Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread sandeep kumar
I am not sure but what if you make the variable as a volatile?
Hey i tried. But still is showing the same time for int  volatile int.

Thanks
Sandeep



On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:50 PM, ankur dwivedi ankurengg2...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am not sure but what if you make the variable as a volatile?

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:01 PM, sandeep kumar 
 coolsandyfor...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All
 In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings
 mostly, those read/writes are done to cache only.

 I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
 So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip
 only.

 How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...?

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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread sandeep kumar
let' see

what if you do read and write pattern, in certain order so that it
will be invalidated by the L1/L2/L3 cache everytime?

And how do you suggest we do that?? That is infact my question..



On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Mulyadi Santosa
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 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, sandeep kumar
 coolsandyfor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All
  In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings
 mostly,
  those read/writes are done to cache only.
 
  I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
  So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip
 only.

 let' see

 what if you do read and write pattern, in certain order so that it
 will be invalidated by the L1/L2/L3 cache everytime?

 AFAIK, one thing for sure, reading data from sequentially and re-read
 them will make end up reading cache in the 2nd operation and so on.

 I think the most certain way to do it is to read data (or write) data
 bigger than total L1/L2/L3 cache.

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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread sandeep kumar
volatile only say to the compiler to not put the variable in a register.
Could i ask why does you want to mesure the speed of the RAM ? Is it to
study the NUMA behavior of the machine?

In development phase of the board, we are trying to measure RAM performance
gain while changing type of the RAM.
The standard benchmark tools are giving us the Cache performance only. So
we want to try some method to measure RAM performance.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Karaoui mohamed lamine
mohar...@gmail.comwrote:



 2013/2/27 sandeep kumar coolsandyfor...@gmail.com

 I am not sure but what if you make the variable as a volatile?
 Hey i tried. But still is showing the same time for int  volatile int.


 volatile only say to the compiler to not put the variable in a register.
 Could i ask why does you want to mesure the speed of the RAM ? Is it to
 study the NUMA behavior of the machine?




 Thanks
 Sandeep



 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:50 PM, ankur dwivedi 
 ankurengg2...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am not sure but what if you make the variable as a volatile?

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:01 PM, sandeep kumar 
 coolsandyfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All
 In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings
 mostly, those read/writes are done to cache only.

 I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
 So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip
 only.

 How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...?

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Kernel updating : export gpio not working ?

2013-02-27 Thread Mylene Josserand
Hi everyone !


I am currently updating the kernel of my company and I have some 
problems about gpios so I am asking you some help ! :)
I think I am in the good mailist because it is the first time I update a 
kernel and a board configuration ! :D

The previous kernel used was 2.6.31.14 and I am trying to update it to 
last stable version 3.7.9.

In the previous kernel for a home-made board (with a IMx27 and a 
ARM9), we used these methods to export gpios in sysfs (for example for 
Gpio OUT) :

mxc_gpio_mode(gpio_number | GPIO_GPIO | GPIO_OUT);
gpio_request(gpio_number, name_of_gpio);
gpio_export(gpio_number, 0);
gpio_direction_output(gpio_number, gpio_value);

In the sysfs, the gpio exported was visible under name_of_gpio.

Now, if I use the same methods, I can not get anything in sysfs except 
gpiochip0, gpiochip32 etc.
I tried to use these functions in a module and I could export a gpio but 
under gpioXX and not name_of_gpio. Moreover, I tried to export a 
gpio using the sysfs interface. I succeeded to export it and set 
direction to out but when I try to set the value, it did not work and 
the value is always set to 0 (and this gpio was configured as OUT in the 
board).

I make a diff about the gpio documentation and the old kernel used did 
not seem to have many differences with the new kernel ! There is only 
some methods added such as gpio_resquest_one and gpio_export_link. I 
tried them without good results.


What am I doing wrong ?
What am I missing to make it work ?
Is there some other configurations to add in the board configuration ?


Thank you for any help/explanation !


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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread anish singh
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:01 PM, sandeep kumar
coolsandyfor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All
 In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings mostly,
 those read/writes are done to cache only.

 I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
 So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip only.
Try below points:
1. I am not sure about snapdragon(is it Qualcomm?) but try
CONFIG_CPU_DCACHE_DISABLE.
2. You are better off programming some DMA master to do large (and
uncached) reads/writes to RAM and timing that.

However simple uncached LDR/STR from the CPU may not be a great
measure of RAM controller perf.

You should always add arm mailing list and please mention the chip set details.
cat /proc/cpuinfo is a great way

 How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...?

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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread anish singh
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:16 PM, sandeep kumar
coolsandyfor...@gmail.com wrote:
Try below points:
1. I am not sure about snapdragon(is it Qualcomm?) but try
CONFIG_CPU_DCACHE_DISABLE.
 I did that already, device is not booting. In our architecture cache is
 tightly coupled with CPU.
Should be discussed with Qualcomm guys here as to the reason
why it doesn't boot up.

2. You are better off programming some DMA master to do large (and
uncached) reads/writes to RAM and timing that.
 DMA is not a standard way, i suppose, as it depends on what I/O peripheral
 we are doing the DMA.
You are doing I/O to RAM so it should do what you want.
CPU-DMA CONTROLLER-RAM

You should always add arm mailing list and please mention the chip set
 details.
cat /proc/cpuinfo is a great way
 Processor   : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
 BogoMIPS: 163.38
 Features: swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls
 CPU implementer : 0x51
 CPU architecture: 7
 CPU variant : 0x1
 CPU part: 0x00f
 CPU revision: 2

 Thanks
 Sandeep




 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:37 PM, anish singh anish198519851...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:01 PM, sandeep kumar
 coolsandyfor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All
  In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings
  mostly,
  those read/writes are done to cache only.
 
  I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
  So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip
  only.
 Try below points:
 1. I am not sure about snapdragon(is it Qualcomm?) but try
 CONFIG_CPU_DCACHE_DISABLE.
 2. You are better off programming some DMA master to do large (and
 uncached) reads/writes to RAM and timing that.

 However simple uncached LDR/STR from the CPU may not be a great
 measure of RAM controller perf.

 You should always add arm mailing list and please mention the chip set
 details.
 cat /proc/cpuinfo is a great way
 
  How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...?
 
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RE: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread buyitian

 From: coolsandyfor...@gmail.com 
 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:01:54 +0530 
 Subject: How to measure the RAM read/write performance 
 To: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org 
 CC: dhyla...@gmail.com 
 
 Hi All 
 In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings 
 mostly, those read/writes are done to cache only. 
 
 I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance. 
 So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip only. 
 
 How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...? 

try to reserve a large region from bootloader(L4 in Qualcomm platform), let's 
say it is 10MB continuous physical memory.
in kernel, map this region to an continuous virtual region, note that the 
pgprot should be uncachable since you want to test without cache.
once you configed like this, you can read/write to this vitual region without 
data cache invovled.

 
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RE: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread buyitian

 From: bu...@live.cn
 To: coolsandyfor...@gmail.com; kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
 Subject: RE: How to measure the RAM read/write performance
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:33:15 +0800
 CC: dhyla...@gmail.com

 
  From: coolsandyfor...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:01:54 +0530
  Subject: How to measure the RAM read/write performance
  To: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
  CC: dhyla...@gmail.com
 
  Hi All
  In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings
  mostly, those read/writes are done to cache only.
 
  I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
  So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip only.
 
  How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...?

 try to reserve a large region from bootloader(L4 in Qualcomm platform), let's 
 say it is 10MB continuous physical memory.

sorry, to be accurate, reserve physical memory is done by kernel cmdline, this 
cmdline parameter can be passed from L4 to kernel, or configed by kernel itself.
the cmdline will be like below:
mem=510M@0 test_region=2M@510M

above example tells kernel you have totally 512MB physical memory, but kernel 
will only use the first 510MB, the latter 2MB memory is used by you. how to map 
and use this region depends on you. 

 in kernel, map this region to an continuous virtual region, note that the 
 pgprot should be uncachable since you want to test without cache.

1. use early_param to get the physical start address and size of test_region, 
or you can just ignore this step and hard code to 510M and 2M for test purpose 
only.

2. use ioremap_nocache() to map this region to a virtual region. note that this 
funtion may fail if you are asking a very large vitual memroy region.

 once you configed like this, you can read/write to this vitual region without 
 data cache invovled.

 
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Re: Kernel updating : export gpio not working ?

2013-02-27 Thread Mylene Josserand
Just to update you that I have found my problem !

In my config file, I did not notice that my own board and an other imx27 
board was enabled ! So the gpios configured was the one from this board 
and not mine's (thanks debugfs !). That is why it did not act like I wanted.

Otherwise, the gpios are still exported as gpioXX and not with 
name_of_gpio. The label name_of_gpio can be found in the debugfs but 
not printed in the sysfs. I don't know if there is a way to change that, 
I will search for it if I have time.

Best regards,


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Le 27/02/2013 11:51, Mylene Josserand a écrit :
 Hi everyone !


 I am currently updating the kernel of my company and I have some
 problems about gpios so I am asking you some help ! :)
 I think I am in the good mailist because it is the first time I update a
 kernel and a board configuration ! :D

 The previous kernel used was 2.6.31.14 and I am trying to update it to
 last stable version 3.7.9.

 In the previous kernel for a home-made board (with a IMx27 and a
 ARM9), we used these methods to export gpios in sysfs (for example for
 Gpio OUT) :

 mxc_gpio_mode(gpio_number | GPIO_GPIO | GPIO_OUT);
 gpio_request(gpio_number, name_of_gpio);
 gpio_export(gpio_number, 0);
 gpio_direction_output(gpio_number, gpio_value);

 In the sysfs, the gpio exported was visible under name_of_gpio.

 Now, if I use the same methods, I can not get anything in sysfs except
 gpiochip0, gpiochip32 etc.
 I tried to use these functions in a module and I could export a gpio but
 under gpioXX and not name_of_gpio. Moreover, I tried to export a
 gpio using the sysfs interface. I succeeded to export it and set
 direction to out but when I try to set the value, it did not work and
 the value is always set to 0 (and this gpio was configured as OUT in the
 board).

 I make a diff about the gpio documentation and the old kernel used did
 not seem to have many differences with the new kernel ! There is only
 some methods added such as gpio_resquest_one and gpio_export_link. I
 tried them without good results.


 What am I doing wrong ?
 What am I missing to make it work ?
 Is there some other configurations to add in the board configuration ?


 Thank you for any help/explanation !



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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:38:00 +0530, sandeep kumar said:

 In development phase of the board, we are trying to measure RAM performance
 gain while changing type of the RAM.
 The standard benchmark tools are giving us the Cache performance only. So
 we want to try some method to measure RAM performance.

The fact that you can't measure the effect of RAM speed because the L1/2/3
cache masks the effect should tell you something :)

If you are seeing a 98% hit rate or so, RAM speed will indeed not matter
much.  If you're seeing a poor cache hit ratio, you're most likely to get
better performance not by changing the RAM, but changing the application
to improve its cache usage.

And of course, if the application's design is one that is resistant to
improved cache hit ratios, it is important you measure RAM performance
*with that application running*, not a benchmark.  This is because if your
application is managing to thrash the cache, the resulting RAM access
patterns will be *highly* sensitive to actual program behavior, and any
corner cases in the hardware may or may not be hit by the benchmark the
same way the application does.


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Re: Kernel updating : export gpio not working ?

2013-02-27 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Mylene Josserand
mylene.josser...@navocap.com wrote:
 Just to update you that I have found my problem !

 In my config file, I did not notice that my own board and an other imx27
 board was enabled ! So the gpios configured was the one from this board
 and not mine's (thanks debugfs !). That is why it did not act like I wanted.

This is the kind of post that I like most some one has problem but
he/she also still find a way to solve. Then post it back to
kernelnewbies.

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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread sandeep kumar
1. use early_param to get the physical start address and size of
test_region, or you can just ignore this step and hard code to 510M and 2M
for test purpose only.

2. use ioremap_nocache() to map this region to a virtual region. note that
this funtion may fail if you are asking a very large vitual memroy region.

Sounds good, i am gonna try this and let you know.. :)


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM, buyitian bu...@live.cn wrote:

 
  From: bu...@live.cn
  To: coolsandyfor...@gmail.com; kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
  Subject: RE: How to measure the RAM read/write performance
  Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:33:15 +0800
  CC: dhyla...@gmail.com
 
  
   From: coolsandyfor...@gmail.com
   Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:01:54 +0530
   Subject: How to measure the RAM read/write performance
   To: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
   CC: dhyla...@gmail.com
  
   Hi All
   In performance benchmark tools, When we profile read/write timings
   mostly, those read/writes are done to cache only.
  
   I want to measure my DDR(RAM chip) performance.
   So i want to make sure, every read/write should happen to DDR RAM chip
 only.
  
   How can i achieve this...Any ideas/suggestions...?
 
  try to reserve a large region from bootloader(L4 in Qualcomm platform),
 let's say it is 10MB continuous physical memory.

 sorry, to be accurate, reserve physical memory is done by kernel cmdline,
 this cmdline parameter can be passed from L4 to kernel, or configed by
 kernel itself.
 the cmdline will be like below:
 mem=510M@0 test_region=2M@510M

 above example tells kernel you have totally 512MB physical memory, but
 kernel will only use the first 510MB, the latter 2MB memory is used by you.
 how to map and use this region depends on you.

  in kernel, map this region to an continuous virtual region, note that
 the pgprot should be uncachable since you want to test without cache.

 1. use early_param to get the physical start address and size of
 test_region, or you can just ignore this step and hard code to 510M and 2M
 for test purpose only.

 2. use ioremap_nocache() to map this region to a virtual region. note that
 this funtion may fail if you are asking a very large vitual memroy region.

  once you configed like this, you can read/write to this vitual region
 without data cache invovled.
 
  
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Re: How to measure the RAM read/write performance

2013-02-27 Thread sandeep kumar
1. use early_param to get the physical start address and size of
test_region, or you can just ignore this step and hard code to 510M and 2M
for test purpose only.

2. use ioremap_nocache() to map this region to a virtual region. note that
this funtion may fail if you are asking a very large vitual memroy region.
I did the following things,
1) Reserved 3MB memory through ATAGS
2) Wrote small driver to ioremap that memory in following way,

 void *tcpm_base = ioremap_nocache(0x03B0, SZ_3MB);
 27 if(tcpm_base!=NULL)
 28 {
 29 printk(Jiffies %x %ld\n\n\n\n, jiffies, jiffies);
 30 for(i=0;iSZ_4KB;i++)
 31 src = readl(tcpm_base+i);
 32 printk(Jiffies %x %ld\n\n\n\n, jiffies, jiffies);
 33 }
 34 else
 35 printk(unable to map 3MB\n);

3) I am getting the following error,

[1.876647] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
ea82c000
[1.880950] pgd = c0004000
[1.883636] [ea82c000] *pgd=49818811, *pte=, *ppte=
[1.889892] Internal error: Oops: 7 [#1] PREEMPT
[1.894500] Modules linked in:
[1.897521] CPU: 0Not tainted  (3.0.31-g1080f34-dirty #106)
[1.903442] PC is at sand_misc_init+0x4c/0xac
[1.907775] LR is at sand_misc_init+0x3c/0xac
[1.912109] pc : [c0022ee0]lr : [c0022ed0]psr: 8013
[1.912139] sp : e982bf98  ip :   fp : 
[1.923553] r10:   r9 :   r8 : 
[1.928771] r7 :   r6 : c00461b4  r5 : ea828000  r4 : 
[1.935272] r3 : 3fff  r2 : 3ffd  r1 : c07ea2cf  r0 : 0063
[1.941802] Flags: Nzcv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32  ISA ARM  Segment
kernel
[1.949096] Control: 10c57c7d  Table: 00404059  DAC: 0015
[1.954803]
[1.954833] PC: 0xc0022e60:
[1.959075] 2e60  c09105f0 c0366554 c07ea27e c07ea296 e3a01000 e92d4010
e1a02001 eb0a9acd
[1.967224] 2e80  e59f3008 e5830008 e3a1 e8bd8010 c0dd8380 e92d4037
e3a04000 e3a0063b
[1.975402] 2ea0  e3a01901 e1a02004 e5cd4007 e5cd4006 eb00b9aa e2505000
0a19 e59f3070
[1.983551] 2ec0  e59f0070 e5931000 e5932000 eb18a072 e58d4000 e3033fff
ea07 e59d2000
[1.991699] 2ee0  e7952002 f57ff04f e6ef2072 e5cd2007 e59d2000 e2822001
e58d2000 e59d2000
[1.999877] 2f00  e1520003 daf4 e59f3024 e59f0024 e5931000 e5932000
e28dd00c e8bd4030
[2.008026] 2f20  ea18a05d e59f0010 e28dd00c e8bd4030 ea18a059 c08ea600
c07ea2cf c07ea2e2
[2.016174] 2f40  e59f3040 e3a01000 e92d4010 e59f0038 e5932000 eb0a845a
e59f3030 e350
[2.024353]
[2.024353] LR: 0xc0022e50:
[2.028594] 2e50  e3e00015 e8bd81fc c0dd8380 c07ea279 c09105f0 c0366554
c07ea27e c07ea296
[2.036773] 2e70  e3a01000 e92d4010 e1a02001 eb0a9acd e59f3008 e5830008
e3a1 e8bd8010
[2.044921] 2e90  c0dd8380 e92d4037 e3a04000 e3a0063b e3a01901 e1a02004
e5cd4007 e5cd4006
[2.053070] 2eb0  eb00b9aa e2505000 0a19 e59f3070 e59f0070 e5931000
e5932000 eb18a072
[2.061248] 2ed0  e58d4000 e3033fff ea07 e59d2000 e7952002 f57ff04f
e6ef2072 e5cd2007
[2.069396] 2ef0  e59d2000 e2822001 e58d2000 e59d2000 e1520003 daf4
e59f3024 e59f0024
[2.077575] 2f10  e5931000 e5932000 e28dd00c e8bd4030 ea18a05d e59f0010
e28dd00c e8bd4030
[2.085723] 2f30  ea18a059 c08ea600 c07ea2cf c07ea2e2 e59f3040 e3a01000
e92d4010 e59f0038
[2.093872]
[2.093902] SP: 0xe982bf18:
[2.098144] bf18  382e3120 30393536 00205d35 00d0 4fff 3b00
192d8000 ea82bfff
[2.106292] bf38  03b0  e982bf84 c00461b4  c0044dac
0063 c07ea2cf
[2.114440] bf58  3ffd 3fff  ea828000 c00461b4 
 
[2.122619] bf78     e982bf98 c0022ed0 c0022ee0
8013 
[2.130767] bf98  3ffd a27e  c0037b4c c0022e94 c003f3fc
e9814a80 00373231
[2.138946] bfb8     0236 c0037b4c c003818c
c00461b4 0013
[2.147094] bfd8     c0008374  c0008300
c00461b4 c00461b4
[2.155242] bff8     0001  e9817940
c08e8ef4 
[2.163421]
[2.163421] R1: 0xc07ea24f:
[2.167663] a24c  65207265 726f7272 6f6c6220 25206b63 000a646c 706f6f6c
26006425 3e2d6f6c
[2.175842] a26c  635f6f6c 6d5f6c74 78657475 6f6f6c00 363c0070 6f6f6c3e
6d203a70 6c75646f
[2.183990] a28c  6f6c2065 64656461 363c000a 6f6f6c3e 6f203a70 6f207475
656d2066 79726f6d
[2.192138] a2ac  6162000a 6e696b63 69665f67 7300656c 6c657a69 74696d69
74756100 656c636f
[2.200317] a2cc  4a007261 6969 25207365 6c252078 0a0a0a64 6e75000a
656c6261 206f7420
[2.208465] a2ec  2070616d 0a424d33 656d7000 65725f6d 6e6f6967 333c0073
656d703e 7325286d
[2.216613] a30c  736b3a29 635f7465 74616572 6e615f65 64615f64 61662064
000a6c69 703e343c
[2.224792] a32c  3a6d656d 6d6f7320 69687465 6920676e 65762073 77207972
676e6f72 6f79202c
[2.232940] a34c  72612075