Re: experiences with krb clients on guest wireless networks?

2010-02-26 Thread Benjamin Kiessling
Hi,

the best solution as far as I know would be a IP over DNS tunnel.
That works even when using other DNS servers is prohibited, but it is
almost certainly illegal in the US (in Europe it is) to use them to
circumvent port blocking. This will get you around almost all fascist
firewalls and censorship systems. If you just want to get Kerberos
working in most environments (i.e. not some authoritarian dictatorships
like Saudi Arabia or China) just using port 443 should be completely
sufficient.

Best Regards,
Benjamin


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remctld on windows XP

2010-02-26 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Hi Everyone,

Looking at the remctl web site, it says that the remctl server is not
supported on windows. We would like to use remctld on Windows XP. What
would be involved in making that work? Is that possible?

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: experiences with krb clients on guest wireless networks?

2010-02-26 Thread Greg Hudson
On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 22:13 -0500, Abe Singer wrote:
 Some of our users have had the problem of being on guest wireless
 networks (e.g. at universities) which are heavily firewalled, blocking
 everything except tcp ports 22, 80, and 443 (and sometimes udp/tcp 53).
 Needless to say, clients can't talk to our KDC from that network.

It doesn't help you now, but we're hoping that IAKERB (due out in 1.9)
can eventually help with this situation, although it will require app
support.  With IAKERB, heavily firewalled clients can get tickets using
app servers as a proxy, without trusting the app server like you would
sending the password.



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Re: remctld on windows

2010-02-26 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Jeffrey Altman wrote:
 On 2/25/2010 9:52 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
   
 Jason Edgecombe ja...@rampaginggeek.com writes:

 
 Dang. Thanks.
   
 The drawback to the Java server implementation is that it doesn't actually
 run anything, just provides a Java class that handles the protocol and
 lets you get the command to do with what you want.  But with that said, if
 you have any Java developers on staff, you may want to try that approach
 and see if that gives you what you want.

 I expect to have some resources allocated to do additional work on the
 Java code (both client and server) within the next six months if there's
 anything anyone would particularly like to see.

 

 The important question is what commands do you want to execute on
 Windows using remctld?

 I want to add a remctl interface to Network Identity Manager for the
 client side and create
 a native remctld that adds commands via a dll based plugin interface for
 the server side.

 Jeffrey Altman
   
We want to have a tool for our help desk students to list and kill 
processes for other users on workstations along with being able to 
trigger a remote shutdown or reboot.

Sincerely,
Jason

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Re: remctld on windows

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Jason Edgecombe ja...@rampaginggeek.com wrote:
 We want to have a tool for our help desk students to list and kill
 processes for other users on workstations along with being able to
 trigger a remote shutdown or reboot.

Tasklist.exe, taskkill.exe and shutdown.exe are already on Windows 
systems and already do this, assuming you have the proper admin share 
access enabled on the remote system.

The more generic psexec.exe is available from sysinternals:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897553.aspx
and the Linux version of it at:
http://eol.ovh.org/winexe/

There is also the wmic.exe command and its associated options:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742610.aspx

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Re: remctld on windows

2010-02-26 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Christopher D. Clausen wrote:
 Jason Edgecombe ja...@rampaginggeek.com wrote:
 We want to have a tool for our help desk students to list and kill
 processes for other users on workstations along with being able to
 trigger a remote shutdown or reboot.

 Tasklist.exe, taskkill.exe and shutdown.exe are already on Windows 
 systems and already do this, assuming you have the proper admin share 
 access enabled on the remote system.

 The more generic psexec.exe is available from sysinternals:
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897553.aspx
 and the Linux version of it at:
 http://eol.ovh.org/winexe/

 There is also the wmic.exe command and its associated options:
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742610.aspx
Can this be run by non-priviledged used without needing the admin password?

I need a kind of remote sudo to do the task list and such, preferably 
cross-platform. We have an in-house system that I would like to replace 
for various reasons.

Jason

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Re: remctld on windows

2010-02-26 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Jason Edgecombe ja...@rampaginggeek.com wrote:
 Christopher D. Clausen wrote:
 Jason Edgecombe ja...@rampaginggeek.com wrote:
 We want to have a tool for our help desk students to list and kill
 processes for other users on workstations along with being able to
 trigger a remote shutdown or reboot.

 Tasklist.exe, taskkill.exe and shutdown.exe are already on Windows
 systems and already do this, assuming you have the proper admin share
 access enabled on the remote system.

 The more generic psexec.exe is available from sysinternals:
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897553.aspx
 and the Linux version of it at:
 http://eol.ovh.org/winexe/

 There is also the wmic.exe command and its associated options:
 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742610.aspx

 Can this be run by non-priviledged used without needing the admin
 password?
 I need a kind of remote sudo to do the task list and such, preferably
 cross-platform. We have an in-house system that I would like to
 replace for various reasons.

I am fairly certain you can grant the ability to force shutdown from a 
remote system without needing a user to be in the Administrators group 
on a system.  Not sure about the other commands.  I'd hope not just 
anyone could start killing my processes though, that would be bad.

-

You could have remctld on non-windows call commands using 
http://eol.ovh.org/winexe/ with the appropriate parameters passed in. 
This actually might be simpler as you could keep the credentials used 
for authentication on the single system running remctld and ACL commands 
there to subsets of computers instead of needing to configure remctld on 
every computer.

In theory the user on the remctl side only needs permission to make the 
call through remctld and it will have embedded credentials to access the 
system.

CDC


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