Re: "File rendering"
Hi I'm a linux user for 20 years now, and I don't see free codecs win the race > now. I could make ogv files (webm), but my goal is to be read now, not in > the future. I regret that but mp4 is the only really universal codec. That > don't prevent you from using an other. > > we are promoting with Ethic Cinema anyway. Web browsers are not the >> only place where you watch movies >> > > my users do use browsers or smartphones (including iphones to my > displeasure :-) > maybe one day we could use something like this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mox-file-format#/ -- .1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| http://www.gunga.com.br";>gunga http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br";>tempoecoarte http://www.atelier-labs.org";>atelier-labs http://www.mocambos.net";>rede mocambos
Re: "File rendering"
Le 18/12/2016 à 18:36, François Téchené a écrit : with more and more coming free licensed film productions. I'm a linux user for 20 years now, and I don't see free codecs win the race now. I could make ogv files (webm), but my goal is to be read now, not in the future. I regret that but mp4 is the only really universal codec. That don't prevent you from using an other. we are promoting with Ethic Cinema anyway. Web browsers are not the only place where you watch movies my users do use browsers or smartphones (including iphones to my displeasure :-) Please, do consider free formats as much as you consider H264 ones. well, I wont answer anymore to this part of the discussion, I don't want to drive an unuseful codec flame war... jdd
Re: "File rendering"
Even if H264 is currently the main format, WebM should be made available to the user. WebM is a professional grade format as much as H264 is. Also it is not proprietary. Its usage should be progressing with more and more coming free licensed film productions. It is what we are promoting with Ethic Cinema anyway. Web browsers are not the only place where you watch movies and software like VLC have no problem reading WebM. As of today, free format seem to be useless because their proprietary alternatives seem to be giving their users many freedom, which may not be the case forever and there is nothing one can do about it. At Ethic Cinema, we are building our internal workflow around free formats only so we make sure to avoid any restrictions with using them in the future. Please, do consider free formats as much as you consider H264 ones. Thanks! :) François On 18 déc. 2016, at 12:10, jdd wrote: > Le 18/12/2016 à 11:44, Lionel Allorge a écrit : >> Hi, >> >>> IMHO the only universal format is mp4... but I don't want to start a >>> license flame war :-( >> >> The problem with mp4 are the software patents. That's why projects that >> want to keep information free like Wikipedia avoid this file format and >> use only webm and ogg theora : >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_types >> >> Best regards. >> > I konw, but not any browser use free codecs... including in html5 > > jdd
16.12 release video
Thanks Iwan! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWarCIoQAhs -- .1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| http://www.gunga.com.br";>gunga http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br";>tempoecoarte http://www.atelier-labs.org";>atelier-labs http://www.mocambos.net";>rede mocambos
Re: "File rendering"
Le 18/12/2016 à 11:44, Lionel Allorge a écrit : Hi, IMHO the only universal format is mp4... but I don't want to start a license flame war :-( The problem with mp4 are the software patents. That's why projects that want to keep information free like Wikipedia avoid this file format and use only webm and ogg theora : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_types Best regards. I konw, but not any browser use free codecs... including in html5 jdd
Re: "File rendering"
Hi, > IMHO the only universal format is mp4... but I don't want to start a > license flame war :-( The problem with mp4 are the software patents. That's why projects that want to keep information free like Wikipedia avoid this file format and use only webm and ogg theora : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_types Best regards. -- Lionel Allorge April : http://www.april.org Lune Rouge : http://www.lunerouge.org Wikimedia France : http://wikimedia.fr
Re: "File rendering"
Hi, > Agreed with your point: I reorganized the formats, making webm #1... in > January 2016, just after the 15.12 release! > So if you upgrade to a newer version (16.12 recommended of course!) you could > enjoy this simpler format selection. Great ! Many thanks. Best regards. -- Lionel Allorge April : http://www.april.org Lune Rouge : http://www.lunerouge.org Wikimedia France : http://wikimedia.fr
