Re: Question about workflow (Loïc Vanderstichelen)
Hi Loïc, I would try grouping the video and synced audio, and saving it as a library clip: https://kdenlive.org/en/project/the-library-copy-paste-between-projects/ You should then be able to add these library clips into the same project file, or inside another one. You could also try saving the dailies as separate Kdenlive projects, and importing the project files themselves into a new project. That said, importing a Kdenlive project doesn't allow you to expand it like you would a library clip. Best, Candide On Dec. 16, 2021 at 7:01 a.m., kdenlive-requ...@kde.org mailto:kdenlive-requ...@kde.org>> wrote: Attention : courriel externe | external email Send kdenlive mailing list submissions to kdenlive@kde.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kdenlive-requ...@kde.org You can reach the person managing the list at kdenlive-ow...@kde.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kdenlive digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Question about workflow (Loïc Vanderstichelen) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:22:58 +0100 From: Loïc Vanderstichelen To: kdenlive@kde.org Subject: Question about workflow Message-ID: <3b203037-3ca9-3618-6a4d-28ab98e0e...@loicvanderstichelen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Dear Kdenlive Team, I have a question about the workflow and I don't know how to solve it. As you can see on the following screenshot, we are working with a camera and an external audio recorder. Then we sync both audio tracks (thanks to the align audio to reference) and we group clips (CTRL + G). I don't know if there is a way to add those synchronized clips to the project bin ? I tried with a mark in-out on the timeline and "save timeline zone to bin" but no effects. Kdenlive's screenshot For the moment, I place all the dailies at the beginning of the timeline and the editing at the end. Nested timeline will be definitely helpful in this case in a way dailies can be placed on a separate timeline while editing is done on another. I don't know if anyone works the same way (I think it's a very common situation) and how do you solve the problem ? Thank you very mush for your help. Loïc -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdenlive/attachments/20211216/7b81ac98/attachment-0001.htm> -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ kdenlive mailing list kdenlive@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive -- End of kdenlive Digest, Vol 86, Issue 3 ***
Re: Question about workflow
Thank you François. I expected something less tedious because there is a lot of footage. Impossible to edit directly with audio from the camera. High quality audio is important at this step. And nesting each file in a project is a lot of work for an unreliable result. Another solution could be to export each HQ audio file after sync process and join them with FFmpeg as second audio stream (batch process and no re-encoding in this case). I checked if it was possible to automate all this with opentimelineio (to get TC in-out for each audio) but it's seem that opentimelineio doesn't seem to work (but the API is installed). I will continue as I did before : store footage at the beginning of the timeline and copy-paste the files needed at the end of the timeline to edit. So now I'm sure there are no other solutions in this case. Thank you very mush for your help. Cheers, Loïc Le 16/12/21 à 15:33, François Téchené a écrit : Hi Loïc, I think that the "save timeline zone to bin" feature just saves a cut from a clip to the bin. It doesn't nest a portion of the timeline. My personal workflow with Kdenlive is to do all my edit with the audio from the camera. Once I am happy with my edit, I create a new project to sync the high quality audio to every single shot that I used on my edit and I render a new footage file for each of them. Finally, I replace the footage clips in my edit (right click on the footage clip and choose "Replace clip"). While I think that this workflow works well, it is not ideal because re-rendering high quality footage for each clip may consume a lot of hard drive space. Another solution would be to make each audio synced clip as a new Kdenlive project and import each project to the main project bin. That is the only way I found for nesting timelines. However, in my experience, nesting Kdenlive files is pretty slow and not always reliable. The best solution would be to be able to sync up the audio with each clip at the Project Bin level. I don't know if this kind of feature is planned for a future version of Kdenlive but that would be awesome! Cheers, François On 16/12/2021 11:22, Loïc Vanderstichelen wrote: Dear Kdenlive Team, I have a question about the workflow and I don't know how to solve it. As you can see on the following screenshot, we are working with a camera and an external audio recorder. Then we sync both audio tracks (thanks to the align audio to reference) and we group clips (CTRL + G). I don't know if there is a way to add those synchronized clips to the project bin ? I tried with a mark in-out on the timeline and "save timeline zone to bin" but no effects. Kdenlive's screenshot For the moment, I place all the dailies at the beginning of the timeline and the editing at the end. Nested timeline will be definitely helpful in this case in a way dailies can be placed on a separate timeline while editing is done on another. I don't know if anyone works the same way (I think it's a very common situation) and how do you solve the problem ? Thank you very mush for your help. Loïc
Re: Question about workflow
Hi Loïc, I think that the "save timeline zone to bin" feature just saves a cut from a clip to the bin. It doesn't nest a portion of the timeline. My personal workflow with Kdenlive is to do all my edit with the audio from the camera. Once I am happy with my edit, I create a new project to sync the high quality audio to every single shot that I used on my edit and I render a new footage file for each of them. Finally, I replace the footage clips in my edit (right click on the footage clip and choose "Replace clip"). While I think that this workflow works well, it is not ideal because re-rendering high quality footage for each clip may consume a lot of hard drive space. Another solution would be to make each audio synced clip as a new Kdenlive project and import each project to the main project bin. That is the only way I found for nesting timelines. However, in my experience, nesting Kdenlive files is pretty slow and not always reliable. The best solution would be to be able to sync up the audio with each clip at the Project Bin level. I don't know if this kind of feature is planned for a future version of Kdenlive but that would be awesome! Cheers, François On 16/12/2021 11:22, Loïc Vanderstichelen wrote: > > Dear Kdenlive Team, > > I have a question about the workflow and I don't know how to solve it. > > As you can see on the following screenshot, we are working with a > camera and an external audio recorder. > > Then we sync both audio tracks (thanks to the align audio to > reference) and we group clips (CTRL + G). > > I don't know if there is a way to add those synchronized clips to the > project bin ? > > I tried with a mark in-out on the timeline and "save timeline zone to > bin" but no effects. > > Kdenlive's screenshot > > > For the moment, I place all the dailies at the beginning of the > timeline and the editing at the end. > > Nested timeline will be definitely helpful in this case in a way > dailies can be placed on a separate timeline while editing is done on > another. > > I don't know if anyone works the same way (I think it's a very common > situation) and how do you solve the problem ? > > Thank you very mush for your help. > > Loïc > >
Question about workflow
Dear Kdenlive Team, I have a question about the workflow and I don't know how to solve it. As you can see on the following screenshot, we are working with a camera and an external audio recorder. Then we sync both audio tracks (thanks to the align audio to reference) and we group clips (CTRL + G). I don't know if there is a way to add those synchronized clips to the project bin ? I tried with a mark in-out on the timeline and "save timeline zone to bin" but no effects. Kdenlive's screenshot For the moment, I place all the dailies at the beginning of the timeline and the editing at the end. Nested timeline will be definitely helpful in this case in a way dailies can be placed on a separate timeline while editing is done on another. I don't know if anyone works the same way (I think it's a very common situation) and how do you solve the problem ? Thank you very mush for your help. Loïc
