Re: Re: GSOC 2017

[farid abdelnour]

2017-02-03 11:00 GMT-02:00 harald.albrecht :

> It is rework necessary tor the internals of Kdenlive, mostly invisible. It
> is necessary to further develop Kdenlive. A first visible change may
> individually resizable timeline tracks.
>
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: DogFilm 
> Datum: 03.02.2017 12:51 (GMT+01:00)
> An: Harald Albrecht 
> Cc: kdenlive 
> Betreff: Re: GSOC 2017
>
> what is this timeline refactoring about, where can i read about or see
> some screenshots?
> Thanks!
>

Currently there are no screenshots only code tests and concepts being
developed... Hopefulle soon we write a post about this in the website.


> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Harald Albrecht 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi JBM, hi list,
>>
>> many, many thanks for the timeline refactoring. I've just glimpsed over
>> the refactoring branch and seen a lot of work spent here. This looks great
>> and I'm glad that refactoring is being tackled. From my own daytime work I
>> understand the grave importance of this refactoring, not least due to some
>> timeline editing issues we went through in the past.
>>
>> So, thank you very much for your hard work!
>>
>> Best regards, Harald
>> Am 03.02.2017 um 07:20 schrieb Vincent Pinon:
>>
>> Dear Fans,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your enthousiastic and valuable proposals!
>>
>> You're right it is time to line up for GSoC now...
>>
>>
>>
>> However mentoring students seriously takes time, and I really can't make
>> this commitment this year.
>>
>> I really don't think we can expect help from others (very busy too)...
>>
>> We are looking what we can do with JB, but most probably we won't
>> progress much in the wishlist until timeline refactoring completes...
>>
>>
>>
>> For the bug hunting, I think we should have more regular squashing days,
>> last one was a good start!
>>
>> => poll following
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 2 février 2017, 01:07:37 CET Evert Vorster a écrit :
>>
>> Hi there.
>>
>> Some ideas for the google summer of code:
>>
>> Customizable list of project defaults. Bug 369080
>> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369080>
>>
>> Bug 368801 <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368801> - Wish: Able to
>> do multiple clip jobs to one clip Bug 368366
>> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368366> - Wish - Render .mlt files
>> as a clip job, and add resulting rendered file to project Bug 364269
>> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364269> - git master 2016-06-19,
>> mlv video format supported, but not in list (This should be a ridiculously
>> easy one to fix) There is a long list of wishes in the bugtracker that
>> can be a very good idea for the GSOC to implement.
>>
>> Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, as
>> well as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks. :)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Evert
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm  wrote:
>>
>> I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi
>> clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a
>> real audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new
>> opportunities to art creations near to real time video mixing.
>>
>> Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live
>> video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the
>> capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just
>> means to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect
>> selection / looping and a good keyboard customization for a live usecase.
>> Also this is very good partnering with the sync feature for creating real
>> time art. Basically this "just" means not triggering certain actions via
>> GUI interaction, but with keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file
>> open, add clip, play clip" just "press o" - instead of "click on clip, add
>> effect" just "press f" and so on. Maybe the actual implementation would be
>> very similar to a "makro recorder" - what leads to the next idea of adding
>> scripting functionally to make Kdenlive completely customizable and
>> scriptable, like Blender.
>>
>> These features are not found in any other video editing so

AW: Re: GSOC 2017

[harald.albrecht]

It is rework necessary tor the internals of Kdenlive, mostly invisible. It is 
necessary to further develop Kdenlive. A first visible change may individually 
resizable timeline tracks.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: DogFilm  
Datum: 03.02.2017  12:51  (GMT+01:00) 
An: Harald Albrecht  
Cc: kdenlive  
Betreff: Re: GSOC 2017 

what is this timeline refactoring about, where can i read about or see some 
screenshots? Thanks!
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Harald Albrecht  wrote:

  

  
  
Hi JBM, hi list,
many, many thanks for the timeline refactoring. I've just glimpsed over the 
refactoring branch and seen a lot of work spent here. This looks great and I'm 
glad that refactoring is being tackled. From my own daytime work I understand 
the grave importance of this refactoring, not least due to some timeline 
editing issues we went through in the past.
So, thank you very much for your hard work!
Best regards,
Harald

Am 03.02.2017 um 07:20 schrieb Vincent
  Pinon:



  
  
  Dear Fans,
   
  Thanks a lot for your enthousiastic and valuable proposals!
  You're right it is time to line up for GSoC now...
   
  However mentoring students seriously takes time, and I really can't make 
this commitment this year.
  I really don't think we can expect help from others (very busy too)...
  We are looking what we can do with JB, but most probably we won't 
progress much in the wishlist until timeline refactoring completes...
   
  For the bug hunting, I think we should have more regular squashing days, 
last one was a good start!
  => poll following
   
  Cheers,
   
  Vincent
   
  Le jeudi 2 février 2017, 01:07:37 CET Evert Vorster a écrit :

  Hi there. 

  Some ideas for the google summer of code:

  Customizable list of project defaults. Bug 369080 

  Bug 368801 - Wish: Able to do multiple clip jobs to one clip
Bug 368366 - Wish - Render .mlt files as a clip job, and add resulting rendered 
file to project
Bug 364269 - git master 2016-06-19, mlv video format supported, but not in list 
(This should be a ridiculously easy one to fix)

There is a long list of wishes in the bugtracker that can be a very good idea 
for the GSOC to implement. 

  Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, as 
well as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks. 

:)


  Kind regards,

  Evert

   
  

  

  

  On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm  wrote:

  I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi 
clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a real 
audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new 
opportunities to art creations near to real time video mixing.
  

  Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live 
video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the 
capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just means 
to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect selection / 
looping and a good keyboard customization for a live usecase. Also this is very 
good partnering with the sync feature for creating real time art. Basically 
this "just" means not triggering certain actions via GUI interaction, but with 
keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file open, add clip, play clip" just 
"press o" - instead of "click on clip, add effect" just "press f" and so on. 
Maybe the actual implementation would be very similar to a "makro recorder" - 
what leads to the next idea of adding scripting functionally to make Kdenlive 
completely customizable and scriptable, like Blender.
  

  These features are not found in any other video editing software (free or 
commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point for 
kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but these lack basic 
video editing features and mostly are not available with an open source license 
and are not available for free operating systems. 
  

  Thanks for your attention,
  have a nice day,
  John
  

  On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour  
wrote:

  Ciao Massimo,

  

  Hi Farid,
I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.
Par of this list is our roadmap at today:

Refactoring timeline for acheiving:
- Advanced trimming features
- Single track transitions
- Multicam Editing
- More sequences nesting
and
- Mixer audio
- Secondary color correction
- improve titler

Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all these 
fundamental feature will be already implemented:
- DCP export
- Slowmovideo integration
- Spotlight effects
- Rolling shutter compe

Re: GSOC 2017

[farid abdelnour]

Hi Vincent


>
> Thanks a lot for your enthousiastic and valuable proposals!
>
> You're right it is time to line up for GSoC now...
>
>
>
> However mentoring students seriously takes time, and I really can't make
> this commitment this year.
>

I understand and is why I was thinking of simple projects for students to
pick up.


> I really don't think we can expect help from others (very busy too)...
>

What do you think of the idea of asking some MLT devs if they would be
interested in mentoring? There are many MLT modules that we can try
develop. Do you think we could also ask some KDE devs if they could help
out here to do projects like improving interface and stuff? I might be
wrong but this would require only some QT knowledge without the need for
the Kdenlive internals. I am thinking here of a redesign of the render
widget or improvements to the bin...


> We are looking what we can do with JB, but most probably we won't progress
> much in the wishlist until timeline refactoring completes...
>

I hope you consider some of the points I did in the previous paragraph
since they won't touch the timeline code.


> For the bug hunting, I think we should have more regular squashing days,
> last one was a good start!
>
> => poll following
>

+1


>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Vincent
>

Cheers!

>
>
> Le jeudi 2 février 2017, 01:07:37 CET Evert Vorster a écrit :
>
> Hi there.
>
> Some ideas for the google summer of code:
>
> Customizable list of project defaults. Bug 369080
> 
>
> Bug 368801  - Wish: Able to
> do multiple clip jobs to one clip
> Bug 368366  - Wish - Render
> .mlt files as a clip job, and add resulting rendered file to project
> Bug 364269  - git master
> 2016-06-19, mlv video format supported, but not in list (This should be a
> ridiculously easy one to fix)
>
> There is a long list of wishes in the bugtracker that can be a very good
> idea for the GSOC to implement.
>
> Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, as
> well as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks.
>
> :)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Evert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm  wrote:
>
> I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi
> clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a
> real audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new
> opportunities to art creations near to real time video mixing.
>
>
> Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live
> video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the
> capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just
> means to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect
> selection / looping and a good keyboard customization for a live usecase.
> Also this is very good partnering with the sync feature for creating real
> time art. Basically this "just" means not triggering certain actions via
> GUI interaction, but with keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file
> open, add clip, play clip" just "press o" - instead of "click on clip, add
> effect" just "press f" and so on. Maybe the actual implementation would be
> very similar to a "makro recorder" - what leads to the next idea of adding
> scripting functionally to make Kdenlive completely customizable and
> scriptable, like Blender.
>
>
> These features are not found in any other video editing software (free or
> commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point for
> kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but these lack
> basic video editing features and mostly are not available with an open
> source license and are not available for free operating systems.
>
>
> Thanks for your attention,
>
> have a nice day,
>
> John
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour 
> wrote:
>
> Ciao Massimo,
>
>
> Hi Farid,
> I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.
> Par of this list is our roadmap at today:
>
> Refactoring timeline for acheiving:
> - Advanced trimming features
> - Single track transitions
> - Multicam Editing
> - More sequences nesting
> and
> - Mixer audio
> - Secondary color correction
> - improve titler
>
> Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all these
> fundamental feature will be already implemented:
> - DCP export
> - Slowmovideo integration
> - Spotlight effects
> - Rolling shutter compensation
> - Stereoscopic 3D support
> - 360 video stitch
> - 3D Titler
>
> I hope this can be useful.
>
>
> Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong
> but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for
> students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the
> students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help from K

Re: GSOC 2017

[DogFilm]

what is this timeline refactoring about, where can i read about or see some
screenshots?
Thanks!

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Harald Albrecht 
wrote:

> Hi JBM, hi list,
>
> many, many thanks for the timeline refactoring. I've just glimpsed over
> the refactoring branch and seen a lot of work spent here. This looks great
> and I'm glad that refactoring is being tackled. From my own daytime work I
> understand the grave importance of this refactoring, not least due to some
> timeline editing issues we went through in the past.
>
> So, thank you very much for your hard work!
>
> Best regards, Harald
> Am 03.02.2017 um 07:20 schrieb Vincent Pinon:
>
> Dear Fans,
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your enthousiastic and valuable proposals!
>
> You're right it is time to line up for GSoC now...
>
>
>
> However mentoring students seriously takes time, and I really can't make
> this commitment this year.
>
> I really don't think we can expect help from others (very busy too)...
>
> We are looking what we can do with JB, but most probably we won't progress
> much in the wishlist until timeline refactoring completes...
>
>
>
> For the bug hunting, I think we should have more regular squashing days,
> last one was a good start!
>
> => poll following
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> Le jeudi 2 février 2017, 01:07:37 CET Evert Vorster a écrit :
>
> Hi there.
>
> Some ideas for the google summer of code:
>
> Customizable list of project defaults. Bug 369080
> 
>
> Bug 368801  - Wish: Able to
> do multiple clip jobs to one clip Bug 368366
>  - Wish - Render .mlt files
> as a clip job, and add resulting rendered file to project Bug 364269
>  - git master 2016-06-19,
> mlv video format supported, but not in list (This should be a ridiculously
> easy one to fix) There is a long list of wishes in the bugtracker that
> can be a very good idea for the GSOC to implement.
>
> Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, as
> well as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks. :)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Evert
>
>
>
> On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm  wrote:
>
> I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi
> clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a
> real audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new
> opportunities to art creations near to real time video mixing.
>
> Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live
> video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the
> capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just
> means to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect
> selection / looping and a good keyboard customization for a live usecase.
> Also this is very good partnering with the sync feature for creating real
> time art. Basically this "just" means not triggering certain actions via
> GUI interaction, but with keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file
> open, add clip, play clip" just "press o" - instead of "click on clip, add
> effect" just "press f" and so on. Maybe the actual implementation would be
> very similar to a "makro recorder" - what leads to the next idea of adding
> scripting functionally to make Kdenlive completely customizable and
> scriptable, like Blender.
>
> These features are not found in any other video editing software (free or
> commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point for
> kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but these lack
> basic video editing features and mostly are not available with an open
> source license and are not available for free operating systems.
>
> Thanks for your attention,
>
> have a nice day,
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour 
> wrote:
>
> Ciao Massimo,
>
> Hi Farid, I have a list of features I wrote some time ago. Par of this
> list is our roadmap at today: Refactoring timeline for acheiving: -
> Advanced trimming features - Single track transitions - Multicam Editing -
> More sequences nesting and - Mixer audio - Secondary color correction -
> improve titler Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future,
> when all these fundamental feature will be already implemented: - DCP
> export - Slowmovideo integration - Spotlight effects - Rolling shutter
> compensation - Stereoscopic 3D support - 360 video stitch - 3D Titler I
> hope this can be useful.
>
> Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong
> but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for
> students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the
> students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help from KDE
> devs for mentoring, can we ask for something like this? I was also thin

Re: GSOC 2017

[Harald Albrecht]

Hi JBM, hi list,

many, many thanks for the timeline refactoring. I've just glimpsed over 
the refactoring branch and seen a lot of work spent here. This looks 
great and I'm glad that refactoring is being tackled. From my own 
daytime work I understand the grave importance of this refactoring, not 
least due to some timeline editing issues we went through in the past.


So, thank you very much for your hard work!

Best regards, Harald

Am 03.02.2017 um 07:20 schrieb Vincent Pinon:


Dear Fans,

Thanks a lot for your enthousiastic and valuable proposals!

You're right it is time to line up for GSoC now...

However mentoring students seriously takes time, and I really can't 
make this commitment this year.


I really don't think we can expect help from others (very busy too)...

We are looking what we can do with JB, but most probably we won't 
progress much in the wishlist until timeline refactoring completes...


For the bug hunting, I think we should have more regular squashing 
days, last one was a good start!


=> poll following

Cheers,

Vincent

Le jeudi 2 février 2017, 01:07:37 CET Evert Vorster a écrit :

Hi there.

Some ideas for the google summer of code:

Customizable list of project defaults. Bug 369080 



Bug 368801  - Wish: Able 
to do multiple clip jobs to one clip Bug 368366 
 - Wish - Render .mlt 
files as a clip job, and add resulting rendered file to project 
Bug 364269  - git master 
2016-06-19, mlv video format supported, but not in list (This should 
be a ridiculously easy one to fix) There is a long list of wishes in 
the bugtracker that can be a very good idea for the GSOC to implement.


Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, 
as well as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks. :)


Kind regards,

Evert

On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm > wrote:


I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via 
midi clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to 
sync with a real audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. 
Opens very new opportunities to art creations near to real time video 
mixing.


Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on 
live video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all 
the capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it 
just means to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and 
effect selection / looping and a good keyboard customization for a 
live usecase. Also this is very good partnering with the sync feature 
for creating real time art. Basically this "just" means not triggering 
certain actions via GUI interaction, but with keyboard and / or midi 
signals. Instead "file open, add clip, play clip" just "press o" - 
instead of "click on clip, add effect" just "press f" and so on. Maybe 
the actual implementation would be very similar to a "makro recorder" 
- what leads to the next idea of adding scripting functionally to make 
Kdenlive completely customizable and scriptable, like Blender.


These features are not found in any other video editing software (free 
or commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point 
for kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but 
these lack basic video editing features and mostly are not available 
with an open source license and are not available for free operating 
systems.


Thanks for your attention,

have a nice day,

John

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour > wrote:


Ciao Massimo,

Hi Farid, I have a list of features I wrote some time ago. Par of this 
list is our roadmap at today: Refactoring timeline for acheiving: - 
Advanced trimming features - Single track transitions - Multicam 
Editing - More sequences nesting and - Mixer audio - Secondary color 
correction - improve titler Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting 
for the future, when all these fundamental feature will be already 
implemented: - DCP export - Slowmovideo integration - Spotlight 
effects - Rolling shutter compensation - Stereoscopic 3D support - 360 
video stitch - 3D Titler I hope this can be useful.


Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be 
wrong but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both 
for students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor 
the students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help 
from KDE devs for mentoring, can we ask for something like this? I was 
also thinking in asking if Dan (MLT, Shotcut) or Janne (Flowblade) 
could help out in some MLT mentoring since it would help all the 
projects. (Maybe they can even propose other features for MLT and 
mentor them under KDE/Kdenlive umbrella.) Again do you think t

Re: GSOC 2017

[Vincent Pinon]

Dear Fans,

Thanks a lot for your enthousiastic and valuable proposals!
You're right it is time to line up for GSoC now...

However mentoring students seriously takes time, and I really can't make this 
commitment this year.
I really don't think we can expect help from others (very busy too)...
We are looking what we can do with JB, but most probably we won't progress much 
in the wishlist until timeline refactoring completes...

For the bug hunting, I think we should have more regular squashing days, last 
one was a good start!
=> poll following

Cheers,

Vincent

Le jeudi 2 février 2017, 01:07:37 CET Evert Vorster a écrit :


Hi there. 


Some ideas for the google summer of code:


Customizable list of project defaults. *Bug 369080[1]* 


*Bug 368801[2]* - Wish: Able to do multiple clip jobs to one clip
*Bug 368366[3]* - Wish - Render .mlt files as a clip job, and add resulting 
rendered file to project
*Bug 364269[4]* - git master 2016-06-19, mlv video format supported, but not in 
list (This should be a ridiculously easy one to fix)


There is a long list of wishes in the bugtracker that can be a very good idea 
for the GSOC to implement. 


Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, as well 
as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks. 

Kind regards,

Evert








On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm  wrote:


I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi clock 
or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a real audio 
editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new opportunities to 
art creations near to real time video mixing.


Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live video 
mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the capabilities for 
such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just means to create a 
different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect selection / looping and a 
good keyboard customization for a live usecase. Also this is very good 
partnering with the sync feature for creating real time art. Basically this 
"just" means not triggering certain actions via GUI interaction, but with 
keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file open, add clip, play clip" just 
"press o" - instead of "click on clip, add effect" just "press f" and so on. 
Maybe the actual implementation would be very similar to a "makro recorder" - 
what leads to the next idea of adding scripting functionally to make Kdenlive 
completely customizable and scriptable, like Blender.


These features are not found in any other video editing software (free or 
commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point for 
kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but these lack basic 
video editing features and mostly are not available with an open source license 
and are not available for free operating systems. 


Thanks for your attention,
have a nice day,
John


On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour  wrote:


Ciao Massimo,




Hi Farid,I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.Par of this list is 
our roadmap at today:

Refactoring timeline for acheiving:- Advanced trimming features- Single track 
transitions- Multicam Editing- More sequences nestingand- Mixer audio- 
Secondary color correction- improve titler

Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all these 
fundamental feature will be already implemented:- DCP export- Slowmovideo 
integration- Spotlight effects- Rolling shutter compensation- Stereoscopic 3D 
support- 360 video stitch- 3D Titler

I hope this can be useful.




Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong but, I 
proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for students and 
mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the students. I ask again if 
it would be possible to get some help from KDE devs for mentoring, can we ask 
for something like this? I was also thinking in asking if Dan (MLT, Shotcut) or 
Janne (Flowblade) could help out in some MLT mentoring since it would help all 
the projects. (Maybe they can even propose other features for MLT and mentor 
them under KDE/Kdenlive umbrella.) Again do you think that is a good idea to 
try to make it happen?


 
Thanks for stimulating the discussion about it. In my opinion you have to go 
forward on the wiki.




Thanks for your support, I will find some time to develop further some thoughts 
and write them on the wiki.  



Cheers

Massimo




Take care!



PS


I will join you soon in phabricator for some ideas for the refactoring.




_snd.noise@gmail.com_
kdenlive@kde.org[7]>Ogg: GSOC 2017


hello,



i would like to know if we can start thinking on some gsoc projects for 2017. 
can any one of you mentor some ideas? if not, can it be possible to to request 
some help from kde for this? here are some ideas that we could try:



-improve titler - easy


-improve render widget

Re: GSOC 2017

[Evert Vorster]

Hi there.
Some ideas for the google summer of code:
Customizable list of project defaults. *Bug 369080*

*Bug 368801*  - Wish: Able to
do multiple clip jobs to one clip
*Bug 368366*  - Wish - Render
.mlt files as a clip job, and add resulting rendered file to project
*Bug 364269*  - git master
2016-06-19, mlv video format supported, but not in list (This should be a
ridiculously easy one to fix)

There is a long list of wishes in the bugtracker that can be a very good
idea for the GSOC to implement.
Other than that, clean compilation without errors would also be nice, as
well as running through valgrind and fixing all the memory leaks.

:)

Kind regards,
Evert



On 31 January 2017 at 11:02, DogFilm  wrote:

> I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi
> clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a
> real audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new
> opportunities to art creations near to real time video mixing.
>
> Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live
> video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the
> capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just
> means to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect
> selection / looping and a good keyboard customization for a live usecase.
> Also this is very good partnering with the sync feature for creating real
> time art. Basically this "just" means not triggering certain actions via
> GUI interaction, but with keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file
> open, add clip, play clip" just "press o" - instead of "click on clip, add
> effect" just "press f" and so on. Maybe the actual implementation would be
> very similar to a "makro recorder" - what leads to the next idea of adding
> scripting functionally to make Kdenlive completely customizable and
> scriptable, like Blender.
>
> These features are not found in any other video editing software (free or
> commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point for
> kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but these lack
> basic video editing features and mostly are not available with an open
> source license and are not available for free operating systems.
>
> Thanks for your attention,
> have a nice day,
> John
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour 
> wrote:
>
>> Ciao Massimo,
>>
>> Hi Farid,
>>> I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.
>>> Par of this list is our roadmap at today:
>>>
>>> Refactoring timeline for acheiving:
>>> - Advanced trimming features
>>> - Single track transitions
>>> - Multicam Editing
>>> - More sequences nesting
>>> and
>>> - Mixer audio
>>> - Secondary color correction
>>> - improve titler
>>>
>>> Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all
>>> these fundamental feature will be already implemented:
>>> - DCP export
>>> - Slowmovideo integration
>>> - Spotlight effects
>>> - Rolling shutter compensation
>>> - Stereoscopic 3D support
>>> - 360 video stitch
>>> - 3D Titler
>>>
>>> I hope this can be useful.
>>>
>>
>> Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong
>> but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for
>> students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the
>> students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help from KDE
>> devs for mentoring, can we ask for something like this? I was also thinking
>> in asking if Dan (MLT, Shotcut) or Janne (Flowblade) could help out in some
>> MLT mentoring since it would help all the projects. (Maybe they can even
>> propose other features for MLT and mentor them under KDE/Kdenlive
>> umbrella.) Again do you think that is a good idea to try to make it happen?
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for stimulating the discussion about it. In my opinion you have
>>> to go forward on the wiki.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for your support, I will find some time to develop further some
>> thoughts and write them on the wiki.
>>
>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Massimo
>>>
>>
>> Take care!
>>
>> PS
>> I will join you soon in phabricator for some ideas for the refactoring.
>>
>>
>>> Messaggio originale
>>> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
>>> Data: 27-gen-2017 16.08
>>> A: "kdenlive"
>>> Ogg: GSOC 2017
>>>
>>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> i would like to know if we can start thinking on some gsoc projects for
>>> 2017. can any one of you mentor some ideas? if not, can it be possible to
>>> to request some help from kde for this? here are some ideas that we could
>>> try:
>>>
>>> -improve titler - easy
>>> -improve render widget - easy
>>> -fix movit bugs - medium-hard
>>> -mlt-edl module - medium?
>>> -mlt-openfx module - medium?
>>> -audio mixer - medium?
>>> -incorporate slowmovideo - medium-hard?
>>> -

Re: GSOC 2017

[DogFilm]

I would like to add "synchronize timeline with other apps" e.g. via midi
clock or via jackd. Very useful to have a video editor able to sync with a
real audio editor like ardour without import/export dance. Opens very new
opportunities to art creations near to real time video mixing.

Another feature would be more "live editing" features like seen on live
video mixers, aka Video-DJ software. From what I understand all the
capabilities for such a thing are already inside kdenlive code, it just
means to create a different GUI mode to enable live clip and effect
selection / looping and a good keyboard customization for a live usecase.
Also this is very good partnering with the sync feature for creating real
time art. Basically this "just" means not triggering certain actions via
GUI interaction, but with keyboard and / or midi signals. Instead "file
open, add clip, play clip" just "press o" - instead of "click on clip, add
effect" just "press f" and so on. Maybe the actual implementation would be
very similar to a "makro recorder" - what leads to the next idea of adding
scripting functionally to make Kdenlive completely customizable and
scriptable, like Blender.

These features are not found in any other video editing software (free or
commercial) so it will be a very interesting unique "selling" point for
kdenlive. There are, of course, specialized VJ softwares, but these lack
basic video editing features and mostly are not available with an open
source license and are not available for free operating systems.

Thanks for your attention,
have a nice day,
John

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:12 AM, farid abdelnour 
wrote:

> Ciao Massimo,
>
> Hi Farid,
>> I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.
>> Par of this list is our roadmap at today:
>>
>> Refactoring timeline for acheiving:
>> - Advanced trimming features
>> - Single track transitions
>> - Multicam Editing
>> - More sequences nesting
>> and
>> - Mixer audio
>> - Secondary color correction
>> - improve titler
>>
>> Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all these
>> fundamental feature will be already implemented:
>> - DCP export
>> - Slowmovideo integration
>> - Spotlight effects
>> - Rolling shutter compensation
>> - Stereoscopic 3D support
>> - 360 video stitch
>> - 3D Titler
>>
>> I hope this can be useful.
>>
>
> Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong
> but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for
> students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the
> students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help from KDE
> devs for mentoring, can we ask for something like this? I was also thinking
> in asking if Dan (MLT, Shotcut) or Janne (Flowblade) could help out in some
> MLT mentoring since it would help all the projects. (Maybe they can even
> propose other features for MLT and mentor them under KDE/Kdenlive
> umbrella.) Again do you think that is a good idea to try to make it happen?
>
>
>> Thanks for stimulating the discussion about it. In my opinion you have to
>> go forward on the wiki.
>>
>
> Thanks for your support, I will find some time to develop further some
> thoughts and write them on the wiki.
>
> Cheers
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>
> Take care!
>
> PS
> I will join you soon in phabricator for some ideas for the refactoring.
>
>
>> Messaggio originale
>> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
>> Data: 27-gen-2017 16.08
>> A: "kdenlive"
>> Ogg: GSOC 2017
>>
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> i would like to know if we can start thinking on some gsoc projects for
>> 2017. can any one of you mentor some ideas? if not, can it be possible to
>> to request some help from kde for this? here are some ideas that we could
>> try:
>>
>> -improve titler - easy
>> -improve render widget - easy
>> -fix movit bugs - medium-hard
>> -mlt-edl module - medium?
>> -mlt-openfx module - medium?
>> -audio mixer - medium?
>> -incorporate slowmovideo - medium-hard?
>> -fix low-hanging bugs - easy
>>
>> if there is interest, i am willing develop the proposals in the wiki.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
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Re: GSOC 2017

[farid abdelnour]

Any thoughts on this?

2017-01-29 0:12 GMT-02:00 farid abdelnour :

> Ciao Massimo,
>
> Hi Farid,
>> I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.
>> Par of this list is our roadmap at today:
>>
>> Refactoring timeline for acheiving:
>> - Advanced trimming features
>> - Single track transitions
>> - Multicam Editing
>> - More sequences nesting
>> and
>> - Mixer audio
>> - Secondary color correction
>> - improve titler
>>
>> Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all these
>> fundamental feature will be already implemented:
>> - DCP export
>> - Slowmovideo integration
>> - Spotlight effects
>> - Rolling shutter compensation
>> - Stereoscopic 3D support
>> - 360 video stitch
>> - 3D Titler
>>
>> I hope this can be useful.
>>
>
> Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong
> but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for
> students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the
> students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help from KDE
> devs for mentoring, can we ask for something like this? I was also thinking
> in asking if Dan (MLT, Shotcut) or Janne (Flowblade) could help out in some
> MLT mentoring since it would help all the projects. (Maybe they can even
> propose other features for MLT and mentor them under KDE/Kdenlive
> umbrella.) Again do you think that is a good idea to try to make it happen?
>
>
>> Thanks for stimulating the discussion about it. In my opinion you have to
>> go forward on the wiki.
>>
>
> Thanks for your support, I will find some time to develop further some
> thoughts and write them on the wiki.
>
> Cheers
>>
>> Massimo
>>
>
> Take care!
>
> PS
> I will join you soon in phabricator for some ideas for the refactoring.
>
>
>> Messaggio originale
>> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
>> Data: 27-gen-2017 16.08
>> A: "kdenlive"
>> Ogg: GSOC 2017
>>
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> i would like to know if we can start thinking on some gsoc projects for
>> 2017. can any one of you mentor some ideas? if not, can it be possible to
>> to request some help from kde for this? here are some ideas that we could
>> try:
>>
>> -improve titler - easy
>> -improve render widget - easy
>> -fix movit bugs - medium-hard
>> -mlt-edl module - medium?
>> -mlt-openfx module - medium?
>> -audio mixer - medium?
>> -incorporate slowmovideo - medium-hard?
>> -fix low-hanging bugs - easy
>>
>> if there is interest, i am willing develop the proposals in the wiki.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> .1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
>> fsf member #5439
>> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
>> |_|0|_|
>> |_|_|0|
>> |0|0|0|
>> http://www.gunga.com.br";>gunga
>> http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br";>tempoecoarte
>> http://www.atelier-labs.org";>atelier-labs
>> http://www.mocambos.net";>rede mocambos
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: GSOC 2017

[farid abdelnour]

Ciao Massimo,

Hi Farid,
> I have a list of features I wrote some time ago.
> Par of this list is our roadmap at today:
>
> Refactoring timeline for acheiving:
> - Advanced trimming features
> - Single track transitions
> - Multicam Editing
> - More sequences nesting
> and
> - Mixer audio
> - Secondary color correction
> - improve titler
>
> Then I have a list of ideas I'm collecting for the future, when all these
> fundamental feature will be already implemented:
> - DCP export
> - Slowmovideo integration
> - Spotlight effects
> - Rolling shutter compensation
> - Stereoscopic 3D support
> - 360 video stitch
> - 3D Titler
>
> I hope this can be useful.
>

Great ideas and very useful indeed, thanks for sharing. I might be wrong
but, I proposed those ideas thinking in something feasible both for
students and mentors. We need to see who is available to mentor the
students. I ask again if it would be possible to get some help from KDE
devs for mentoring, can we ask for something like this? I was also thinking
in asking if Dan (MLT, Shotcut) or Janne (Flowblade) could help out in some
MLT mentoring since it would help all the projects. (Maybe they can even
propose other features for MLT and mentor them under KDE/Kdenlive
umbrella.) Again do you think that is a good idea to try to make it happen?


> Thanks for stimulating the discussion about it. In my opinion you have to
> go forward on the wiki.
>

Thanks for your support, I will find some time to develop further some
thoughts and write them on the wiki.

Cheers
>
> Massimo
>

Take care!

PS
I will join you soon in phabricator for some ideas for the refactoring.


> Messaggio originale
> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
> Data: 27-gen-2017 16.08
> A: "kdenlive"
> Ogg: GSOC 2017
>
>
> hello,
>
> i would like to know if we can start thinking on some gsoc projects for
> 2017. can any one of you mentor some ideas? if not, can it be possible to
> to request some help from kde for this? here are some ideas that we could
> try:
>
> -improve titler - easy
> -improve render widget - easy
> -fix movit bugs - medium-hard
> -mlt-edl module - medium?
> -mlt-openfx module - medium?
> -audio mixer - medium?
> -incorporate slowmovideo - medium-hard?
> -fix low-hanging bugs - easy
>
> if there is interest, i am willing develop the proposals in the wiki.
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> --
> .1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة
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> usuario GNU/Linux #471966
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> |0|0|0|
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> http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br";>tempoecoarte
> http://www.atelier-labs.org";>atelier-labs
> http://www.mocambos.net";>rede mocambos
>
>
>


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