[Kernel-packages] [Bug 751689] Re: [Lenovo Thinkpad x201s] Overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto'
No explanation? Just High Importance, and then Won't Fix? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/751689 Title: [Lenovo Thinkpad x201s] Overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto' Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux source package in Maverick: Won't Fix Status in linux source package in Natty: Won't Fix Status in linux source package in Precise: Won't Fix Status in thinkfan package in Debian: Fix Released Status in linux package in Fedora: Won't Fix Bug description: On my Thinkpad x201s with an i7, if I utilize all of the CPUs/hyperthreads, the machine can be made to overheat very quickly. This is because of the default level setting of 'auto' in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan. On 'auto', the fan only ever goes up to around 4500rpm, while in 'disengaged' mode it can go as high as 6400rpm. At 4500rpm, the CPU continues to climb until the system is forcibly shutdown at 100C. If I reload thinkpad_acpi like so: $ sudo rmmod thinkpad_acpi $ sudo modprobe thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1 Then I can set the fan to disengaged mode manually: echo "level disengaged" > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan With this setting, I can utilize all of the CPUs for an extended time and not surpass 85C, still pretty hot but well under the 100C range. Furthermore, setting to level '7' (the supposed max fan speed) runs the fan at ~5300, well below the maximum fan speed. In maverick this did not seem to be as much of a problem (perhaps because of the lack of the big kernel lock in natty?). Related bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675433 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610722 (against thinkfan package, but demonstrates that other x201 users are having the same problem) ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: linux-image-2.6.38-7-generic 2.6.38-7.39 Regression: Yes Reproducible: Yes ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-7.39-generic 2.6.38 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-7-generic x86_64 AcpiTables: Error: command ['gksu', '-D', 'Apport', '--', '/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py'] failed with exit code 1: GNOME_SUDO_PASS Sorry, try again. sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23. Architecture: amd64 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jamie 2641 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: jamie 2641 F...m pulseaudio CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf252 irq 43' Mixer name : 'Intel IbexPeak HDMI' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa2156,00100302 HDA:80862804,17aa21b5,0010' Controls : 12 Simple ctrls : 6 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6QHT28WW-1.09' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6QHT28WW-1.09' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Date: Tue Apr 5 11:56:28 2011 EcryptfsInUse: Yes HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=58280e6e-d161-43ea-8593-a89fb7b6851a InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release amd64 (20100427.1) MachineType: LENOVO 5129CTO ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-7-generic root=UUID=82571cfb-fdda-4d2f-b708-f8924aa0fe21 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.38-7-generic N/A linux-backports-modules-2.6.38-7-generic N/A linux-firmware1.49 SourcePackage: linux UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-02-24 (39 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 04/20/2010 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: 6QET44WW (1.14 ) dmi.board.name: 5129CTO dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: Not Available dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr6QET44WW(1.14):bd04/20/2010:svnLENOVO:pn5129CTO:pvrThinkPadX201s:rvnLENOVO:rn5129CTO:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable: dmi.product.name: 5129CTO dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X201s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/751689/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 751689] Re: [Lenovo Thinkpad x201s] Overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto'
penalvch: do look more closely. Ellieviolet46 is clearly a link spammer. If you go to the site she recommends, for a few $$ she'll write you an essay! :) And she's done the same on two other Launchpad bugs. Sadly it seems there's no way to stop this kind of thing or even report it. See bug 45419. And see how long THAT bug has been open and weep. Perhaps it will help if more people tick the 'me too' on it, for surely it affects every one of us. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/751689 Title: [Lenovo Thinkpad x201s] Overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto' Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux source package in Maverick: Won't Fix Status in linux source package in Natty: Won't Fix Status in linux source package in Precise: Confirmed Status in thinkfan package in Debian: Fix Released Status in linux package in Fedora: Unknown Bug description: On my Thinkpad x201s with an i7, if I utilize all of the CPUs/hyperthreads, the machine can be made to overheat very quickly. This is because of the default level setting of 'auto' in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan. On 'auto', the fan only ever goes up to around 4500rpm, while in 'disengaged' mode it can go as high as 6400rpm. At 4500rpm, the CPU continues to climb until the system is forcibly shutdown at 100C. If I reload thinkpad_acpi like so: $ sudo rmmod thinkpad_acpi $ sudo modprobe thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1 Then I can set the fan to disengaged mode manually: echo "level disengaged" > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan With this setting, I can utilize all of the CPUs for an extended time and not surpass 85C, still pretty hot but well under the 100C range. Furthermore, setting to level '7' (the supposed max fan speed) runs the fan at ~5300, well below the maximum fan speed. In maverick this did not seem to be as much of a problem (perhaps because of the lack of the big kernel lock in natty?). Related bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675433 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610722 (against thinkfan package, but demonstrates that other x201 users are having the same problem) ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: linux-image-2.6.38-7-generic 2.6.38-7.39 Regression: Yes Reproducible: Yes ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-7.39-generic 2.6.38 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-7-generic x86_64 AcpiTables: Error: command ['gksu', '-D', 'Apport', '--', '/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py'] failed with exit code 1: GNOME_SUDO_PASS Sorry, try again. sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23. Architecture: amd64 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jamie 2641 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: jamie 2641 F...m pulseaudio CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf252 irq 43' Mixer name : 'Intel IbexPeak HDMI' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa2156,00100302 HDA:80862804,17aa21b5,0010' Controls : 12 Simple ctrls : 6 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6QHT28WW-1.09' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6QHT28WW-1.09' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Date: Tue Apr 5 11:56:28 2011 EcryptfsInUse: Yes HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=58280e6e-d161-43ea-8593-a89fb7b6851a InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release amd64 (20100427.1) MachineType: LENOVO 5129CTO ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-7-generic root=UUID=82571cfb-fdda-4d2f-b708-f8924aa0fe21 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.38-7-generic N/A linux-backports-modules-2.6.38-7-generic N/A linux-firmware1.49 SourcePackage: linux UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-02-24 (39 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 04/20/2010 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: 6QET44WW (1.14 ) dmi.board.name: 5129CTO dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: Not Available dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias:
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 751689] Re: [Lenovo Thinkpad x201s] Overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto'
It isn't don't care so much as it is that the bug lies in the laptop's bios, not linux. I'm not competent to say whether it's in the bios, but for the sake of discussion I can accept that. But it's noticeable that some of the reports here are indicating that things were better in the past, then got worse with later revisions of Ubuntu. Doesn't that indicate that, regardless of where the bug lies, there is the possibility of working around it outside the bios? Phillip, I don't feel you should dismiss Mark so hastily. That all said, clearly it's a problem that will be difficult for developers to reproduce, and which factors such as exact hardware revision, bios revision, thickness of fluff in the fan duct (!) and much else will all influence. Good accurate reporting will be needed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/751689 Title: [Lenovo Thinkpad x201s] Overheat due to slow fans when on 'auto' Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in “linux” source package in Maverick: Won't Fix Status in “linux” source package in Natty: Won't Fix Status in “linux” source package in Precise: Confirmed Status in “thinkfan” package in Debian: Fix Released Status in “linux” package in Fedora: Unknown Bug description: On my Thinkpad x201s with an i7, if I utilize all of the CPUs/hyperthreads, the machine can be made to overheat very quickly. This is because of the default level setting of 'auto' in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan. On 'auto', the fan only ever goes up to around 4500rpm, while in 'disengaged' mode it can go as high as 6400rpm. At 4500rpm, the CPU continues to climb until the system is forcibly shutdown at 100C. If I reload thinkpad_acpi like so: $ sudo rmmod thinkpad_acpi $ sudo modprobe thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1 Then I can set the fan to disengaged mode manually: echo level disengaged /proc/acpi/ibm/fan With this setting, I can utilize all of the CPUs for an extended time and not surpass 85C, still pretty hot but well under the 100C range. Furthermore, setting to level '7' (the supposed max fan speed) runs the fan at ~5300, well below the maximum fan speed. In maverick this did not seem to be as much of a problem (perhaps because of the lack of the big kernel lock in natty?). Related bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675433 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610722 (against thinkfan package, but demonstrates that other x201 users are having the same problem) ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: linux-image-2.6.38-7-generic 2.6.38-7.39 Regression: Yes Reproducible: Yes ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-7.39-generic 2.6.38 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-7-generic x86_64 AcpiTables: Error: command ['gksu', '-D', 'Apport', '--', '/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py'] failed with exit code 1: GNOME_SUDO_PASS Sorry, try again. sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23. Architecture: amd64 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jamie 2641 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: jamie 2641 F...m pulseaudio CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf252 irq 43' Mixer name : 'Intel IbexPeak HDMI' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa2156,00100302 HDA:80862804,17aa21b5,0010' Controls : 12 Simple ctrls : 6 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6QHT28WW-1.09' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6QHT28WW-1.09' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Date: Tue Apr 5 11:56:28 2011 EcryptfsInUse: Yes HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=58280e6e-d161-43ea-8593-a89fb7b6851a InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100427.1) MachineType: LENOVO 5129CTO ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-7-generic root=UUID=82571cfb-fdda-4d2f-b708-f8924aa0fe21 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.38-7-generic N/A linux-backports-modules-2.6.38-7-generic N/A linux-firmware1.49 SourcePackage: linux UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-02-24 (39 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 04/20/2010 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1160346] Re: do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU)
Re #10 and #11, it gave me a chuckle! :) But actually there's something serious here as well. Not just that the wiki would seem to be not quite right, but also that some well-understood convention is needed, for use when one person justifiably assigns a bug to another. Indeed, even assigning a bug to oneself needs looking at. A while ago, a bug I'm interested in, which had no assignee, a guy assigned to himself. Of course I was pleased, hope of light at the end of the tunnel! A month went by. And then it was assigned back to nobody. In fact, this guy, who had no track record, had assigned himself on 3 other bugs, same story. So more than a month was wasted, when someone productive could have stepped forward. PS: Great to see this Pentium-M stuff getting some love at last. I know that many devs with screaming fast i7 kit think it's a non-issue, too old to worry about, affects a tiny minority. But I've encountered a number of people tempted to dip their toe in the water, try out Linux for the first time and run away at the first hint of trouble, due to Pentium-M on old Thinkpads. They're certainly not signing up to Launchpad to be counted. I've even seen where a mag has published a book about Ubuntu and put a 64-bit CD on the cover -- the punter had no idea why it didn't work, same outcome, disgust and back to the arms of Redmond. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1160346 Title: do-release-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on Pentium-M fails, breaks system without any warning (This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU) Status in Ubuntu Release Upgrader: New Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “ubuntu-release-upgrader” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Attempting to upgrade from Precise with a non-PAE kernel will result in a failed upgrade. do-release-upgrade should check whether the user is using a non-PAE kernel and refuse to run, rather than upgrading to a broken system with no installed kernel. After downloading 1.5GB+ of data and over 1000 new packages, the upgrade will eventually report failure. Looking through the logs there is no kernel installed because of the error This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.: Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic.^M Unpacking linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic (from .../linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb) ...^M This kernel does not support a non-PAE CPU.^M dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic_3.5.0-26.42_i386.deb (--unpack):^M subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1^M No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already Related bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/897786 Kernel is dropping non-PAE flavour https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1068862 upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 on a sans-pae CPU leaves kernel broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1160346/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
