[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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wer...@hoernerfranzracing.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Platform|Fedora RPMs |Debian stable
Version|5.7.3   |5.21.3

--- Comment #64 from wer...@hoernerfranzracing.de ---
this bug keeps coming back all the time, again and again, since kde 4.x.
now on kmail2 5.21.3 (22.08.3):

SUMMARY
kmail can't expand Address Lists

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. create a recipients list in kmail composer, name the list, e.g. Workgroup,
save it in contacts
2. write email text, select Workgroup from contacts as recipient
3. send email

OBSERVED RESULT
List is not resolved to Names/Addresses, but kmail wants to send to
workgr...@mydomain.de which, of course, fails.

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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Łukasz  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||lrajchel1...@gmail.com
Version|4.10|5.7.3
 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
   Platform|unspecified |Fedora RPMs
 Resolution|FIXED   |---

--- Comment #63 from Łukasz  ---
KMail and Kontact 5.7.3 under Fedora, still the same problem: contact groups
not expanded in the composer window.

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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I don't use kmail anymore, how can I unsubscribe as reporter of this bug?

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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--- Comment #61 from Mathieu MD  ---
With KMail 5.2.3, the list can be created, but email cannot be sent. When
clicking on "Send", I get this warning popup:
"The email address you entered is not valid because it does not contain a '.'.
You will not create valid messages if you do not change your address."

The distribution list is not expanded, and therefore KMail thinks that the DL
name is an actual email address.

Example:
1. Create and populate a DL named "Family, Friends"
2. Use the "Select..." button to add this DL in the "To:" field
3. Click on the "Send" button.

The popup will warn you (the above message) about the email address
"Family@mycomputername".

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Martin Stolpe]

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--- Comment #60 from Martin Stolpe martinsto...@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 334794 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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--- Comment #59 from Orion orion200...@yahoo.co.uk ---
I can confirm that on Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.13 and same KDEPIM version
distribution lists are non functional. Yet again. 

Workaround: use select in composer window, expand your dist-list in question,
select all recepients and add/cc/bcc them. Then it works

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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--- Comment #58 from wer...@hoernerfranzracing.de ---
oh well,
once again, after update to kde 4.13,  this is not working anymore !§%/[
seems to be related to change from nepomuk to baloo.
WTF.

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #57 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #56)
 Hi,
 
 On Monday 16 September 2013 21:29:19 you wrote:
  Finally, it works on my machine too. The Problem was, that nepomuk had not
  indexed correct the Akonadi data. I had to make Nepomuk rescan everything,
  now it works even when I restart my Computer without any script
 
 The script not working for you was, I believe, because Ubuntu links /bin/sh
 to 
 dash and not bash. Changing line 1 of the script to #!/bin/bash should
 correct 
 this.
 
 Without the script, are you sure that Nepomuk is indexing current data? If
 you 
 add a contact to an Akonadi resource and reboot does that new contact get 
 indexed? My testing indicated that it was not. Hence the reason for creating 
 the workaround.
 
 Regards,
 Neil Darlow

Thx, now the script works

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Neil Darlow]

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--- Comment #56 from Neil Darlow n...@darlow.co.uk ---
Hi,

On Monday 16 September 2013 21:29:19 you wrote:
 Finally, it works on my machine too. The Problem was, that nepomuk had not
 indexed correct the Akonadi data. I had to make Nepomuk rescan everything,
 now it works even when I restart my Computer without any script

The script not working for you was, I believe, because Ubuntu links /bin/sh to 
dash and not bash. Changing line 1 of the script to #!/bin/bash should correct 
this.

Without the script, are you sure that Nepomuk is indexing current data? If you 
add a contact to an Akonadi resource and reboot does that new contact get 
indexed? My testing indicated that it was not. Hence the reason for creating 
the workaround.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #48 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #47)
 (In reply to comment #46)
  (In reply to comment #45)
   rm -rf `find ~/ -name *nepomuk*`
  
  Half off-topic, but it's generally safer (and clearer) to say
  
  find ~/ -name *nepomuk* -delete
  
  The order is important here!
 
 what will this command do? will it delete all nepomuk files and configs?
 what impact has this command on my nepomuk configuration?
 
 the workaround script has not worked for me.

I can live without working contact lists, but nepomuk is very important for me
an my daily work

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Neil Darlow]

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--- Comment #49 from Neil Darlow n...@darlow.co.uk ---
Hi,

On Monday 16 September 2013 09:07:16 you wrote:
 the workaround script has not worked for me.

If you look at the Agents tab in Akonadi Console, what is the status of 
Akonadi Nepomuk Feeder?

It should indicate Indexing completed. If it indicates that is is waiting 
for Nepomuk to start or, after a while, Nepomuk is not running then that is 
the error condition the script attempts to address.

You did chmod +x the script and add to KDE autostart?

Regards,
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[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #50 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #49)
 Hi,
 
 On Monday 16 September 2013 09:07:16 you wrote:
  the workaround script has not worked for me.
 
 If you look at the Agents tab in Akonadi Console, what is the status of 
 Akonadi Nepomuk Feeder?
 
 It should indicate Indexing completed. If it indicates that is is waiting 
 for Nepomuk to start or, after a while, Nepomuk is not running then that is 
 the error condition the script attempts to address.
 
 You did chmod +x the script and add to KDE autostart?
 
 Regards,
 Neil Darlow

Yes I have done that. But is it really necessary to run the script each time
when I log to run the script?

When I run the script manually I get an exception:
./feeder-restart: 11: ./feeder-restart: Syntax error: } unexpected

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Neil Darlow]

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--- Comment #51 from Neil Darlow n...@darlow.co.uk ---
Hi,

On Monday 16 September 2013 09:24:53 you wrote:
 Yes I have done that. But is it really necessary to run the script each time
 when I log to run the script?

In the sense that the start-up order of nepomukfilewatch/nepomukfileindexer and 
akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is not guaranteed, yes it is necessary to check this 
condition at login when these processes are started.

 When I run the script manually I get an exception:
 ./feeder-restart: 11: ./feeder-restart: Syntax error: } unexpected

How did you install the script? Was it by copy and paste or by moving the 
downloaded file?

This is standard Bash scripting and shouldn't present a syntax error unless 
the file is somehow corrupted.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #47 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #46)
 (In reply to comment #45)
  rm -rf `find ~/ -name *nepomuk*`
 
 Half off-topic, but it's generally safer (and clearer) to say
 
 find ~/ -name *nepomuk* -delete
 
 The order is important here!

what will this command do? will it delete all nepomuk files and configs? what
impact has this command on my nepomuk configuration?

the workaround script has not worked for me.

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #52 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #51)
 Hi,
 
 On Monday 16 September 2013 09:24:53 you wrote:
  Yes I have done that. But is it really necessary to run the script each time
  when I log to run the script?
 
 In the sense that the start-up order of nepomukfilewatch/nepomukfileindexer
 and 
 akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is not guaranteed, yes it is necessary to check this 
 condition at login when these processes are started.
 
  When I run the script manually I get an exception:
  ./feeder-restart: 11: ./feeder-restart: Syntax error: } unexpected
 
 How did you install the script? Was it by copy and paste or by moving the 
 downloaded file?
 
 This is standard Bash scripting and shouldn't present a syntax error unless 
 the file is somehow corrupted.
 
 Regards,
 Neil Darlow

Just downloaded the file from here, run chmod und executed the file.

But sorry, this was not the complete error output:

./feeder-restart: 9: ./feeder-restart: function: not found
Aufruf: grep [OPTION]… MUSTER [DATEI]…
Try 'grep --help' for more information.
./feeder-restart: 11: ./feeder-restart: Syntax error: } unexpected

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #53 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #52)
 (In reply to comment #51)
  Hi,
  
  On Monday 16 September 2013 09:24:53 you wrote:
   Yes I have done that. But is it really necessary to run the script each 
   time
   when I log to run the script?
  
  In the sense that the start-up order of nepomukfilewatch/nepomukfileindexer
  and 
  akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is not guaranteed, yes it is necessary to check this 
  condition at login when these processes are started.
  
   When I run the script manually I get an exception:
   ./feeder-restart: 11: ./feeder-restart: Syntax error: } unexpected
  
  How did you install the script? Was it by copy and paste or by moving the 
  downloaded file?
  
  This is standard Bash scripting and shouldn't present a syntax error unless 
  the file is somehow corrupted.
  
  Regards,
  Neil Darlow
 
 Just downloaded the file from here, run chmod und executed the file.
 
 But sorry, this was not the complete error output:
 
 ./feeder-restart: 9: ./feeder-restart: function: not found
 Aufruf: grep [OPTION]… MUSTER [DATEI]…
 Try 'grep --help' for more information.
 ./feeder-restart: 11: ./feeder-restart: Syntax error: } unexpecte

the errror occurs because of this:

grep $1

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #54 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
OK, now I have managed that the nepomuk feeder runs correct. But the
distribution list does not work for me...

I will wait für Kubuntu 13.10, maybe the full system update solves the
problem.

Thanks guys for your help!

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #55 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
(In reply to comment #54)
 OK, now I have managed that the nepomuk feeder runs correct. But the
 distribution list does not work for me...
 
 I will wait für Kubuntu 13.10, maybe the full system update solves the
 problem.
 
 Thanks guys for your help!

Finally, it works on my machine too. The Problem was, that nepomuk had not
indexed correct the Akonadi data. I had to make Nepomuk rescan everything, now
it works even when I restart my Computer without any script

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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--- Comment #42 from postdo...@yahoo.fr ---
I am really sorry to say that, but, no, it still doesn't work in kde 4.11.1,
opensuse packages.

A _single_ email now gets send to server (google in my case) for delivery, but
the recipient is still list_name@computer_name. Bummer.

What should I do?

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Neil Darlow]

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--- Comment #43 from Neil Darlow n...@darlow.co.uk ---
Created attachment 82326
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Workaround for akonadi/nepomuk startup ordering

I have found that this problem is caused by a startup ordering problem relating
to akonadi and nepomuk.

Specifically, for akonadi address resource indexing to work correctly,
nepomukfilewatch and nepomukfileindexer must start before
akonadi_nepomuk_feeder. If this does not happen then addresses are not indexed
and address expansion fails.

This script detects the condition that akonadi_nepomuk_feeder is started before
nepomukfilewatch/nepomukfileindexer and, in that case, it sends a HUP signal to
akonadi_nepomuk_feeder which causes it to respawn. Indexing will then commence
correctly.

Copy the script to .e.g. /usr/local/bin and make it executable then add it to
your KDE autostart as a script. It will execute at the next login.

I have been running this script on fedora-based netbook and desktop systems for
months now and my akonadi address resource expansion works flawlessly.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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--- Comment #44 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
Kubuntu 13.04, KDE 4.11.1 and it dies not work. Will try the script

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--- Comment #45 from postdo...@yahoo.fr ---
@Neil Thanks for the script!! I am not sure if this is what solved it for me
or the good ol'

rm -rf `find ~/ -name *nepomuk*`

that I had forgotten to run before trying to send an email, silly me.

Anyway, it now works for me (at least until the next upgrade ;-).

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Daniel Hornung]

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--- Comment #46 from Daniel Hornung daniel.horn...@gmx.de ---
(In reply to comment #45)
 rm -rf `find ~/ -name *nepomuk*`

Half off-topic, but it's generally safer (and clearer) to say

find ~/ -name *nepomuk* -delete

The order is important here!

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[werner]

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--- Comment #40 from wer...@hoernerfranzracing.de ---
(In reply to comment #38)
ok, seems to be fixed, finally :D
(using kmail from kde 4.11.1, kubuntu 12.04 packages).

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Allen Winter]

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Allen Winter win...@kde.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 CC||win...@kde.org
   Version Fixed In||4.11.1
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #41 from Allen Winter win...@kde.org ---
resolving then.  thanks for reporting

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Konrad Renner]

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Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at changed:

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[Konrad Renner]

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--- Comment #39 from Konrad Renner koni_ren...@gmx.at ---
same problem in Kubuntu 13.04 with KDE 4.11

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

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--- Comment #38 from wer...@hoernerfranzracing.de ---
same here, 4.10.3 (kubuntu 12.04): Messages to distribution lists are being
sent to invalid receipient listname@mycomputername
- this bug has been resolved several times in 4.x history, but keeps coming
back over and over again, what a PITA

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[kmail2] [Bug 223034] cannot send mail to distribution list

[Christoph Feck]

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Christoph Feck christ...@maxiom.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|addressbook |general
Version|1.13.0  |4.10
Product|kmail   |kmail2

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