Re: Rawhide Kconfig changes late in the -rc cycle

2023-02-13 Thread Justin Forbes
On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 1:37 AM Ondrej Mosnáček  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:10 PM Justin Forbes  wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 11:28 AM Paul Moore  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Paul Moore  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Fedora Kernel People,
> > > >
> > > > The SELinux folks recently stumbled across some test failures due to a
> > > > change in the Rawhide kernel config that happened this week while we
> > > > are at -rc7 (see lore archive link below).  Now, to be clear, I think
> > > > the Kconfig change is good, TIOCSTI is generally pretty scary, but in
> > > > my opinion changing the kernel config at the -rc7 stage is also a bit
> > > > scary :)  I don't know all the background on the Rawhide change, or if
> > > > there is a policy for Rawhide Kconfig changes, but if it is possible I
> > > > would suggest the in the future it might be advisable to restrict
> > > > Kconfig changes past -rc5 (give or take) to only those which are
> > > > critical changes.
> > > >
> > > > Test/CI failures this late in the kernel -rc cycle are always a little
> > > > worrisome and it would be nice to know that we're not intentionally
> > > > making it worse ;)
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/selinux/cahc9vhrt0d-xwkw8ulgomxsaqfpa4mmp6+sl5kfonbf-mz8...@mail.gmail.com
> > >
> > > ... and of course as soon as I hit send on the previous email I see a
> > > new test/CI run has completed with CONFIG_LEGACY_TIOCSTI back to being
> > > set/y :)  Regardless, I'd still like to encourage restraint on Kconfig
> > > changes late in the -rc cycle if possible.
> > >
> > Not sure why there would be another with it set to =y, it is set to =y
> > for ELN/RHEL, but is turned off for Fedora.   I do apologize for the
> > late addition. I do try to set them earlier, but due to some existing
> > MRs and other priorities I waited and did not set any of the 6.2
> > configs for Fedora until this week.
>
> There's something weird going on, because it has been flipped several
> times in dist-git (kernel-x86_64-fedora.config file):
> 4376058937ad4fea84039d3f771ff7353add9840:
>   kernel-6.2.0-0.rc7.20230210git38c1e0c65865.54
>   changed y->n
> 64f643ed7fd2868bfaa8e230acfe3d547a58e626:
>   kernel-6.2.0-0.rc7.20230210git38c1e0c65865.54
>   changed n->y
> 9c6fc5421516884b09e8f7ce36dffbf8c4ca66aa:
>   kernel-6.2.0-0.rc7.20230209git0983f6bf2bfc.52
>   changed y->n
> 137e8e95cc84597967b6d994ea3d088d53f7ce6e:
>   kernel-6.2.0-0.rc0.20221219gitf9ff5644bcc0.7
>   initially set to y
>
> Some maintainer script gremlins acting up? :)

Sadly this wasn't automated, it was a forgotten git push one day, and
a dist-git push before my coffee the next (it wasn't built before it
was fixed).

Justin
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Re: Rawhide Kconfig changes late in the -rc cycle

2023-02-10 Thread Ondrej Mosnáček
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:10 PM Justin Forbes  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 11:28 AM Paul Moore  wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Paul Moore  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Fedora Kernel People,
> > >
> > > The SELinux folks recently stumbled across some test failures due to a
> > > change in the Rawhide kernel config that happened this week while we
> > > are at -rc7 (see lore archive link below).  Now, to be clear, I think
> > > the Kconfig change is good, TIOCSTI is generally pretty scary, but in
> > > my opinion changing the kernel config at the -rc7 stage is also a bit
> > > scary :)  I don't know all the background on the Rawhide change, or if
> > > there is a policy for Rawhide Kconfig changes, but if it is possible I
> > > would suggest the in the future it might be advisable to restrict
> > > Kconfig changes past -rc5 (give or take) to only those which are
> > > critical changes.
> > >
> > > Test/CI failures this late in the kernel -rc cycle are always a little
> > > worrisome and it would be nice to know that we're not intentionally
> > > making it worse ;)
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/selinux/cahc9vhrt0d-xwkw8ulgomxsaqfpa4mmp6+sl5kfonbf-mz8...@mail.gmail.com
> >
> > ... and of course as soon as I hit send on the previous email I see a
> > new test/CI run has completed with CONFIG_LEGACY_TIOCSTI back to being
> > set/y :)  Regardless, I'd still like to encourage restraint on Kconfig
> > changes late in the -rc cycle if possible.
> >
> Not sure why there would be another with it set to =y, it is set to =y
> for ELN/RHEL, but is turned off for Fedora.   I do apologize for the
> late addition. I do try to set them earlier, but due to some existing
> MRs and other priorities I waited and did not set any of the 6.2
> configs for Fedora until this week.

There's something weird going on, because it has been flipped several
times in dist-git (kernel-x86_64-fedora.config file):
4376058937ad4fea84039d3f771ff7353add9840:
  kernel-6.2.0-0.rc7.20230210git38c1e0c65865.54
  changed y->n
64f643ed7fd2868bfaa8e230acfe3d547a58e626:
  kernel-6.2.0-0.rc7.20230210git38c1e0c65865.54
  changed n->y
9c6fc5421516884b09e8f7ce36dffbf8c4ca66aa:
  kernel-6.2.0-0.rc7.20230209git0983f6bf2bfc.52
  changed y->n
137e8e95cc84597967b6d994ea3d088d53f7ce6e:
  kernel-6.2.0-0.rc0.20221219gitf9ff5644bcc0.7
  initially set to y

Some maintainer script gremlins acting up? :)
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Re: Rawhide Kconfig changes late in the -rc cycle

2023-02-10 Thread Justin Forbes
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 11:28 AM Paul Moore  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Paul Moore  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Fedora Kernel People,
> >
> > The SELinux folks recently stumbled across some test failures due to a
> > change in the Rawhide kernel config that happened this week while we
> > are at -rc7 (see lore archive link below).  Now, to be clear, I think
> > the Kconfig change is good, TIOCSTI is generally pretty scary, but in
> > my opinion changing the kernel config at the -rc7 stage is also a bit
> > scary :)  I don't know all the background on the Rawhide change, or if
> > there is a policy for Rawhide Kconfig changes, but if it is possible I
> > would suggest the in the future it might be advisable to restrict
> > Kconfig changes past -rc5 (give or take) to only those which are
> > critical changes.
> >
> > Test/CI failures this late in the kernel -rc cycle are always a little
> > worrisome and it would be nice to know that we're not intentionally
> > making it worse ;)
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/selinux/cahc9vhrt0d-xwkw8ulgomxsaqfpa4mmp6+sl5kfonbf-mz8...@mail.gmail.com
>
> ... and of course as soon as I hit send on the previous email I see a
> new test/CI run has completed with CONFIG_LEGACY_TIOCSTI back to being
> set/y :)  Regardless, I'd still like to encourage restraint on Kconfig
> changes late in the -rc cycle if possible.
>
Not sure why there would be another with it set to =y, it is set to =y
for ELN/RHEL, but is turned off for Fedora.   I do apologize for the
late addition. I do try to set them earlier, but due to some existing
MRs and other priorities I waited and did not set any of the 6.2
configs for Fedora until this week.

Justin
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Re: Rawhide Kconfig changes late in the -rc cycle

2023-02-10 Thread Paul Moore
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Paul Moore  wrote:
>
> Hi Fedora Kernel People,
>
> The SELinux folks recently stumbled across some test failures due to a
> change in the Rawhide kernel config that happened this week while we
> are at -rc7 (see lore archive link below).  Now, to be clear, I think
> the Kconfig change is good, TIOCSTI is generally pretty scary, but in
> my opinion changing the kernel config at the -rc7 stage is also a bit
> scary :)  I don't know all the background on the Rawhide change, or if
> there is a policy for Rawhide Kconfig changes, but if it is possible I
> would suggest the in the future it might be advisable to restrict
> Kconfig changes past -rc5 (give or take) to only those which are
> critical changes.
>
> Test/CI failures this late in the kernel -rc cycle are always a little
> worrisome and it would be nice to know that we're not intentionally
> making it worse ;)
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/selinux/cahc9vhrt0d-xwkw8ulgomxsaqfpa4mmp6+sl5kfonbf-mz8...@mail.gmail.com

... and of course as soon as I hit send on the previous email I see a
new test/CI run has completed with CONFIG_LEGACY_TIOCSTI back to being
set/y :)  Regardless, I'd still like to encourage restraint on Kconfig
changes late in the -rc cycle if possible.

-- 
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Rawhide Kconfig changes late in the -rc cycle

2023-02-10 Thread Paul Moore
Hi Fedora Kernel People,

The SELinux folks recently stumbled across some test failures due to a
change in the Rawhide kernel config that happened this week while we
are at -rc7 (see lore archive link below).  Now, to be clear, I think
the Kconfig change is good, TIOCSTI is generally pretty scary, but in
my opinion changing the kernel config at the -rc7 stage is also a bit
scary :)  I don't know all the background on the Rawhide change, or if
there is a policy for Rawhide Kconfig changes, but if it is possible I
would suggest the in the future it might be advisable to restrict
Kconfig changes past -rc5 (give or take) to only those which are
critical changes.

Test/CI failures this late in the kernel -rc cycle are always a little
worrisome and it would be nice to know that we're not intentionally
making it worse ;)

https://lore.kernel.org/selinux/cahc9vhrt0d-xwkw8ulgomxsaqfpa4mmp6+sl5kfonbf-mz8...@mail.gmail.com

-- 
paul-moore.com
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