Re: [Kernel-packages] [Bug 1160346] Re: do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)

2014-03-06 Thread Fscalc
Folks,

At the risk of sounding in inappropriately (again), I wanted to
reiterate that the bug report I filed was when I tried to update my
Pentium M ThinkPad from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.04.3 / 12.04.4.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/336527/how-to-upgrade-
ubuntu-12-04-2-12-04-3-to-12-04-4-the-next-hardware-
enablement/417581#417581

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/ubuntu-12-04-4-released-new-kernel

http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-why-12-04-2-to-12-04-3-didnt-upgrade-
kernel-3-5-3-8-and-or-xorg-368181.html

That was where I created unmet dependencies and hosed my upgrade
manager until I undid via the Synaptic Package Manager.

Neither in the read me nor on any of the above pages did I understand
that I should not do such an upgrade on a notebook with non-PAE
processor. Also, as I was trying to perform the update, I did not get
an error message until the upgrade was partially complete.

Will the work done help people like me, those with a non-PAE processor
who try to upgrade to a more current version of the 12.04 LTS?

Again, I want to repeat how much respect and appreciation I have for
the work you folks do.

-F. Stephen Costa


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Chris Bainbridge
chris.bainbri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I added some text about Pentium M to
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE . There is now some
 overlap with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE - they pages could
 probably do with being merged and cleaned up.

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 Title:
   do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system
   without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)

 Status in Ubuntu Release Upgrader:
   New
 Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
   Invalid
 Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released

 Bug description:
   Attempting to upgrade from Precise with a non-PAE kernel will result
   in a failed upgrade. do-release-upgrade should check whether the user
   is using a non-PAE kernel and refuse to run, rather than upgrading to
   a broken system with no installed kernel.

   After downloading 1.5GB+ of data and over 1000 new packages, the
   upgrade will eventually report failure. Looking through the logs there
   is no kernel installed because of the error This kernel does not
   support a non-PAE CPU.:

   Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic.^M
   Unpacking linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic (from 
 .../linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb) ...^M
   This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.^M
   dpkg: error processing 
 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb 
 (--unpack):^M
subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1^M
   No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already

   Related bugs:

   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/897786 Kernel is 
 dropping non-PAE flavour
   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1068862 upgrade from 
 12.04 to 12.10 on a sans-pae CPU leaves kernel broken

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Title:
  do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system
  without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)

Status in Ubuntu Release Upgrader:
  New
Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-release-upgrader” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Attempting to upgrade from Precise with a non-PAE kernel will result
  in a failed upgrade. do-release-upgrade should check whether the user
  is using a non-PAE kernel and refuse to run, rather than upgrading to
  a broken system with no installed kernel.

  After downloading 1.5GB+ of data and over 1000 new packages, the
  upgrade will eventually report failure. Looking through the logs there
  is no kernel installed because of the error This kernel does not
  support a non-PAE CPU.:

  Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic.^M
  Unpacking linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic (from 
.../linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb) ...^M
  This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.^M
  dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb 
(--unpack):^M
   subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1^M
  No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already

  Related bugs:

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/897786 Kernel is 
dropping non-PAE flavour
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1068862 upgrade from 
12.04 to 12.10 on a 

Re: [Kernel-packages] [Bug 1160346] Re: do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)

2014-03-04 Thread Fscalc
Folks,

It probably isn't appropriate for me to jump in here as I am not a
developer or part of the team that squashes the bugs. I am just one of the
people who filed the bug report, but what John Washington wrote struck me.

I am a person who tries to be an advocate for Linux, Ubuntu in particular.
One of the most compelling messages I've had is that older notebooks can be
reborn as capable boxes. When I show someone their old ThinkPad running a
stable, easy-to-use, secure OS with a modern browser, I've won more than a
few converts.

What Mr. Washington said about all those great old ThinkPads that can stand
as persuasive examples of what is possible is so true. The Pentium M issue
is a roadblock.

I don't wish to distract from the process, so I will just say, Thank you.
The work you folks do is important and is very much appreciated.

Best wishes,

- F. Stephen Costa.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:31 PM, JohnWashington ubu...@johnwash.co.ukwrote:

 Re #10 and #11, it gave me a chuckle! :)  But actually there's something
 serious here as well.  Not just that the wiki would seem to be not quite
 right, but also that some well-understood convention is needed, for use
 when one person justifiably assigns a bug to another.

 Indeed, even assigning a bug to oneself needs looking at.  A while ago,
 a bug I'm interested in, which had no assignee, a guy assigned to
 himself.  Of course I was pleased, hope of light at the end of the
 tunnel!  A month went by.  And then it was assigned back to nobody.  In
 fact, this guy, who had no track record, had assigned himself on 3 other
 bugs, same story.

 So more than a month was wasted, when someone productive could have
 stepped forward.

 PS: Great to see this Pentium-M stuff getting some love at last.  I know
 that many devs with screaming fast i7 kit think it's a non-issue, too
 old to worry about, affects a tiny minority.  But I've encountered a
 number of people tempted to dip their toe in the water, try out Linux
 for the first time and run away at the first hint of trouble, due to
 Pentium-M on old Thinkpads.  They're certainly not signing up to
 Launchpad to be counted.  I've even seen where a mag has published a
 book about Ubuntu and put a 64-bit CD on the cover -- the punter had no
 idea why it didn't work, same outcome, disgust and back to the arms of
 Redmond.

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 Title:
   do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system
   without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)

 Status in Ubuntu Release Upgrader:
   New
 Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
   Invalid
 Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu:
   Triaged

 Bug description:
   Attempting to upgrade from Precise with a non-PAE kernel will result
   in a failed upgrade. do-release-upgrade should check whether the user
   is using a non-PAE kernel and refuse to run, rather than upgrading to
   a broken system with no installed kernel.

   After downloading 1.5GB+ of data and over 1000 new packages, the
   upgrade will eventually report failure. Looking through the logs there
   is no kernel installed because of the error This kernel does not
   support a non-PAE CPU.:

   Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic.^M
   Unpacking linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic (from
 .../linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb) ...^M
   This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.^M
   dpkg: error processing
 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb
 (--unpack):^M
subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1^M
   No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already

   Related bugs:

   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/897786 Kernel is
 dropping non-PAE flavour
   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1068862 upgrade
 from 12.04 to 12.10 on a sans-pae CPU leaves kernel broken

 To manage notifications about this bug go to:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1160346/+subscriptions


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Title:
  do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system
  without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)

Status in Ubuntu Release Upgrader:
  New
Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in “ubuntu-release-upgrader” package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  Attempting to upgrade from Precise with a non-PAE kernel will result
  in a failed upgrade. do-release-upgrade should check whether the user
  is using a non-PAE kernel and refuse to run, rather than upgrading to
  a broken system with no installed kernel.

  After downloading 1.5GB+ of data and over 1000 new