs on the right:
>> http://www.cameralibre.cc/wp-content/uploads/amateur-vs-pro.png
>>
>> Well, personally I find both Lightworks and Final Cut's logos a bit
>> dated, but even so, pro software just isn't using the film strip anymore -
>> not because it doesn't communicate 'video' well, but because it doesn't
>> communicate 'pro video' very well. In the pro world, the only likely place
>> you will find a film strip in a logo is in software which genuinely
>> interacts with film (film restoration/telecine/conform etc).
>> You see it as well in the naming of programs. Something with 'Movie' in
>> the title and a film strip in the logo is targeted at consumer use.
>> Something with 'Video' in the title and a more abstract/less 'friendly'
>> logo is targeted at professionals.
>>
>> You gave the example of the floppy disk. Yes, it works very well for a
>> 'save' icon, it's a distinctive shape and it has become part of our digital
>> culture. But you wouldn't use a floppy disk image as the icon for
>> professional enterprise-level backup software.
>>
>> Regarding the 'rewind K' I'm not proposing it as a logo but rather one
>> metaphor which could be subtly incorporated in a design, if it fits. It
>> should first be seen as a K, and only on second glance, or once it is
>> pointed out, should you see it as a rewind symbol as well.
>> For me 'rewind' is a perfectly adequate symbol for a story-oriented video
>> editor - as opposed to a media player, where I just want to hit play, when
>> I'm editing a story I want to go back and forth through the material again
>> and again.
>> I hope this makes my perspective clearer!
>> kind regards,
>> Sam
>> 
>> Sam Muirhead
>> Open Source / Video
>> http://cameralibre.cc
>> http://openitagency.eu
>> https://OSCEdays.org
>>
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Re: [kdenlive] Comparision between Kdenlive and AVID, Premiere and FCP

[Massimo Stella]

Thanks Farid.
I hope it'll be useful.
If your friends want to partecipate they are welcome.
I'm sure that more informations and more suggestions can make Kdenlive 
always better in the future.


Ciao.
Massimo.


Il 08/03/2016 15:15, farid abdelnour ha scritto:
beautiful massimo! i will show my editor friends who use proprietary 
software maybe they can chip in as well. thanks for the great work.


cheers!

2016-03-04 21:54 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella >:


Dear friends I finally finished the documents I promised during
the Kdenlive café about the comparision between Kdenlive and AVID,
Premiere and FCP.
I hope it'll be useful for a brainstorming about the new roadmap I
hope we'll discuss on the next Kdenlive café on march 25.

I published it on the Kdenlive site:
https://kdenlive.org/node/9458

and on the KDE Community Wiki:
https://community.kde.org/User:Massimo

I'm awaiting for feedbacks.
Thanks in advance.

Massimo Stella.

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Re: [kdenlive] Comparision between Kdenlive and AVID, Premiere and FCP

[farid abdelnour]

beautiful massimo! i will show my editor friends who use proprietary
software maybe they can chip in as well. thanks for the great work.

cheers!

2016-03-04 21:54 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Dear friends I finally finished the documents I promised during the
> Kdenlive café about the comparision between Kdenlive and AVID, Premiere and
> FCP.
> I hope it'll be useful for a brainstorming about the new roadmap I hope
> we'll discuss on the next Kdenlive café on march 25.
>
> I published it on the Kdenlive site:
> https://kdenlive.org/node/9458
>
> and on the KDE Community Wiki:
> https://community.kde.org/User:Massimo
>
> I'm awaiting for feedbacks.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Massimo Stella.
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Re: [kdenlive] Kdenlive website and brand logo?

[farid abdelnour]

a new proposal:

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265=131250=352861#p352861

i hope you find this more interesting :)

2016-03-05 15:10 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht :

> Hi Sam,
>
> (sorry for the delay, this got into the wrong mail folder)
>
> your explanations are clear and I understand them. You stance isd
> basically is similar in some way to how I see it, albeit my stance on the
> film metaphor is less strict.
>
> My impression is that the professional NLVE makers went for the more
> abstract designs because you can't get a trademark on a graphical icon if
> it is too generic with respect to the film strip. The more abstract, the
> more colors, then you stand out -- on the price of not conveying an NLVE's
> purpose anymore.
>
> While it is nice to deploy subtle graphics, I don't see how this can work
> in the restricted space of an application icon. Maybe that's also the
> reason for me not being exactly thrilled with a logo design that is already
> too-detailed. In fact, I actually like the rather flat appearance of the
> Breeze and Microsoft new icon sets. Seems I'm getting into that age where
> you tone-down colors and rather focus on shape. ;)
>
> Unfortunately, the simple play icon nowadays used for video also stands
> for ... well, play. But not create. How could we signal that this is about
> "creating video" in the sense of creating the final rendered video, and not
> simply consuming video?
>
> With best regards,
> Harald
>
>
>
> Am 04.03.2016 um 12:32 schrieb Sam Muirhead:
>
> Hi Harald, thanks for your input. For me the problem with the film strip
> is not that it doesn't adequately represent 'moving image', of course you
> are right, it is very effective for that.
>
> My problem with it is that it doesn't come across as particularly
> professional.
> It is used a lot in consumer or amateur environments to very quickly get
> across the idea that 'this is something for video'. But here you can see a
> comparison of a few logos with more amateur-focused programs on the left
> and professional programs on the right:
> http://www.cameralibre.cc/wp-content/uploads/amateur-vs-pro.png
>
> Well, personally I find both Lightworks and Final Cut's logos a bit dated,
> but even so, pro software just isn't using the film strip anymore - not
> because it doesn't communicate 'video' well, but because it doesn't
> communicate 'pro video' very well. In the pro world, the only likely place
> you will find a film strip in a logo is in software which genuinely
> interacts with film (film restoration/telecine/conform etc).
> You see it as well in the naming of programs. Something with 'Movie' in
> the title and a film strip in the logo is targeted at consumer use.
> Something with 'Video' in the title and a more abstract/less 'friendly'
> logo is targeted at professionals.
>
> You gave the example of the floppy disk. Yes, it works very well for a
> 'save' icon, it's a distinctive shape and it has become part of our digital
> culture. But you wouldn't use a floppy disk image as the icon for
> professional enterprise-level backup software.
>
> Regarding the 'rewind K' I'm not proposing it as a logo but rather one
> metaphor which could be subtly incorporated in a design, if it fits. It
> should first be seen as a K, and only on second glance, or once it is
> pointed out, should you see it as a rewind symbol as well.
> For me 'rewind' is a perfectly adequate symbol for a story-oriented video
> editor - as opposed to a media player, where I just want to hit play, when
> I'm editing a story I want to go back and forth through the material again
> and again.
> I hope this makes my perspective clearer!
> kind regards,
> Sam
> 
> Sam Muirhead
> Open Source / Video
> http://cameralibre.cc
> http://openitagency.eu
> https://OSCEdays.org
>
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