Re: how to get a log ?
Hello, Indeed, I reset Kdenlive configs and it works. I think the reason was because Kdenlive was initialized with the Nouveau driver on the system. Then, when switched to Nvidia prorietary driver, the config was broken. Thanks for you help. Loïc Le 2019-12-07 02:57, farid abdelnour a écrit : > Hi Loïc > >> Kdenlive is installed on many machines at school but it crash on one of >> them. > > I am guessing you are running Linux since you mention Flowblade below, so > which distribution? Which version of Kdenlive? Is it AppImage, PPA, distro > package? Which MLT version is distro package? > > If I understand correctly it is happening only with one machine? It must have > the same hardware as the rest right? Since you > >> As soon I try to display something on the monitor (even a simple >> generated color), it crash. > > Do you have GPU processing turned on? Can you maybe reset all of Kdenlive's > configs. Go to Help -> Reset configuration and see here as well: > https://community.kde.org/Kdenlive/Configuration > >> When I import a clip (I try with many formats : MP4, Apple Prores, >> DnxHD,...) and wait for a few seconds, it crash... (without trying to >> display it on the monitor) >> >> I've checked with Flowblade (also based on MLT) and it works. >> >> Is it possible to run Kdenlive with a --debug property or get a log file >> to check where it can come from ? > > Can you compile it and run it with GDB? See here: > https://community.kde.org/Kdenlive/Development/KF5#Compile_Kdenlive > > Otherwise just run it from the terminal and see if it gives a clue. > >> Thanks > > Let us know how that goes... > >> Loïc > > -- > .1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة > fsf member #5439 > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > http://www.gunga.com.br;>gunga > http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br;>tempoecoarte > http://www.atelier-labs.org;>atelier-labs > http://www.mocambos.net;>rede mocambos
how to get a log ?
Hello, Kdenlive is installed on many machines at school but it crash on one of them. As soon I try to display something on the monitor (even a simple generated color), it crash. When I import a clip (I try with many formats : MP4, Apple Prores, DnxHD,...) and wait for a few seconds, it crash... (without trying to display it on the monitor) I've checked with Flowblade (also based on MLT) and it works. Is it possible to run Kdenlive with a --debug property or get a log file to check where it can come from ? Thanks Loïc
Small Bug in Kdenlive 19.12 RC
Hello, There is a small bug in the RC (and it was not on pervious version). It happens when you play something on the monitor (from clip or on timeline) : - display something on monitor (clip or timeline) - play it (play button or spacebar) and stop it - when you want to go back to previous frame (with left arrow of the keyboard), it doesn't work. - if you go to next frame (right arrow), then it's OK and you can go back to previous frame Loïc
Re: Multiple timelines and timeline imbrication
Thank you very mush for these informations, Farid. For sure I will get the message across. Jean-Daniel explain me about the "hidden" :-) SHIFT + R shortcut ! It will help a lot of people for editing (now I've seen that it is indeed on shortcuts list). Cheers Le 2019-11-27 15:43, farid abdelnour a écrit : > Hi Loïc > > Em seg., 25 de nov. de 2019 às 21:29, > escreveu: > >> Dear Kdenlive Team, >> >> Do you consider timeline refactoring stable enough to implement timeline >> imbrication (and the possibility to add multiple timelines to a project) >> ? > > Yes, this is in the roadmap. Hopefully we manage to get it in for the 20.04 > or 20.08 release. > >> Only one timeline limit Kdenlive usage for editing short films. When you >> have a lot of material, it's not easy to manage a project with only one >> timeline. >> >> There is also 2 (small) uncomfortable behaviors : >> >> - when you play a media then move the cursor on the timeline, the >> playing action continue (it will be more comfortable to stop playback >> when the cursor is moved). > > This has been fixed in master branch, hopefully it makes it for next 19.12 > release. > >> - when you select precisely an image with the keyboard arrows then you >> want to cut (X tool) at the selected frame, you need actually to >> zoom in to be sure that the cut will apply at the current image. > > As others have said you can use "shift + r", I personally have mapped the > shortcut to just "r". Definitely we can improve the usability of this tool. > >> It's a common feedback from Kdenlive users at the École d'Art d'Uccle >> (in Brussels) where there is 30 students from 12 to 60 years old using >> Kdenlive as main editor for their films. > > Nice to hear. Say hello from the Kdenlive team to all and do share their > edits when you can. :) > >> Very happy to see Kdenlive becoming better and more stable on every >> release. Thank you for your work. > > Yes, definitely it hasn't been a year since the new code is out and it has > improved a lot. Next versions are very promising. Stay tuned. :) > >> Loïc Vanderstichelen > > Cheers > > -- > .1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة > fsf member #5439 > usuario GNU/Linux #471966 > |_|0|_| > |_|_|0| > |0|0|0| > http://www.gunga.com.br;>gunga > http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br;>tempoecoarte > http://www.atelier-labs.org;>atelier-labs > http://www.mocambos.net;>rede mocambos
Multiple timelines and timeline imbrication
Dear Kdenlive Team, Do you consider timeline refactoring stable enough to implement timeline imbrication (and the possibility to add multiple timelines to a project) ? Only one timeline limit Kdenlive usage for editing short films. When you have a lot of material, it's not easy to manage a project with only one timeline. There is also 2 (small) uncomfortable behaviors : - when you play a media then move the cursor on the timeline, the playing action continue (it will be more comfortable to stop playback when the cursor is moved). - when you select precisely an image with the keyboard arrows then you want to cut (X tool) at the selected frame, you need actually to zoom in to be sure that the cut will apply at the current image. It's a common feedback from Kdenlive users at the École d'Art d'Uccle (in Brussels) where there is 30 students from 12 to 60 years old using Kdenlive as main editor for their films. Very happy to see Kdenlive becoming better and more stable on every release. Thank you for your work. Loïc Vanderstichelen
Re: A story of a former Kdenlive's user (switched to Olive)
Hi everybody, There is a plenty of ways to use an NLE. It depends what your purpose. If you are a Youtuber, a documentary editor, a fiction editor or a news editor it's not exactlly the same mathod of editing. I the company I'm working (so in the proprietary world), they use Edius for news and they use Premiere for promo clips, social networks. My friends who are making documentary films or fiction use Avid (they come from INSAS cinema school in Brussels). Some of them are testing Da Vinci Resolve but they are thinking that is not ready yet. Why Edius for news ? It's very fast. Effects are terrible but it's really really fast. Perfect when you need to deliver something quickly. Why Premiere for clips ? Because Adobe has a lot of experience in typography and in graphics. You can deliver quickly something graphically convincing in the Adobe environment. Why Avid for filmmakers ? It has been thought by filmmakers. The question is what kind of editing style Kdenlive is mainly focusing ? As filmmaker (and teacher) Olive is more performant in effects but it is not as good as Kdenlive to organize a project (no comments in the project bin, no decklink support). Olive has the possibility to imbricate multiple timelines. I hope refactory will bring that function very soon to Kdenlive because it's absolutly essential when you edit documentary or fiction film. Effects are not important to me as long as it is possible to export on a compositer like Blender (or Natron if it still exists ?). Same for audio : it's mush more confortable to mix on a specific application (Ardour ?) François, do you share a link to your python script ? Cheers, Loïc Le 2019-05-12 19:44, François Téchené a écrit : Hi, I take this opportunity to give you my personal feedback about Kdenlive vs Olive as I have been using Kdenlive professionally for the last 3 years and I have also tried Olive recently. I have also been pretty much impressed by Olive, especially the GPU features that make a smooth experience with almost every filter and every transition. I believe that Olive is pretty promising, and I am watching its evolution closely, but it is still not matching my requirements in term of stability and features, especially in term of color grading. Kdenive, however, has been improving so much in the past 3 years and is now pretty close to match all my requirements. It is not using GPU rendering but its proxy and preview features are so convenient that it makes any processing intensive editing never be an issue. It has almost no limit in that regard, not even the limit of my GPU capacities. I would also add that scrubbing is always very smooth for me on Kdenlive, while it is not yet on Olive (this is a must have for me). Also, the color grading in Kdenlive is a real pleasure. I do an intense use of blending modes as well as a few filters like saturation and levels. I also use the Waveforme and Vectorscope graphs that work perfectly on Kdenlive. One thing that was really missing in Kdenlive is the ability to port my timeline to Ardour, but I have done a python script to achieve that, as part of my latest project, and I am going to share that as free software. Here is my latest work (I am making a behind the scene video to show my workflow) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0a03NRpX3Y I have mainly used Kdenlive for that video. It seems pretty simple because there is no visual effects nor crazy transitions but believe me the work I have done on the color is pretty advanced and process intensive. So my conclusion is that while Olive is very promising, Kdenlive remains a lot more suited to my professional workflow. Cheers, François On 11/05/2019 17:27, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: Hey! I've read Harald's e-mail and I thought maybe I'll share my Kdenlvie experience with you as well. I've been a heavy Kdenlive user for about 18 months, when I switched from Blender VSE, seeing it's not being worked on and I cannot expect the bugs that cripple my workflow to be ever fixed. About two months ago I've upgraded from 16 to 32 GB of RAM to help myself with editing videos in Kdenlive. A month later I immediately gave up using Kdeinlive, after I've discovered Olive. Olive is a very young project (about 20 months in development at this point). And it made me realize how painful it is to do my work with Kdenlive (or Blender VSE to be fair). Olive uses OpenGL for all image processing. It uses GLSL shaders for effects and compositing. I was even able to create a Despill effect myself to get a better Green Screen compositing. That being said I have a feeling that my trouble with Kdenlive will not lead to any progress, and I prefer to have issues with Olive that has a promising start and a community I can get in touch with easily. Also - it gives me an order of magnitude better experience than anything else right away, so why shouldn't iI use it? A minro problem was for the past year (or something?) I
Do you need a Blackmagic Decklink Mini Monitor Card ?
Dear Kdenlive Team, I don't know if you have a blackmagic decklink mini monitor card for testing (for December release ?) ? I ask you this because we have at work a card that we don't use... May be I can ask my boss if it's possible to give you this card if it can help ? It's an internal PCI-E card. If you are interested, please let me know and I will deal with him if I can send you this card. Loïc Le 2018-09-13 18:38, j...@kdenlive.org a écrit : On September 12, 2018 11:09:03 AM GMT+02:00, l...@loicvanderstichelen.com wrote: Hello Kdenlive Team ! Hello Loïc, Thanks for your message and great to hear this news! As we did last year, we will continue to use Kdenlive in our Atelier Vidéo in Brussels [1](École d'Art d'Uccle). The idea of this atelier is to propose a workflow only based on free software. (with an exception for DaVinci Resolve). Here is the list of software we will use : - ffmpeg (only for transcoding and unify formats) - magic lantern (on a canon 5dm3) - mlvapp [2] (process raw files) - audacity - openDCP (if needed...) - kdenlive (for editing) - gimp - krita - natron (compositing) I will rebuild a website for our atelier and share infos on our experiences (for the moment it's only the global site of the school on which I have no control). If some of you live in Brussels and are interested, you're welcome. I just have a question about Kdenlive : Is the Blackmagic Mini Monitor output disabled in Kdenlive ? (it works on Shotcut and, as I remember, it works before on old Kdenlive version Yes that's correct. The Blackmagic output was disabled during the KF5 port some time ago and I didn't find time to add it back :(. The feature is part of MLT so it wouldn't be that hard to re-introduce. Hope we can manage to make it work gor the december version. Best regards Jean-Baptiste but I forgot which one). On configure -> Playback everytime I click on the _refresh_ icon for an external card, it _append_ a BlackMagic Mini Monitor on the list but nothing append. If it's voluntary disabled for devel purpose, I just will stop checking how to make it works. Is some of you use this kind of card, do you have the same issue ? Thank you. Loïc Links: -- [1] http://www.ecoleartuccle.be/ateliers/atelier-video [2] https://github.com/ilia3101/MLV-App
Atelier Video in Brussels + Blackmagic Mini Monitor Output
Hello Kdenlive Team ! As we did last year, we will continue to use Kdenlive in our Atelier Vidéo in Brussels [1](École d'Art d'Uccle). The idea of this atelier is to propose a workflow only based on free software. (with an exception for DaVinci Resolve). Here is the list of software we will use : - ffmpeg (only for transcoding and unify formats) - magic lantern (on a canon 5dm3) - mlvapp [2] (process raw files) - audacity - openDCP (if needed...) - kdenlive (for editing) - gimp - krita - natron (compositing) I will rebuild a website for our atelier and share infos on our experiences (for the moment it's only the global site of the school on which I have no control). If some of you live in Brussels and are interested, you're welcome. I just have a question about Kdenlive : Is the Blackmagic Mini Monitor output disabled in Kdenlive ? (it works on Shotcut and, as I remember, it works before on old Kdenlive version - but I forgot which one). On configure -> Playback everytime I click on the _refresh_ icon for an external card, it _append_ a BlackMagic Mini Monitor on the list but nothing append. If it's voluntary disabled for devel purpose, I just will stop checking how to make it works. Is some of you use this kind of card, do you have the same issue ? Thank you. Loïc Links: -- [1] http://www.ecoleartuccle.be/ateliers/atelier-video [2] https://github.com/ilia3101/MLV-App
L'Ecole d'Art d'Uccle in Brussels use Kdenlive (and love it)
Thank you for your work on Kdenlive !!! Yesterday it was the end-of-year jury at l'Ecole d'Art d'Uccle in Brussels [1] and some students are using kdenlive since one year ! As you can see, exports where made on the 18.08 beta 12 (risky business :-) https://stanton.taidangao.org/apps/gallery/s/owoaKo2gsP3b9X3 Waiting for a stable version with timeling refactoring because it's just great ! (just a minor bug -> I have to choose 'selected area' (and define an area) instead of 'full sequence' because long projects are not fully exported) Links: -- [1] http://www.ecoleartuccle.be/
