[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
LXD actually vendors multiple copies of zfs-utils tooling to be compatible with every target version of zfs they want to support. Coinstalling multiple snaps and versioning functionality has been deprecated for snaps. Adding tooling only snaps, or single or rainbow of versions might not gain much compared with an hwe deb. And even there things are questionable w.r.t. unintended pool upgrades. ** Changed in: zfs-linux (Ubuntu) Assignee: Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) => (unassigned) ** Changed in: zfs-linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
I would strongly discourage putting zfs-utils into a snap. I expect many systems admins running zfs storage arrays do not install snapd, and would be loathe to do so. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
** Changed in: zfs-linux (Ubuntu) Assignee: Colin Ian King (colin-king) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
I'll put this on the wish-list agenda for 21.04 ** Changed in: zfs-linux (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Ian King (colin-king) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
** Changed in: zfs-linux (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: zfs-linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
As kernels 5.2.0-x will bring zfs 0.8.x to Bionic LTS, I'd like to draw some attention to this request. People will get the 0.8.x zfs module via HWE but won't be able to do much with the major new features without the userland tools. I tried to install the debs from Eoan, but they require a higher libc version which complicates that route a lot. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
My main reason for suggesting this is that it seems Canonical is easier on snaps wrt. having rolling upgrades. I don't see a reason debs can't do it, but I notice over and over again Canonical is very conservative upgrading major software versions on debs (which is no criticism, just a constatation). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1791143] Re: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap
Is there something inherent in snaps that makes this easier or better than debs? For example, do snaps support multiple installable versions of the same package name? If snaps aren’t inherently better, the same thing could be done with debs using the usual convention for having multiple versions in the archive simultaneously: having zfsutils0.6 and zfsutils0.7 source packages producing similarly versioned-in-the-name binary packages (which in this case conflict as they are not co-installable). Each would depend on an appropriate kernel package that has the matching module. Then zfsutils-linux would be an empty package with: Depends: zfsutils- linux0.7 | zfsutils-linux0.6. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to zfs-linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1791143 Title: Suggestion to make zfsutils-linux a snap Status in zfs-linux package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: This circumvents the need to keep it on the same major version throughout the LTS cycle. LXD is doing snaps, perhaps for zfs this is the best approach as well. Xenial still has zfsutils on generation 0.6, with the module on 0.7. Even when patches are applied as needed that approach has its limitations. E.g. the Bionic cycle might possibly see 2 major zfs releases, who'll say. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1791143/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
